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Keeper Timeouts are no more

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  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 19,155
    edited July 28
    At least, it's an attempt to remove another form of gamesmanship. It can be improved and, if nothing else, it makes it clear that it is being noticed rather than turning a blind eye to it, making a situation over which the referee has little or no control.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 28,331
    What about the little hand written instruction notes we have seen players hand around when there's a sub coming on, same thing.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,468
    In the same way that the officials are wired for sound, why not have the captain the manager linked with audio so that our Nathan can pass on his instructions whenever he likes.
  • stevexreeve
    stevexreeve Posts: 1,447
    It will be interesting to see how teams immediately try and think of ways to get around this. The rule about keepers getting rid of the ball quicker was largely ignored after the first few games last season and I imagine it won't be long before teams just realise that a keeper and an outfield player colliding is a potentially fairly broad rule. How's that decided? If you're under the cosh and the keeper goes up for a high ball, and the attacker makes contact who decides whether it qualifies as a collision? Unless that's clear I don't see how the ref wanting to take a player off the pitch so you'll probably still see the keeper ask for the physio there. Fouls are also often given if the keeper gets some contact off a high ball so again that will be used. I imagine there will be some mysterious keeper head injuries as well. I also do wonder if you're getting absolutely hammered and the manager needs to get some information across if teams might think it's worthwhile to tell the keeper to go down, take a striker off for a minute, disrupt the flow of the game and reset the way the team are playing. One minute with 10 men is better than a goal, especially if you can get hold of the ball and waste that minute as much as possible
    Works perfectly! Didn't see a keeper hold on the ball for new than ten seconds last season. Sometimes would be more like 45 seconds the previous season!

  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,710
    It’s a good move to try and stop it. 

    What I don’t get is why referees find penalise the grappling in the penalty box at set pieces when we gave existing rules that allow that. 
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 1,044
    Cheers FA kaminski is crying nice one 
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 2,337
    Going to miss them. Allowed me time to get a beer from the fridge without missing anything important.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 6,560
    Going to miss them. Allowed me time to get a beer from the fridge without missing anything important.
    You’ve still got be remaining 90 minutes in most of our games 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,840
    Going to miss them. Allowed me time to get a beer from the fridge without missing anything important.
    You could always move the fridge?
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 7,612
    fenaddick said:
    Just bring in a rule to ban the players and the coaching staff taking part in a tactical talk when stoppages arise. Players to remain around the centre of the pitch until the match restarts.  
    so much easier than what is being implemented
    It really isn't. It's much easier to keep one player off the pitch than 21 players in a small area where they can still hear the coach anyway
    It really is...

    The plan:-
    If a referee signals that the physio can come on to treat a goalkeeper, the coach will have 10 seconds to nominate another player to leave the pitch for one minute, telling the fourth official of their choice. If no player has been selected within 10 seconds, the captain must leave the field.

    The easier solution:-
    If a referee signals that the physio can come on to treat a goalkeeper, all players except the "injured" player must make their way to the centre of the field. Any coach using this break to shout instructions would receive an immediate red card.

    No counting and no selection criteria (If it's a genuine injury, 10 seconds isn't fair, if it's not genuine, then 10 seconds would suggest premeditation). If that fails, "remove the captain", which is arbitrary and suggests that the captain is the most influential player on the pitch, which is clearly not often the case. 

    The solution is complicated and convoluted, and is still open to abuse (tactically lose a player for a minute), and doesn't resolve the issue of unnecessary tactical breaks in the game.  

    Now I recognise that Howard Webb has defined the solution in conjunction with others - by it's very nature, that process drives compromise by those potentially looking to game the system - and that's the outcome i think we will have.  

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  • jonseventyfive
    jonseventyfive Posts: 3,555
    Good if it works.