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+++ Omonia Nicosia complete Thomas Kaminski loan signing (p34) +++
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Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.5 -
Mannion is definitely not the answer - too error prone. Neither should be No 1.superclive98 said:Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.8 -
Mannion is 28 doubt he’s classified as someone who can develop unlike the whole reason we brought in brooks who is 24.superclive98 said:Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
The Mannion/Kaminski debate is basically deciding what is better out of 2 poor options. We’re basically waiting until Kaminski contract expires or we find someone silly enough to take him off us and then we will upgrade. Don’t feel safe with either in goal4 -
I'm not saying that Mannion is definitely the answer, although, given a proper chance, he might be.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Mannion is definitely not the answer - too error prone. Neither should be No 1.superclive98 said:Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
I am saying though that he is definitely better than Kaminski, who certainly isn't the answer.4 -
Mannion's deal expires next summer, Kaminski the one after. Next season is either a great chance for Brooks to get some game time or to replace Kaminski as No 1Crispywood said:
Mannion is 28 doubt he’s classified as someone who can develop unlike the whole reason we brought in brooks who is 24.superclive98 said:Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
The Mannion/Kaminski debate is basically deciding what is better out of 2 poor options. We’re basically waiting until Kaminski contract expires or we find someone silly enough to take him off us and then we will upgrade. Don’t feel safe with either in goal1 -
Mannion played 9 games last season, errors for the goals at Wednesday and Bristol City and I’d argue a proper championship No.1 could have done better for the Wrexham and Norwich goals although not as clear cut. Costing a goal 1 in every 3 games is abysmal.superclive98 said:
I'm not saying that Mannion is definitely the answer, although, given a proper chance, he might be.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Mannion is definitely not the answer - too error prone. Neither should be No 1.superclive98 said:Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
I am saying though that he is definitely better than Kaminski, who certainly isn't the answer.Kaminski equally has made some howlers but it’s the thing when one drops a stinker it makes the other keeper look so much better than they actually are2 -
He's not "definitely better" he had one great game against Watford and then dropped 2 clangers in a row in a crucial part of the season. They're both not quite good enough in reality, but Kaminski was the number 1 choice at the start of the season when we were a lot better at the back and ended up contributing to many clean sheets. He also gets a slightly unfair rap because he's a high earner for us, though if you took his wage and compared it to the wider championship he's still in the lower half of earners when it comes to keeperssuperclive98 said:Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.6 -
Oh and everyone talks about Mannion like he's some teenage sensation, he's 28, not 22, there isn't a huge amount of growth coming from him as a player0
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He's a 28 year with relatively few games under his belt. He can still improve and given the chance, he will.sam3110 said:Oh and everyone talks about Mannion like he's some teenage sensation, he's 28, not 22, there isn't a huge amount of growth coming from him as a player1 -
He's played over 100 senior games! He definitely can improve but not to the levels some seem to think, he looks pretty close to his ceiling to mesuperclive98 said:
He's a 28 year with relatively few games under his belt. He can still improve and given the chance, he will.sam3110 said:Oh and everyone talks about Mannion like he's some teenage sensation, he's 28, not 22, there isn't a huge amount of growth coming from him as a player2 -
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Good god you're right, I was convinced we'd given Kaminski a two year deal and that we'd let him go next Summer and buy a proper upgrade. That's not ideal.fenaddick said:
Mannion's deal expires next summer, Kaminski the one after. Next season is either a great chance for Brooks to get some game time or to replace Kaminski as No 1Crispywood said:
Mannion is 28 doubt he’s classified as someone who can develop unlike the whole reason we brought in brooks who is 24.superclive98 said:Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
The Mannion/Kaminski debate is basically deciding what is better out of 2 poor options. We’re basically waiting until Kaminski contract expires or we find someone silly enough to take him off us and then we will upgrade. Don’t feel safe with either in goal1 -
His wage is also massively overinflated by our fans. The foreign reporter that broke the story that we were signing him instead of a foreign club said our offer was £12.5k per week, would guess that’s a lot closer to the truth than a lot of the numbers our fans throw aroundsam3110 said:
He's not "definitely better" he had one great game against Watford and then dropped 2 clangers in a row in a crucial part of the season. They're both not quite good enough in reality, but Kaminski was the number 1 choice at the start of the season when we were a lot better at the back and ended up contributing to many clean sheets. He also gets a slightly unfair rap because he's a high earner for us, though if you took his wage and compared it to the wider championship he's still in the lower half of earners when it comes to keeperssuperclive98 said:Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
Neither are good enough but I think Kaminski is the right choice to start the season0 -
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I think Kaminski is better than Mannion, but if someone is seriously interested in taking his salary off our hands then I would be very keen to do it. Hope we have someone lined up to come in though !3
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Agreed on both counts - Kaminski is maybe not the best option, but perhaps the less bad. If we could have another, better option to come in I would happily see either keeper go.se9addick said:I think Kaminski is better than Mannion, but if someone is seriously interested in taking his salary off our hands then I would be very keen to do it. Hope we have someone lined up to come in though !
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Has anyone seen Brooks play? Is there any hope he could potentially be our number 1 or is he just going to be a backup at best?fenaddick said:
Mannion's deal expires next summer, Kaminski the one after. Next season is either a great chance for Brooks to get some game time or to replace Kaminski as No 1Crispywood said:
Mannion is 28 doubt he’s classified as someone who can develop unlike the whole reason we brought in brooks who is 24.superclive98 said:Mannion is definitely better than Kaminski and given the chance, will continue to improve.
Kaminski will only get worse and cost us more goals/games if we stick with him.
The Mannion/Kaminski debate is basically deciding what is better out of 2 poor options. We’re basically waiting until Kaminski contract expires or we find someone silly enough to take him off us and then we will upgrade. Don’t feel safe with either in goal0 -
Please let it be true.guinnessaddick said:3 -
Really bugs me when people say ‘I’d drive him there
myself’
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Just think if this had actually never happened the Rumours thread would be three hundred posts less and actually about rumours.0
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Just caught up with last night’s Charlton Live and the conversation about Kaminski.So from that and reading the interview on Cawley’s Substack with Jones about the Belgian goalkeeper, it appears he wants out which is fine by me, however he’s not going anywhere until we find a better alternative.
Fingers crossed that this is resolved by the start of the September as neither him or Mannion are consistently good enough at this level and that is a concern3 -
So I dont think I am giving too much away in saying that IF he goes we will continue paying a significant amount of his salary, whether that is a lump sum or contributionairy is the questionse9addick said:I think Kaminski is better than Mannion, but if someone is seriously interested in taking his salary off our hands then I would be very keen to do it. Hope we have someone lined up to come in though !0 -
So we are only loaning not selling? Or having to pay up some of his contract to get rid? Not idealRadostanradical said:
So I dont think I am giving too much away in saying that IF he goes we will continue paying a significant amount of his salary, whether that is a lump sum or contributionairy is the questionse9addick said:I think Kaminski is better than Mannion, but if someone is seriously interested in taking his salary off our hands then I would be very keen to do it. Hope we have someone lined up to come in though !0 -
Keeper not really the position you want someone who is uncommitted or in a bad mental place. Can see Mannion starting Saturday if there is truth in this (which there is too much smoke for there not to be)5
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Depends on what “significant” is (and how much he’s really on). If it frees up enough space in the budget to bring someone better in then we should do it. If not, then don’t.Radostanradical said:
So I dont think I am giving too much away in saying that IF he goes we will continue paying a significant amount of his salary, whether that is a lump sum or contributionairy is the questionse9addick said:I think Kaminski is better than Mannion, but if someone is seriously interested in taking his salary off our hands then I would be very keen to do it. Hope we have someone lined up to come in though !
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I'd assume it would be a lump sum to cover some of the difference in wages and then he effectively goes on a free/nominal fee.2
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Even if he is sold we would still pay part of his salary, agree not ideal.Weegie Addick said:
So we are only loaning not selling? Or having to pay up some of his contract to get rid? Not idealRadostanradical said:
So I dont think I am giving too much away in saying that IF he goes we will continue paying a significant amount of his salary, whether that is a lump sum or contributionairy is the questionse9addick said:I think Kaminski is better than Mannion, but if someone is seriously interested in taking his salary off our hands then I would be very keen to do it. Hope we have someone lined up to come in though !0 -
He wants to go, should cover any salary shortfall himself.1
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Shouldn’t exactly be hard. Kaminski doesn’t want to be here fair enough, we don’t want him here fair enough, our budget and finances don’t want him here.shirty5 said:Just caught up with last night’s Charlton Live and the conversation about Kaminski.So from that and reading the interview on Cawley’s Substack with Jones about the Belgian goalkeeper, it appears he wants out which is fine by me, however he’s not going anywhere until we find a better alternative.
Fingers crossed that this is resolved by the start of the September as neither him or Mannion are consistently good enough at this level and that is a concernBest move for all parties to be honest even if we have to subsidise a bit of his wages with the amount he’s on we could still get a better keeper on wages + subsidised wages cheaper than what Kaminski was on0
