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Charlton back up for sale - Guardian article comment from Gavin Carter p18

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  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,488
    NabySarr said:
    Main fear here is that they are going to want their money back so that’s setting the asking price already of at least £65m, and they probably want to make a profit so add some more on top of that. 

    Will someone come in for us at that kind of price? I know there’s a lot of American interest in investing in football but it feels a bit far fetched to me that they’ll be able to get that price 
    Hopefully they will be asking enough to scare off the Laurence Bassini's / Mouthall's / Dentist's of this world.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 21,112
    I know there are mentions of this document being leaked and that article states it has been seen by the Guardian…. but has anybody here seen it and is there anywhere we can see it? 
    Give it time and I'm sure it'll appear
  • NorthStandUltra
    NorthStandUltra Posts: 2,604
    I don’t understand why we’re not seen as an attractive investment opportunity, London club, decent facilities & fan base - any other clubs get all kinds of suitors, not us though - look at Amanda Staveley, could probably get us a lot cheaper than investing into West Ham. 

    Probably answering my own question but I guess the Roland Duchatelet puppet hanging over The Valley & Training Ground puts people off - what was it £50m to buy both back & then the same again to buy the club & that’s before investment in the squad and people. 
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 15,024
    As some are saying, it explains the summer window. But also makes NJ's "kept our powder dry" comment interesting. Who knew what and when and all that? We have about 4 weeks to find out if that's true, or if this summer was always going to be done on the cheap. I think these owners know enough to know that we need to be in the Championship for them to get their money back. But will they invest more money into something they're going to sell? I really don't know that they would.

    It's just all very depressing.

    Let's also be honest that the root cause of this is, at least in part, the fact that all clubs outside of the Prem lose money. And even in the Prem, they sometimes lose money (as we did which is part of what sent us on this spiral). We're always going to be at the whims of rich people until things on that front change. I don't have a good way of changing them, as I don't want to suppress player wages and I don't want to increase things like ticket prices, but I also don't know how to make the maths add up. 
  • CAFC_Norfolk
    CAFC_Norfolk Posts: 364
    I’m sure we are all hoping our next owner is another fan of Range Rovers and “Bitches”
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 39,193
    WSS said:
    Roland has just been woken up from his cryogenic chamber to begin new and unreasonable rent negotiations.

  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,413
    panther10 said:
    Can see a few players wanting out after this news 
    Might not be news to them. Would make sense why Jones, Ramsay & TC have been stalling on signing new deals.

    And I hate to say so......but I did say a few weeks back that actions need to follow words in terms of signings. And why we have signed a few "freebies" and not bought the desperately needed midfielder.

    But.   We're not in dire straits & not going to go bust. But I think the plug has been pulled on any major signings. 


  • UTA95
    UTA95 Posts: 7
    I did wonder why there wasn’t any press allowed at The Valley for the Reading game 

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 21,112
    I don’t understand why we’re not seen as an attractive investment opportunity, London club, decent facilities & fan base - any other clubs get all kinds of suitors, not us though - look at Amanda Staveley, could probably get us a lot cheaper than investing into West Ham. 

    Probably answering my own question but I guess the Roland Duchatelet puppet hanging over The Valley & Training Ground puts people off - what was it £50m to buy both back & then the same again to buy the club & that’s before investment in the squad and people. 
    We're too much in a middle ground. We aren't a massive club like Newcastle and we aren't a small one like Brighton, Brentford & Bournemouth were. Our running costs are too high to overhaul something straight away but our commercial deals aren't enough to make us a draw. We're stuck in no mans land
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,836
    Could be good news if the owners pockets aren’t deep enough.

    Or could be totally destabilising ie player contracts not getting renewed, the timing is awful.
    I've said it before, the owners pockets are deep but their arms are very short. FFS lack of investment in the team this summer puts us in a poor situation, if we get off to a poor start who's going to want to cough up & buy a club hurtling back to Division Three.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,230
    fenaddick said:
    Has Chuks Aneke got enough rental properties to launch a bid?

    What if we all pay for the substack? If Cawley owned us he’d be really ITK 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 21,112
    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    Has Chuks Aneke got enough rental properties to launch a bid?

    What if we all pay for the substack? If Cawley owned us he’d be really ITK 
    Tell you what, I'll monetise my substack as a tester. Any money will go on a takeover bid, honest
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,581
    Wonder if we should let Richard Rufus have a go as CFO.?
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 7,762
    panther10 said:
    Can see a few players wanting out after this news 
    None of the players support Charlton. This news won't affect them getting paid their salary, I highly doubt if any of them care at all.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,836
    jondon76 said:
    If they're selling there's no way they can afford for us to go down this season.
    Well they should have invested a little more in player recruitment.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 21,112
    panther10 said:
    Can see a few players wanting out after this news 
    None of the players support Charlton. This news won't affect them getting paid their salary, I highly doubt if any of them care at all.
    There was one player who was as close to a Charlton fan as we're likely to get but he plays for Blackpool now

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  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,802
    Leuth said:
    Can Tanto Olaofe be converted to a central midfielder? 
    After tonight’s news I’m fully expecting that Right Winger to be announced as Aiden McGeady 
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,488
    Somewhere there’s a man ironing a pair of salmon trousers
    Or possibly his butler is doing it for him.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 10,554
    fenaddick said:
    I don’t understand why we’re not seen as an attractive investment opportunity, London club, decent facilities & fan base - any other clubs get all kinds of suitors, not us though - look at Amanda Staveley, could probably get us a lot cheaper than investing into West Ham. 

    Probably answering my own question but I guess the Roland Duchatelet puppet hanging over The Valley & Training Ground puts people off - what was it £50m to buy both back & then the same again to buy the club & that’s before investment in the squad and people. 
    We're too much in a middle ground. We aren't a massive club like Newcastle and we aren't a small one like Brighton, Brentford & Bournemouth were. Our running costs are too high to overhaul something straight away but our commercial deals aren't enough to make us a draw. We're stuck in no mans land
    This is a really good point. We're in a really weird position where we're probably too expensive for an MCO/Network type bid with someone that owns other clubs in Europe but the big bucks sovereign wealth funds and NFL owners wouldn't deem us worth a look. 
  • 21cws
    21cws Posts: 240
    Anyone know Elon Musk? 
  • Bunk
    Bunk Posts: 17
    Time to call up Infantino he knows some people with a lot of cash…..
  • We would be worth next to fuck all if we got relegated. I'm pretty sure the owners know that too so I think they'll do what they can to keep us up.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 59,092
    The only “event” here is the leaking of a document. There hasn’t been a new decision to sell.


    Did you leak it ? If not who ? 
    If I’d had it I would certainly have published it myself. I didn’t but the fact that they were approaching people to try to sell the club isn’t new. 
    So why has it been leaked now?
    Depends who it was leaked by. Sometimes things get leaked deliberately to get things out there. 

    Sometimes though it isn’t deliberate. Football clubs are not normal businesses, there’s an emotive and supporter element involved. 

    When these financial ad packs get circulated to banks, investment groups etc it’s not unusual there ends up being a fan connection in receipt, or someone who knows a fan who’d be interested. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,971
    cabbles said:
    Leuth said:
    Can Tanto Olaofe be converted to a central midfielder? 
    After tonight’s news I’m fully expecting that Right Winger to be announced as Aiden McGeady 
    Aiden McGeady and David Davis. Deadline day double swoop.
  • jams
    jams Posts: 1,257