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What’s happened to Harvey Knibbs?

BerkshireBob
BerkshireBob Posts: 107
in General Charlton

Remember the excitement of that winning goal in injury time in our first game back in the Championship last season? The photograph of an ecstatic Covered End with the goal scorer standing on the wall, arms outstretched? What we would give for something similar this Saturday. But what about the player who scored the goal? He’d be happy just to be playing. What has happened to Harvey Knibbs? He joined us with the reputation of a goal scoring attacking midfield player - exactly the type that we need. Surely the pre-season would have been the ideal time to give him another go? Has he fallen out with Jones? Is he not rated? Is he seen as a League One player who is not Championship material? He is often named on the bench but seldom called upon and now seems to have been relegated behind some promising younger players and newbies - yet he’s still on the books. What’s going on?

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  • Desmond Oulu
    Desmond Oulu Posts: 59
    He's the outfield player with the highest number of minutes this preseason.
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 1,013
    He’s gotten loads of minutes in pre season and got rave reviews, including from Nathan Jones, to the point where it was a surprise to see Carey start in front of him on Saturday. 
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 11,591
    I suspect we are currently caught between the two ‘needs’, that of needing to manage his minutes without injuring him and needing what little match time for those players who potentially will be ready to start on Saturday. 
  • Arry Addick
    Arry Addick Posts: 1,224
    Knibbs & Carey are vying for the same (no.10 - AMC) position.
    Knibbs came to us late last season and without a pre-season IIRC.
    The opening day late winner against Watford was a great moment, but Knibbs wasn't fit enough to start.
    Carey got off to a flier with his goals & early season excellent link-up play with Apter....Blackpool connection was very noticeable.
    Then Knibbs got injured and Carey went from strength to strength.

    This season, I'm expecting more of a battle as @Desmond Oulu said, Knibbs has had the most pre-season friendly minutes.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,748
    He played more than Carey in pre season . He’s never going to start ahead of Sonny v Derby hence why we didn’t see he Saturday. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,427
    Bedsaddick said:
    He played more than Carey in pre season . He’s never going to start ahead of Sonny v Derby hence why we didn’t see he Saturday. 
    I think he might have started, but Carey needed the minutes on Saturday and now he’s played well and scored he will probably start against Derby. Before that I think Knibbs would have started 
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 59,223
    So want him to do well. Seems a likeable character.

    Sadly the highlight so far has been singing his name for 10 minutes at Bristol City
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 73,107
    NabySarr said:
    Bedsaddick said:
    He played more than Carey in pre season . He’s never going to start ahead of Sonny v Derby hence why we didn’t see he Saturday. 
    I think he might have started, but Carey needed the minutes on Saturday and now he’s played well and scored he will probably start against Derby. Before that I think Knibbs would have started 
    Yes, Knibbs has been a bit unlucky really. Carey played as he needed the minutes, did well and now probably owns the shirt. And with no midweek games for a while, Knibbs might struggle to get a start.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 28,704
    He got injured early on last season didn't he. Hopefully he can show us what all the excitement was about last summer this year.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 87,012
    Met Knibbs over the summer with two other first teamers.

    It was notable that he went around the group and shock hands with everyone while introducing himself.

    As said, he's now fit and Carey has some competition which is good for Sonny and the club.

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  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 2,270
    It’ll be interesting to see how it works going forward, Sonny has to start, top scorer last season and already off the mark with a goal and assist. 

    It will provide sonny a break when he needs it as towards the end of last season he did become slightly ineffective 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,470
    What a strange old opening post. Almost like someone has an angle/agenda they're trying to push. 

    No idea what it is though.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 6,671
    Knibbs for me has been the standout player pre season. I thought he would start for sure at the weekend but I guess Carey needed minutes. After the goal I suspect Carey will start on Saturday but if so Knibbs can consider himself very unlucky
  • SteveACS
    SteveACS Posts: 723
    Off_it said:
    What a strange old opening post. Almost like someone has an angle/agenda they're trying to push. 

    No idea what it is though.
    Of someone looking for a stick to beat the club with? Testing the waters before going postal? There seems to be enough on here with that agenda...
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,870
    NJ did him dirty last season. Knibbs was second top scorer in the squad, and yet when Carey wasn't playing, NJ opted to start Luke Berry for three games in a row. I don't think Harvey ever got the same opportunity.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,540
    Last season he was a bit anonymous during games. He looked better in pre-season.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 101,130
    Chunes said:
    NJ did him dirty last season. Knibbs was second top scorer in the squad, and yet when Carey wasn't playing, NJ opted to start Luke Berry for three games in a row. I don't think Harvey ever got the same opportunity.
    Didn't help that Harvey joined under a cloud with the injury, didn't the deal fail at one point because something came up in the Medical... He didn't get a proper pre-season with us, and just didn't look fit when he made any appearances.

    When he finally started to settle, that Sheff Utd prick injured him
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 73,107
    That's 3 games now where Knibbs has failed to get a single minute, despite us making plenty of subs. He can't be happy. 
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 11,589
    killerandflash said:
    That's 3 games now where Knibbs has failed to get a single minute, despite us making plenty of subs. He can't be happy. 
    Long season - he will get his chance and I’m sure of it. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,427
    killerandflash said:
    That's 3 games now where Knibbs has failed to get a single minute, despite us making plenty of subs. He can't be happy. 
    If the game state means we are going for a goal then he will be the sub that comes on for Carey. But that hasn’t really happened yet so we’ve brought Costello/Mwamba on instead

    I thought we could have done with more legs in midfield so would have brought him on today, but we won so Jones decision worked fine 

    He will start on Wednesday, and if he plays well he might even be able to force himself into the conversation to start over Carey 

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,654
    Spurs on Wed night. I expect to see a few changes with Knibbs being one of them. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 73,107
    NabySarr said:
    killerandflash said:
    That's 3 games now where Knibbs has failed to get a single minute, despite us making plenty of subs. He can't be happy. 
    If the game state means we are going for a goal then he will be the sub that comes on for Carey. But that hasn’t really happened yet so we’ve brought Costello/Mwamba on instead

    I thought we could have done with more legs in midfield so would have brought him on today, but we won so Jones decision worked fine 

    He will start on Wednesday, and if he plays well he might even be able to force himself into the conversation to start over Carey 
    He could have come on instead of Mbick, and instead of Costello today. 

    Last week when Carey came off, we were 1-0 down, but instead Alli came on and Karlan moved to the 10 position.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,580
    killerandflash said:
    That's 3 games now where Knibbs has failed to get a single minute, despite us making plenty of subs. He can't be happy. 
    He'll get a start ahead of Carey soon enough
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,570
    He should be ahead of Carey at the moment 
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 6,090
    killerandflash said:
    That's 3 games now where Knibbs has failed to get a single minute, despite us making plenty of subs. He can't be happy. 
    His celebrations at the end of both games show what a classy pro he is. I think/hope he feels his time will come. I definitely wouldn’t let him go. 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,656
    Just game circumstances at the moment, he will get his chance.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 16,560
    I think he’ll play Wednesday 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,870
    edited August 22
    killerandflash said:
    That's 3 games now where Knibbs has failed to get a single minute, despite us making plenty of subs. He can't be happy. 
    Probably not but he did look really happy in the final whistle scenes with TC.
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 6,090
    Elthamaddick said:
    I think he’ll play Wednesday 
    Yeah I reckon 4/5 changes and Knibbs will be one
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,775
    RonnieMoore said:
    He should be ahead of Carey at the moment 
    Why? I dont think knibbs is as good as carey enough to get into the same positions at this level. Carey can bring the ball up the pitch, just needs to improve decision making. Hence probably why jones picks him above knibbs. 

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