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Tottingham Hotspurs v Charlton Athletic (allocation 5,744 - SOLD OUT)

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  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 896
    i have emailed Valley gold and raised the points 

    2 tickets per person ( members not on same points etc ) - no other club does this for higher appetite games, should be 1 per member.  
    a £120.00 a year scheme which is primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme, and the spurs fixtures adding a further 2 phases above valley gold for this fixture - does not feel fair. 

    i don't have a st but have had valley gold for 6 years, games attended last season 

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    southampton 
    portsmouth 
    coventry 

    Valley Gold is unfair when it's phase is too high, now it's unfair because it's phase is too low.

    I think the club should come up with a priority system that benefits absolutely everyone regardless of their points, VG etc, shouldn't be too difficult. 
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,496
    se9addick said:
    i have emailed Valley gold and raised the points 

    2 tickets per person ( members not on same points etc ) - no other club does this for higher appetite games, should be 1 per member.  
    a £120.00 a year scheme which is primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme, and the spurs fixtures adding a further 2 phases above valley gold for this fixture - does not feel fair. 

    i don't have a st but have had valley gold for 6 years, games attended last season 

    Home 
    Hull 
    ipswich 
    bristol city
    norwich 
    wrexham
    millwall 
    leicester 
    chelsea ( cup ) 

    away 
    watford 
    west brom 
    millwall
    leicester 
    qpr
    southampton 
    portsmouth 
    coventry 

    Why are you emailing Valley Gold about this?
    well as a vg member one of the perks is " away ticket priority " given the above phases isnt much priority. thought the above was pretty self explanatory 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,815
    MrOneLung said:
    fenaddick said:
    Croydon said:
    shirty5 said:
    still 2 each which is annoying. 
    That won’t change anytime soon 
    It really should.

    Its absurd that some supporters who do a lot of games lose out because someone wants to take his mate/wife/fan of some other club who hasn't been to a charlton game before.
    Does anyone who does 'a lot of games' ever miss out?
    They only would if the club suddenly switched to 1 ticket and they haven't had their points allocated for being someone's "extra" tickets. Otherwise it's a pretty fair system, I don't get the chance to go to many games so I can't expect to get tickets for the high demand ones
    Down to them to get their points allocated though.
    Well not fully. If someone buys me a ticket in a phase I'm not eligible for I don't think the ticket office will allocate me the points. I could be wrong though
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,685
    still 2 each which is annoying. 


    correct me if im wrong but a fan that has 570 points and vg can get 2 tickets and the other recipient can hypothetically be a 1 game a season type fan. a lot of other clubs are per member not 2 at a time. 

    Had this argument in the past and got shot down. Had lots of people ask me to get them  ticket who only go on play off finals day.  Others will get for mates who don't go very often as will happe this weekend. 
  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 896
    se9addick said:
    i have emailed Valley gold and raised the points 

    2 tickets per person ( members not on same points etc ) - no other club does this for higher appetite games, should be 1 per member.  
    a £120.00 a year scheme which is primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme, and the spurs fixtures adding a further 2 phases above valley gold for this fixture - does not feel fair. 

    i don't have a st but have had valley gold for 6 years, games attended last season 

    Home 
    Hull 
    ipswich 
    bristol city
    norwich 
    wrexham
    millwall 
    leicester 
    chelsea ( cup ) 

    away 
    watford 
    west brom 
    millwall
    leicester 
    qpr
    southampton 
    portsmouth 
    coventry 

    Why are you emailing Valley Gold about this?
    well as a vg member one of the perks is " away ticket priority " given the above phases isnt much priority. thought the above was pretty self explanatory 
    It puts you above 3 phases of people that have more loyalty points than you. 
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,496
    edited August 17
    still 2 each which is annoying. 


    correct me if im wrong but a fan that has 570 points and vg can get 2 tickets and the other recipient can hypothetically be a 1 game a season type fan. a lot of other clubs are per member not 2 at a time. 

    Had this argument in the past and got shot down. Had lots of people ask me to get them  ticket who only go on play off finals day.  Others will get for mates who don't go very often as will happe this weekend. 
    bang on know 2 west ham fans going with there charlton mates. in the away end 
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,496
    Belv said:
    se9addick said:
    i have emailed Valley gold and raised the points 

    2 tickets per person ( members not on same points etc ) - no other club does this for higher appetite games, should be 1 per member.  
    a £120.00 a year scheme which is primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme, and the spurs fixtures adding a further 2 phases above valley gold for this fixture - does not feel fair. 

    i don't have a st but have had valley gold for 6 years, games attended last season 

    Home 
    Hull 
    ipswich 
    bristol city
    norwich 
    wrexham
    millwall 
    leicester 
    chelsea ( cup ) 

    away 
    watford 
    west brom 
    millwall
    leicester 
    qpr
    southampton 
    portsmouth 
    coventry 

    Why are you emailing Valley Gold about this?
    well as a vg member one of the perks is " away ticket priority " given the above phases isnt much priority. thought the above was pretty self explanatory 
    It puts you above 3 phases of people that have more loyalty points than you. 
    loyalty points are from attending games - you are paying to view a match not get priority tickets. 

    advantages of valley gold are marketed as away game priority and you pay £120 for the scheme. 

    my main gripe is the 2 per person, should apply if buying an under 18s ticket only, that sorts the people buying them for there kids argument which i think is bs 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 73,264
    A surprisingly low starting level 590. Starting at such a low number, it seems a bit silly to have the separate VG phases in the early phases.

    It obviously makes no difference, but it seems wrong that someone who's been to just about every game home and away and has 750 points is below someone with 590 + VG.
  • Seems a bit silly to start a whole new thread, so I'll just ask here.  Does buying more than one ticket not get you both sets of points?  I looked at my account and thought it looked short.  Was about to email the ticket office and realised that's what it was.These are for tickets which I did not allocate to another account by the way, they were only added to mine.
  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 896
    edited August 17
    Belv said:
    se9addick said:
    i have emailed Valley gold and raised the points 

    2 tickets per person ( members not on same points etc ) - no other club does this for higher appetite games, should be 1 per member.  
    a £120.00 a year scheme which is primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme, and the spurs fixtures adding a further 2 phases above valley gold for this fixture - does not feel fair. 

    i don't have a st but have had valley gold for 6 years, games attended last season 

    Home 
    Hull 
    ipswich 
    bristol city
    norwich 
    wrexham
    millwall 
    leicester 
    chelsea ( cup ) 

    away 
    watford 
    west brom 
    millwall
    leicester 
    qpr
    southampton 
    portsmouth 
    coventry 

    Why are you emailing Valley Gold about this?
    well as a vg member one of the perks is " away ticket priority " given the above phases isnt much priority. thought the above was pretty self explanatory 
    It puts you above 3 phases of people that have more loyalty points than you. 
    loyalty points are from attending games - you are paying to view a match not get priority tickets. 

    advantages of valley gold are marketed as away game priority and you pay £120 for the scheme. 

    my main gripe is the 2 per person, should apply if buying an under 18s ticket only, that sorts the people buying them for there kids argument which i think is bs 
    You are getting priority, you're getting priority over groups of people who have attended more games and have more points.

    I'm in phase 1 because I've got VG, I'm getting priority over those in phase 2 because of VG, there may be people in phase 2 that have more points than me. 


    Yes, loyalty points are for attending games, the more you attend, the more you accrue and the more priority you have which is the entire point of the system. 

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  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,496
    remove away ticket priority from valley gold and you would see a massive down turn in renewals. 
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,496
    Belv said:
    Belv said:
    se9addick said:
    i have emailed Valley gold and raised the points 

    2 tickets per person ( members not on same points etc ) - no other club does this for higher appetite games, should be 1 per member.  
    a £120.00 a year scheme which is primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme, and the spurs fixtures adding a further 2 phases above valley gold for this fixture - does not feel fair. 

    i don't have a st but have had valley gold for 6 years, games attended last season 

    Home 
    Hull 
    ipswich 
    bristol city
    norwich 
    wrexham
    millwall 
    leicester 
    chelsea ( cup ) 

    away 
    watford 
    west brom 
    millwall
    leicester 
    qpr
    southampton 
    portsmouth 
    coventry 

    Why are you emailing Valley Gold about this?
    well as a vg member one of the perks is " away ticket priority " given the above phases isnt much priority. thought the above was pretty self explanatory 
    It puts you above 3 phases of people that have more loyalty points than you. 
    loyalty points are from attending games - you are paying to view a match not get priority tickets. 

    advantages of valley gold are marketed as away game priority and you pay £120 for the scheme. 

    my main gripe is the 2 per person, should apply if buying an under 18s ticket only, that sorts the people buying them for there kids argument which i think is bs 
    You are getting priority, you're getting priority over groups of people who have attended more games and have more points.

    I'm in phase 1 because I've got VG, I'm getting priority over those in phase 2 because of VG.


    Yes, loyalty points are for attending games, the more you attend, the more you accrue and the more priority you have which is the entire point of the system. 
    but then someones mate who is on more points than me, gets a ticket on 0 points. 

  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 33,381
    edited August 17
    Seems a bit silly to start a whole new thread, so I'll just ask here.  Does buying more than one ticket not get you both sets of points?  I looked at my account and thought it looked short.  Was about to email the ticket office and realised that's what it was.These are for tickets which I did not allocate to another account by the way, they were only added to mine.
    No - you only get the points for one ticket regardless of how many you buy. If you assign the other ticket(s) to other fans they’ll get points for their assigned ticket. 
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,556
    i have emailed Valley gold and raised the points 

    2 tickets per person ( members not on same points etc ) - no other club does this for higher appetite games, should be 1 per member.  
    a £120.00 a year scheme which is primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme, and the spurs fixtures adding a further 2 phases above valley gold for this fixture - does not feel fair. 

    i don't have a st but have had valley gold for 6 years, games attended last season 

    Home 
    Hull 
    ipswich 
    bristol city
    norwich 
    wrexham
    millwall 
    leicester 
    chelsea ( cup ) 

    away 
    watford 
    west brom 
    millwall
    leicester 
    qpr
    southampton 
    portsmouth 
    coventry 

    Valley Gold is not primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme.
  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 896
    Belv said:
    Belv said:
    se9addick said:
    i have emailed Valley gold and raised the points 

    2 tickets per person ( members not on same points etc ) - no other club does this for higher appetite games, should be 1 per member.  
    a £120.00 a year scheme which is primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme, and the spurs fixtures adding a further 2 phases above valley gold for this fixture - does not feel fair. 

    i don't have a st but have had valley gold for 6 years, games attended last season 

    Home 
    Hull 
    ipswich 
    bristol city
    norwich 
    wrexham
    millwall 
    leicester 
    chelsea ( cup ) 

    away 
    watford 
    west brom 
    millwall
    leicester 
    qpr
    southampton 
    portsmouth 
    coventry 

    Why are you emailing Valley Gold about this?
    well as a vg member one of the perks is " away ticket priority " given the above phases isnt much priority. thought the above was pretty self explanatory 
    It puts you above 3 phases of people that have more loyalty points than you. 
    loyalty points are from attending games - you are paying to view a match not get priority tickets. 

    advantages of valley gold are marketed as away game priority and you pay £120 for the scheme. 

    my main gripe is the 2 per person, should apply if buying an under 18s ticket only, that sorts the people buying them for there kids argument which i think is bs 
    You are getting priority, you're getting priority over groups of people who have attended more games and have more points.

    I'm in phase 1 because I've got VG, I'm getting priority over those in phase 2 because of VG.


    Yes, loyalty points are for attending games, the more you attend, the more you accrue and the more priority you have which is the entire point of the system. 
    but then someones mate who is on more points than me, gets a ticket on 0 points. 

    That's just purely hypothetical though, you've just created this scenario in your mind.

    I don't doubt it happens to some extent but I can't imagine many of the "second tickets" go to to non-Charlton supporters or people on 0 points. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,815
    Belv said:
    Belv said:
    se9addick said:
    i have emailed Valley gold and raised the points 

    2 tickets per person ( members not on same points etc ) - no other club does this for higher appetite games, should be 1 per member.  
    a £120.00 a year scheme which is primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme, and the spurs fixtures adding a further 2 phases above valley gold for this fixture - does not feel fair. 

    i don't have a st but have had valley gold for 6 years, games attended last season 

    Home 
    Hull 
    ipswich 
    bristol city
    norwich 
    wrexham
    millwall 
    leicester 
    chelsea ( cup ) 

    away 
    watford 
    west brom 
    millwall
    leicester 
    qpr
    southampton 
    portsmouth 
    coventry 

    Why are you emailing Valley Gold about this?
    well as a vg member one of the perks is " away ticket priority " given the above phases isnt much priority. thought the above was pretty self explanatory 
    It puts you above 3 phases of people that have more loyalty points than you. 
    loyalty points are from attending games - you are paying to view a match not get priority tickets. 

    advantages of valley gold are marketed as away game priority and you pay £120 for the scheme. 

    my main gripe is the 2 per person, should apply if buying an under 18s ticket only, that sorts the people buying them for there kids argument which i think is bs 
    You are getting priority, you're getting priority over groups of people who have attended more games and have more points.

    I'm in phase 1 because I've got VG, I'm getting priority over those in phase 2 because of VG.


    Yes, loyalty points are for attending games, the more you attend, the more you accrue and the more priority you have which is the entire point of the system. 
    but then someones mate who is on more points than me, gets a ticket on 0 points. 

    That still isn’t VG’s fault though. Your issue is with the club, you’d be better off emailing them 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 73,264
    It would be easier if VG just gave you a set number of points every season, 20, 50 or whatever, a number agreed with the Fan Groups. That would eliminate many of the phases, and give a defined benefit for VG, rather than the ticket office having to make a decision every game.

    This would have to be agreed before the end of this season for next season, to give people time to make the decision whether to purchase VG or not.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,496
    i have emailed Valley gold and raised the points 

    2 tickets per person ( members not on same points etc ) - no other club does this for higher appetite games, should be 1 per member.  
    a £120.00 a year scheme which is primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme, and the spurs fixtures adding a further 2 phases above valley gold for this fixture - does not feel fair. 

    i don't have a st but have had valley gold for 6 years, games attended last season 

    Home 
    Hull 
    ipswich 
    bristol city
    norwich 
    wrexham
    millwall 
    leicester 
    chelsea ( cup ) 

    away 
    watford 
    west brom 
    millwall
    leicester 
    qpr
    southampton 
    portsmouth 
    coventry 

    Valley Gold is not primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme.
    source https://www.valleygold.org.uk/why-join-valley-gold/

    Membership benefits

    As a Valley Gold member, you’ll enjoy unique perks such as a season ticket rebate, discounts in the club superstore, greater ticket priority, access to CAFC Academy matches, and special offers that enhance your fan experience.

  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,496
    fenaddick said:
    Belv said:
    Belv said:
    se9addick said:
    i have emailed Valley gold and raised the points 

    2 tickets per person ( members not on same points etc ) - no other club does this for higher appetite games, should be 1 per member.  
    a £120.00 a year scheme which is primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme, and the spurs fixtures adding a further 2 phases above valley gold for this fixture - does not feel fair. 

    i don't have a st but have had valley gold for 6 years, games attended last season 

    Home 
    Hull 
    ipswich 
    bristol city
    norwich 
    wrexham
    millwall 
    leicester 
    chelsea ( cup ) 

    away 
    watford 
    west brom 
    millwall
    leicester 
    qpr
    southampton 
    portsmouth 
    coventry 

    Why are you emailing Valley Gold about this?
    well as a vg member one of the perks is " away ticket priority " given the above phases isnt much priority. thought the above was pretty self explanatory 
    It puts you above 3 phases of people that have more loyalty points than you. 
    loyalty points are from attending games - you are paying to view a match not get priority tickets. 

    advantages of valley gold are marketed as away game priority and you pay £120 for the scheme. 

    my main gripe is the 2 per person, should apply if buying an under 18s ticket only, that sorts the people buying them for there kids argument which i think is bs 
    You are getting priority, you're getting priority over groups of people who have attended more games and have more points.

    I'm in phase 1 because I've got VG, I'm getting priority over those in phase 2 because of VG.


    Yes, loyalty points are for attending games, the more you attend, the more you accrue and the more priority you have which is the entire point of the system. 
    but then someones mate who is on more points than me, gets a ticket on 0 points. 

    That still isn’t VG’s fault though. Your issue is with the club, you’d be better off emailing them 
    a scheme that brings in £132k per year is probably going to have more clout than me.... 
  • I'm a lapsed season ticket holder whose only game in the last few seasons has been the Play-Off final, however I've kept my Valley Gold. I think it's mad that I've got more priority than someone who may be going to games fairly regularly. To my mind VG on its own should count for very little if you're not also attending.

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  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 896
    edited August 17
    i have emailed Valley gold and raised the points 

    2 tickets per person ( members not on same points etc ) - no other club does this for higher appetite games, should be 1 per member.  
    a £120.00 a year scheme which is primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme, and the spurs fixtures adding a further 2 phases above valley gold for this fixture - does not feel fair. 

    i don't have a st but have had valley gold for 6 years, games attended last season 

    Home 
    Hull 
    ipswich 
    bristol city
    norwich 
    wrexham
    millwall 
    leicester 
    chelsea ( cup ) 

    away 
    watford 
    west brom 
    millwall
    leicester 
    qpr
    southampton 
    portsmouth 
    coventry 

    Valley Gold is not primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme.
    source https://www.valleygold.org.uk/why-join-valley-gold/

    Membership benefits

    As a Valley Gold member, you’ll enjoy unique perks such as a season ticket rebate, discounts in the club superstore, greater ticket priority, access to CAFC Academy matches, and special offers that enhance your fan experience.

    "Greater ticket priority" (Not primarily as you suggested) 

    As already said, that is what you have.  Phases 1, 3 and 5 also have greater ticket priority because of being Valley Gold members. 
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,556
    i have emailed Valley gold and raised the points 

    2 tickets per person ( members not on same points etc ) - no other club does this for higher appetite games, should be 1 per member.  
    a £120.00 a year scheme which is primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme, and the spurs fixtures adding a further 2 phases above valley gold for this fixture - does not feel fair. 

    i don't have a st but have had valley gold for 6 years, games attended last season 

    Home 
    Hull 
    ipswich 
    bristol city
    norwich 
    wrexham
    millwall 
    leicester 
    chelsea ( cup ) 

    away 
    watford 
    west brom 
    millwall
    leicester 
    qpr
    southampton 
    portsmouth 
    coventry 

    Valley Gold is not primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme.
    source https://www.valleygold.org.uk/why-join-valley-gold/

    Membership benefits

    As a Valley Gold member, you’ll enjoy unique perks such as a season ticket rebate, discounts in the club superstore, greater ticket priority, access to CAFC Academy matches, and special offers that enhance your fan experience.

    Like I said, not primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 9,131
    in phase 8 - what are the chances there'll be any left by then ?? seems a bit touch and go particularly given the 2 each thing??  
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 59,324
    i have emailed Valley gold and raised the points 

    2 tickets per person ( members not on same points etc ) - no other club does this for higher appetite games, should be 1 per member.  
    a £120.00 a year scheme which is primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme, and the spurs fixtures adding a further 2 phases above valley gold for this fixture - does not feel fair. 

    i don't have a st but have had valley gold for 6 years, games attended last season 

    Home 
    Hull 
    ipswich 
    bristol city
    norwich 
    wrexham
    millwall 
    leicester 
    chelsea ( cup ) 

    away 
    watford 
    west brom 
    millwall
    leicester 
    qpr
    southampton 
    portsmouth 
    coventry 

    Valley Gold is not primarily sold as an away ticket priority scheme.
    source https://www.valleygold.org.uk/why-join-valley-gold/

    Membership benefits

    As a Valley Gold member, you’ll enjoy unique perks such as a season ticket rebate, discounts in the club superstore, greater ticket priority, access to CAFC Academy matches, and special offers that enhance your fan experience.

    You do get greater ticket priority through the scheme though. 

    You get priority over those with the same number of points, and in this instance priority over everyone with 535 points or less
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,496
    OK staunch defenders of the scheme defend the 2 tickets per person?. 

    this is literally the only forum of a club where you arent allowed to have an opinion without some pompous reply. 
  • OhMyGodden
    OhMyGodden Posts: 471
    OK staunch defenders of the scheme defend the 2 tickets per person?. 

    this is literally the only forum of a club where you arent allowed to have an opinion without some pompous reply. 
    Need to get some friends who can get you one then 
  • se9addick said:
    Seems a bit silly to start a whole new thread, so I'll just ask here.  Does buying more than one ticket not get you both sets of points?  I looked at my account and thought it looked short.  Was about to email the ticket office and realised that's what it was.These are for tickets which I did not allocate to another account by the way, they were only added to mine.
    No - you only get the points for one ticket regardless of how many you buy. If you assign the other ticket(s) to other fans they’ll get points for their assigned ticket. 
    Fair enough then.  I do usually assign the other U21 ticket to AA Jr but sometimes forget, and had a few friends along to the Leicester game last year too so thought it might bump us up the list a bit.  Ah well.  

    We keep looking to get to some away games while he's away at Uni in the west country (Cardiff, Bristol) and we usually make the south coast games.  Typically this year it looks like all the matches over that end are while he's back here!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 53,256
    The away ticket allocation rules have been in place for longer than I can remember, perhaps 20 years or 30 years?

    Each season when we get an attractive away game there are people that complain they can't get a ticket.

    If you buy enough tickets for enough games (having read the rules), you will guarantee yourself a ticket for the "big" away games, it's that simple.
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 4,048
    JohnBoyUK said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    Any idea when spurs tickets are out? 
    just bought my one!  available to ST holders & ST waiting list members.  Opens up to rest of members tomorrow for 48hrs then it goes on General Sale.
    Asking for a friend who is definitely a spurs fan. Her and I wanting to go. What are the chances of us getting a ticket on general sale. We always said that if we play each other we want to go.  
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,556
    OK staunch defenders of the scheme defend the 2 tickets per person?. 

    this is literally the only forum of a club where you arent allowed to have an opinion without some pompous reply. 
    How about you tell everyone where you believe your spend of £120 per year (which you may win back) should put you in the priority list for away tickets.