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MATCH THREAD: Spurs V Charlton Athletic: Carabao Cup (2): Wed 26 August 2026: 19:45 [+POST P37]

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  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,732
    I genuinely worry about the future of the beautiful game. It’s sold its soul to billionaires. All very “lovely” in a brand new stadium. But it ain’t real football for me. And our approach to it stank - not sure whether to try or just give in. Basically we chose the latter. Long day. Night night. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,844
    Not quite sure where to start. Though maybe 5.45am alarm this morning is worth mentioning - a long day of travelling down from Scotland for that. 

    When I saw the line up I was shocked. To me that is disrespectful to fans, the competition and the opposition. I hoped against hope I’d have to eat my words but the outcome, with the injuries and heavy defeat, is even worse than I feared. Fans I know from 17 year olds to 70 year olds are pissed off. 

    NJ is his own man but we are meant to be a professional football club / team and across the season we compete in three competitions- the league, the EFL cup and the FA Cup. The latter two offer fans the opportunity for big days out and are part and parcel of the season. We’ve had shite cup draws over many years and I can forgive playing second strings v non league and lower league sides. But tonight wasn’t / shouldn’t have been that. Compare and contrast with the wonderful night we had at Old Trafford not so long ago - thank you Dean Holden. 

    NJ will have to cope now with the consequences of lack of centre halves and a shuddering halt to the strong momentum we’d been building. So we now don’t complete JRS signing because of this?!

    To play young and new players (Mesik, Ouma, Collins, Alli, MBick) who we are looking to integrate into the first team squad alongside those he has made it obvious are on their way out (Apter, Knibbs, Asiimwe, Doc) makes no sense whatsoever to me. And as for throwing Brooks in at the deep end when we have a new keeper champing at the bit to play? 

    Good (no not really) night from me. 
     Very measured post & exactly how I feel. 


  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,500
    edited August 27
    The backlash is probably lessened because it was a relatively local game for the majority of that away end. But how would people feel if this was Man U away again or even worse Newcastle? You’ve travelled all the way up there, with all the expense that involves, only for NJ to effectively feed them the C team who would duly get tonked.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,844
    Not quite sure where to start. Though maybe 5.45am alarm this morning is worth mentioning - a long day of travelling down from Scotland for that. 

    When I saw the line up I was shocked. To me that is disrespectful to fans, the competition and the opposition. I hoped against hope I’d have to eat my words but the outcome, with the injuries and heavy defeat, is even worse than I feared. Fans I know from 17 year olds to 70 year olds are pissed off. 

    NJ is his own man but we are meant to be a professional football club / team and across the season we compete in three competitions- the league, the EFL cup and the FA Cup. The latter two offer fans the opportunity for big days out and are part and parcel of the season. We’ve had shite cup draws over many years and I can forgive playing second strings v non league and lower league sides. But tonight wasn’t / shouldn’t have been that. Compare and contrast with the wonderful night we had at Old Trafford not so long ago - thank you Dean Holden. 

    NJ will have to cope now with the consequences of lack of centre halves and a shuddering halt to the strong momentum we’d been building. So we now don’t complete JRS signing because of this?!

    To play young and new players (Mesik, Ouma, Collins, Alli, MBick) who we are looking to integrate into the first team squad alongside those he has made it obvious are on their way out (Apter, Knibbs, Asiimwe, Doc) makes no sense whatsoever to me. And as for throwing Brooks in at the deep end when we have a new keeper champing at the bit to play? 

    Good (no not really) night from me. 
    Excellent post, I'm sorry you travelled all that way for that, its a huge credit to you as a supporter and a shame the club didn't fulfill their side of things, it was appalling the team didn't come over at the end.
    Huge respect to you for your effort and commitment. 
    Yeah,  what was that with the team.at the end  ?  NJ came over, and so did Lloyd Jones plus 2 or 3 others. But most seem to want to chat to the Spurs players in the centre circle then went off down the tunnel. 

    Perhaps they thought if the club didnt want to treat it seriously then why should they. Or they were too busy swapping shirts.

    Very let down by everyone tonight. Only player that came out with any credit was Asimwee. 


  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,844
    Apter, Ouma, Brooks, Knibbs and Docherty were absolute poo as well 
    I didnt realise Ouma was playing until half time. Team not read out (very disrespectful imo) and then not having them listed on the big screen just compounded the issue.

    What is it now with clubs not reading out the teams when they come out. W.Ham did it on Sat & now tonight. 

    Games gone.
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 5,514
    Not quite sure where to start. Though maybe 5.45am alarm this morning is worth mentioning - a long day of travelling down from Scotland for that. 

    When I saw the line up I was shocked. To me that is disrespectful to fans, the competition and the opposition. I hoped against hope I’d have to eat my words but the outcome, with the injuries and heavy defeat, is even worse than I feared. Fans I know from 17 year olds to 70 year olds are pissed off. 

    NJ is his own man but we are meant to be a professional football club / team and across the season we compete in three competitions- the league, the EFL cup and the FA Cup. The latter two offer fans the opportunity for big days out and are part and parcel of the season. We’ve had shite cup draws over many years and I can forgive playing second strings v non league and lower league sides. But tonight wasn’t / shouldn’t have been that. Compare and contrast with the wonderful night we had at Old Trafford not so long ago - thank you Dean Holden. 

    NJ will have to cope now with the consequences of lack of centre halves and a shuddering halt to the strong momentum we’d been building. So we now don’t complete JRS signing because of this?!

    To play young and new players (Mesik, Ouma, Collins, Alli, MBick) who we are looking to integrate into the first team squad alongside those he has made it obvious are on their way out (Apter, Knibbs, Asiimwe, Doc) makes no sense whatsoever to me. And as for throwing Brooks in at the deep end when we have a new keeper champing at the bit to play? 

    Good (no not really) night from me. 
    Excellent post, I'm sorry you travelled all that way for that, its a huge credit to you as a supporter and a shame the club didn't fulfill their side of things, it was appalling the team didn't come over at the end.
    Huge respect to you for your effort and commitment. 
    Yeah,  what was that with the team.at the end  ?  NJ came over, and so did Lloyd Jones plus 2 or 3 others. But most seem to want to chat to the Spurs players in the centre circle then went off down the tunnel. 

    Perhaps they thought if the club didnt want to treat it seriously then why should they. Or they were too busy swapping shirts.

    Very let down by everyone tonight. Only player that came out with any credit was Asimwee. 



    Were the 2 0r 3 others regular starters? the rest too start struck by the famous Spurs players?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,844
    aki2798 said:
    Easy to say in hindsight but I wish we’d got Wimbledon away instead. This team probably would’ve beaten them and it would’ve been a more satisfying day out lol.
    In future I'm not going to bother with cup games. Couldn't care who we get in the FA Cup  - be it Cray Valley or Arsenal the club will still put out a weakened side.

    Club aren't bothered so why should I be.
  • panther10
    panther10 Posts: 473
    3 wins on the bounce just beaten westham at the weekend so why break that momentum with so many changes for a local derby in a cup game ,with nearly 6,000 of us there tonight ....i dont get that logic ,a few changes yes but not 11  instead we go into the weekend on a heavy loss now 
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 14,215
    Just got home.

    To say this evening was a disappointment is a massive understatement.

    WTF was that team? By all means rest two, three, heck, even four but put out a decent and coherent team. That starting line was shocking and sucked the jam out the fans' donuts before we'd even started.

    What is the point of having a loyalty points scheme for away matches when the fans' loyalty is "rewarded" with a side like that? It should have been a good occasion, a chance for our players to test themselves against Premier League oppo and we had that instead. It was like travelling back in time to last season with our slow, inept midfield.

    Docherty, Apter and Knibbs did themselves no favours whatsoever.

    I thought Asiimwe did OK given he seemed to be moved along the back line every few minutes in the first half.

    Mbick had his moments with what little possession we had, Mwamba had a storming second-half cameo. Miles did well too.

    Well done L Jones for yet another goal and D-Mac put himself about a bit, bundling oppo players over which was nice to see.

    The ref was a joke ... but that was to be expected.

    Time for bed ...
  • Didn't watch as it was 4.30am here.
    So maybe I'm seeing things from a different perspective than those who went and are feeling so down.
    Told my other half yesterday that I'd be fine with a 5-1 and actually expected it, I just didn't want to see an embarrassing 7 against !

    The injuries are a real downer, but just typical of our luck.

    But Sichenje hadn't been starting anyway and despite very promising cameos, hasn't yet established himself as a starter. Hopefully it isn't as bad as feared and he comes back quickly.

    Billy will be a big miss because he's looked great. But we have Mesik or Bell who can cover, with Josh hopefully not too far away.
    Of course we will probably need to now bring in some cover, perhaps a loan.

    Jones's post match comments are concerning especially as they relate to our transfer targets.
    But hopefully it doesn't scupper the JRS deal.
    It may even strengthen our hand when negotiating with Palace, in that, our priorities have now changed.

    Attack is the best form of defence and having a potent forward line with JRS in it, could go a long way to coping with the loss of Billy K.

     



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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 35,012
    Same old shit , zero interest in this fixture youngest son wanted to go so I took him .
    The others made their own way there except boffin who just couldn’t be bothered , I knew he was the clever one. He’s been Carlisle and plenty of other shithouse trips  a million miles away but Spurs against our reserves , nope .
    All this new ground oooooh we’re playing spurs excitement not for me , our first Xl would get schooled never mind the expected stiffs . 
    No idea how many changes they made or how strong they were but Chelsea’s 1-5 last year when they made lots of changes was a warning .
    How I yearn for the good old days when we’d go there and beat them cunts .
    they would have had a lot of fans there who don’t go to the proper fixtures when first teams actually play and it’s not a game as a spurs fan you’re gonna get excited about , so no surprise fuck all atmosphere from then . 
    We’d hardly be lively with a local derby against Wimbledon or Cray Valley .
    it is what it is just hope we go back to drawing shit teams and sneak our way further in to the FA Cup where if we get far enough and appear to be safe in the league (no chance) and can put out a strong team and have a go .
    what Xl would he have put out against the scum 🤷
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 15,213
    I appreciate that it’s annoying not seeing the best lineup if you had a ticket but Jones made 10 changes and the one change he didn’t make resulted in an injury to that player potentially so devastating we might not be able to sign JRS as a result. The margins are so fine at this level across so many departments 
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 2,184
    I appreciate that it’s annoying not seeing the best lineup if you had a ticket but Jones made 10 changes and the one change he didn’t make resulted in an injury to that player potentially so devastating we might not be able to sign JRS as a result. The margins are so fine at this level across so many departments 
    We won't be signing JRS and if you read the transfer thread it seems it had nothing to do with last nights result.
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 2,184
    One thing I learnt from last night is that in future big match ticket allocation should be one ticket each..

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 101,531
    edited August 27
    EastStand said:
    Meh. We simply don’t have the squad depth or quality to compete in the Champ AND a cup run. Best to do as we’ve done and get some good competitive minutes in for the B squad lads and crack on with the season. 
    Why did we play such a strong side against Cheltenham then? 🤷‍♂️
    Because it got treated as a final Pre-Season game for those starting vs Derby the following week, especially as last night was the first time the eleven has been changed since. 
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 2,337
    edited August 27
    EastStand said:
    Meh. We simply don’t have the squad depth or quality to compete in the Champ AND a cup run. Best to do as we’ve done and get some good competitive minutes in for the B squad lads and crack on with the season. 
    Why did we play such a strong side against Cheltenham then? 🤷‍♂️

    Wasn't that game part of the pre season prep as things were delayed .  so minutes in legs and all that.
  • Coyotejohn1947
    Coyotejohn1947 Posts: 1,169
    Please don't tell me that there were half and half scarves for sale outside the ground.
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,235
    Watched Doc at the end of the game, he came over to the away fans, stood there with hands on hips seeming to take it all in, gave a big sigh, I think that was his last appearance for us.
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,235
    edited August 27
    When your playing a team with subs who are world cup winners and £75m price tags it was only going to go one way eventually, when they got the second I said to my son, its a matter of how many now.


  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,235
    Not quite sure where to start. Though maybe 5.45am alarm this morning is worth mentioning - a long day of travelling down from Scotland for that. 

    When I saw the line up I was shocked. To me that is disrespectful to fans, the competition and the opposition. I hoped against hope I’d have to eat my words but the outcome, with the injuries and heavy defeat, is even worse than I feared. Fans I know from 17 year olds to 70 year olds are pissed off. 

    NJ is his own man but we are meant to be a professional football club / team and across the season we compete in three competitions- the league, the EFL cup and the FA Cup. The latter two offer fans the opportunity for big days out and are part and parcel of the season. We’ve had shite cup draws over many years and I can forgive playing second strings v non league and lower league sides. But tonight wasn’t / shouldn’t have been that. Compare and contrast with the wonderful night we had at Old Trafford not so long ago - thank you Dean Holden. 

    NJ will have to cope now with the consequences of lack of centre halves and a shuddering halt to the strong momentum we’d been building. So we now don’t complete JRS signing because of this?!

    To play young and new players (Mesik, Ouma, Collins, Alli, MBick) who we are looking to integrate into the first team squad alongside those he has made it obvious are on their way out (Apter, Knibbs, Asiimwe, Doc) makes no sense whatsoever to me. And as for throwing Brooks in at the deep end when we have a new keeper champing at the bit to play? 

    Good (no not really) night from me. 
     Very measured post & exactly how I feel. 


    Have to agree, I get the bigger picture etc, I'm torn between he did the right thing and taking the fans for granted

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  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 2,184
    Please don't tell me that there were half and half scarves for sale outside the ground.
    I saw a Spurs fan with one on...
  • robinofottershaw
    robinofottershaw Posts: 2,116
    edited August 27
    Not quite sure where to start. Though maybe 5.45am alarm this morning is worth mentioning - a long day of travelling down from Scotland for that. 

    When I saw the line up I was shocked. To me that is disrespectful to fans, the competition and the opposition. I hoped against hope I’d have to eat my words but the outcome, with the injuries and heavy defeat, is even worse than I feared. Fans I know from 17 year olds to 70 year olds are pissed off. 

    NJ is his own man but we are meant to be a professional football club / team and across the season we compete in three competitions- the league, the EFL cup and the FA Cup. The latter two offer fans the opportunity for big days out and are part and parcel of the season. We’ve had shite cup draws over many years and I can forgive playing second strings v non league and lower league sides. But tonight wasn’t / shouldn’t have been that. Compare and contrast with the wonderful night we had at Old Trafford not so long ago - thank you Dean Holden. 

    NJ will have to cope now with the consequences of lack of centre halves and a shuddering halt to the strong momentum we’d been building. So we now don’t complete JRS signing because of this?!

    To play young and new players (Mesik, Ouma, Collins, Alli, MBick) who we are looking to integrate into the first team squad alongside those he has made it obvious are on their way out (Apter, Knibbs, Asiimwe, Doc) makes no sense whatsoever to me. And as for throwing Brooks in at the deep end when we have a new keeper champing at the bit to play? 

    Good (no not really) night from me. 
    Really do feel for you and all fans who bought tickets. Whilst part of me understands the rationale for resting players for these games, it really does make a mockery of the competition. As I understand, in the EFL Cup each team receives 45% of the gate receipts with 10% going to the EFL. So, if none of you had bought a ticket the gate would have been 43,000 instead of 49,000 which would still have given Charlton a decent pay day.

    So, given both the time and financial commitment you and others made to attend last night, just remember this for January when the third round of the FA Cup comes around.


  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,235
    redbuttle said:
    Please don't tell me that there were half and half scarves for sale outside the ground.
    I saw a Spurs fan with one on...
    There was a bloke selling them outside White Hart Lane station
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 9,131
    Would rather have watched 2 evenly matched grannies having a knitting competition than watch that shit - not interested in watching non competitive games - zero chance I attend any more early round cup games - football is half dead - just end cup games, what’s the point ? 
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 11,721
    Please don't tell me that there were half and half scarves for sale outside the ground.
    Saw quiet a few third, third and third scarfs with Wrexham on them as well. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 11,055
    EastStand said:
    Meh. We simply don’t have the squad depth or quality to compete in the Champ AND a cup run. Best to do as we’ve done and get some good competitive minutes in for the B squad lads and crack on with the season. 
    Why did we play such a strong side against Cheltenham then? 🤷‍♂️
    Because it got treated as a final Pre-Season game for those starting vs Derby the following week, especially as last night was the first time the eleven has been changed since. 
    Yeah Cheltenham was basically a glorified final friendly to get minutes in , that didn't bother me lineup wise because your last PSF you'd kinda be hoping to have your strongest lineup out. 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 9,131
    Same old shit , zero interest in this fixture youngest son wanted to go so I took him .
    The others made their own way there except boffin who just couldn’t be bothered , I knew he was the clever one. He’s been Carlisle and plenty of other shithouse trips  a million miles away but Spurs against our reserves , nope .
    All this new ground oooooh we’re playing spurs excitement not for me , our first Xl would get schooled never mind the expected stiffs . 
    No idea how many changes they made or how strong they were but Chelsea’s 1-5 last year when they made lots of changes was a warning .
    How I yearn for the good old days when we’d go there and beat them cunts .
    they would have had a lot of fans there who don’t go to the proper fixtures when first teams actually play and it’s not a game as a spurs fan you’re gonna get excited about , so no surprise fuck all atmosphere from then . 
    We’d hardly be lively with a local derby against Wimbledon or Cray Valley .
    it is what it is just hope we go back to drawing shit teams and sneak our way further in to the FA Cup where if we get far enough and appear to be safe in the league (no chance) and can put out a strong team and have a go .
    what Xl would he have put out against the scum 🤷
    He put a shit team put out away to the scum last year - I weren’t impressed with that either 
  • Southendaddick
    Southendaddick Posts: 5,530
    Can only echo the thoughts of many
    Saw the line up on the train to WHL and was instantly deflated, pretty sure most fans felt it as
    despite the numbers and a bit of noise early we were flat as well,   Expect a better atmosphere with 1k at West Brom in a week
    Game just highlighted the huge gulf between our first 11 and the rest but the frustrating thing was Spurs were fairly timid in that first half, Carey TC Grant and Leaburn may have caused some damage, we’ll never know now…
    Spurs fans very muggy post game as expected I’ve never liked them, taking the piss and getting aggy with a few of our lot for beating our third team, behave.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 11,721
    DOUCHER said:
    Same old shit , zero interest in this fixture youngest son wanted to go so I took him .
    The others made their own way there except boffin who just couldn’t be bothered , I knew he was the clever one. He’s been Carlisle and plenty of other shithouse trips  a million miles away but Spurs against our reserves , nope .
    All this new ground oooooh we’re playing spurs excitement not for me , our first Xl would get schooled never mind the expected stiffs . 
    No idea how many changes they made or how strong they were but Chelsea’s 1-5 last year when they made lots of changes was a warning .
    How I yearn for the good old days when we’d go there and beat them cunts .
    they would have had a lot of fans there who don’t go to the proper fixtures when first teams actually play and it’s not a game as a spurs fan you’re gonna get excited about , so no surprise fuck all atmosphere from then . 
    We’d hardly be lively with a local derby against Wimbledon or Cray Valley .
    it is what it is just hope we go back to drawing shit teams and sneak our way further in to the FA Cup where if we get far enough and appear to be safe in the league (no chance) and can put out a strong team and have a go .
    what Xl would he have put out against the scum 🤷
    He put a shit team put out away to the scum last year - I weren’t impressed with that either 
    Tell me about it. I was particularly unimpressed with Clarke and can’t believe Berry didn’t get on the pitch:



  • Valleysarr
    Valleysarr Posts: 1,148
    I can accept us playing a B team and getting done by 300m of talent but the players and staff to not come within 30 metres of the away fans at end has fucked me off beyond belief.

    thats a disgraceful reaction to those that have paid and travelled 
    Jones should have said this was going to be an ultra reserve team so don’t waste your money if you want us to have a go …