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What’s happened to Harvey Knibbs?

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  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,793
    Long season can't judge after 2 games and at least he's making the squad unlike docherty
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 6,489
    Not sure he’s any good .  
  • timken
    timken Posts: 1,147
    Was very poor at spurs
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,732
    Seems his only trick is popping up with a goal. Not basing it on last night, but he doesn't look Championship level at all. 
  • doronron
    doronron Posts: 881
    I thought the same,don't look Championship to me 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 28,705
    I don’t think anything has ever ‘happened’ to him. He’s never looked up to The Championship, simple as that. League One player.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,657
    Yes finding a bit frustrating, feel like he has something but not really seen much, he was so behind the game last night.
  • StrikerFirmani
    StrikerFirmani Posts: 2,833
    Yet some of our resident experts want to drop Carey for him. Puzzles me for sure what some see & think.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,415
    We bought him, like Apter and Tanto,  as one of the best in League One hoping they could all step up to the Championship. It’s what we had to do at the time. We have now moved on from that hopefully. Unfortunately none of them look good enough. It’s early days but I think we may end up adding Alli to the list too.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 39,449
    StrikerFirmani said:
    Yet some of our resident experts want to drop Carey for him. Puzzles me for sure what some see & think.
    Thought the same during preseason. Carey’s good at driving with the ball, shooting in  and around the box and takes some decent set pieces, including long throws. His passing and decision making frustrates but if he had everything we’d be selling him this summer for a big fee.

    Knibbs will get a few goals but I’ve never seen anything from him in either his passing or running at the opposition that sticks out as Championship standard, or above what Carey offers.

    I don’t think work rate is an issue with either as it’s one of the first things NJ looks for, even in that 10/AM position.

    Useful squad player for me but even then JRC offers more technical ability, Fullah has a lot of potential and Mwamba might even be able to play in that role. It’s not a given that he’s always the alternative to Carey.

    Keeping him or loaning him out wouldn’t surprise me while we shuffle the squad in these last few days of the window.

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  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann Posts: 1,692
    Would still like to see him in a few league games before passing complete judgement on the player personally 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,580
    Swap him out last night for Carey and everyone would be on his back instead, it wasn't the player it was the game and the system
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 73,107
    Ineffective yesterday. Mwamba and JRC were much better when they came on.

    With the need to create squad space, and maybe funds, he feels expendable
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,796
    My frustration with Knibbs is how many times you see him on the floor in each appearance.

    A mixture of trying a tad too hard, lacking strength, and knowing he needs to impress.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,657
    killerandflash said:
    Ineffective yesterday. Mwamba and JRC were much better when they came on.

    With the need to create squad space, and maybe funds, he feels expendable
    Tend to agree, doesn’t feel like he is going to step up as required, which is a bit of a shame, however he may be one to be sacrificed to enhance the team.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 13,641
    Really want to like Knibbs but can't figure out what he offers.

    He's not quick, strong or skillful. He is so slow pressing down that he has to needlessly slide or flail his arms around to give the impression that he is in fact adding some pressure to the player on the ball. 
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 15,231
    Never really "got" him.  I am yet to see this great presser, as said he doesn't have pace, not got a trick or a great passer.

    Maybe he needs a run in the team or maybe the gap between L1 and The Championship is just too great now - not many are able to make the adjustment.

  • CAFCBourne
    CAFCBourne Posts: 3,893
    To judge him against the spurs 3 last night is very harsh.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,629
    cafcsinger said:
    Seems his only trick is popping up with a goal. Not basing it on last night, but he doesn't look Championship level at all. 
    Not a bad trick to have.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,568
    Don't think we have seen enough of him in the Champ to judge

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 73,107
    CAFCBourne said:
    To judge him against the spurs 3 last night is very harsh.
    But on top of an ineffectual previous season. And not coming off the bench in any of the first 3 games of the season.

    I thought it was interesting that when we brought Leaburn on, it was for Knibbs and not for Mbick, who played the full 90.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 67,294
    edited August 27
    StrikerFirmani said:
    Yet some of our resident experts want to drop Carey for him. Puzzles me for sure what some see & think.
    Criticism of Carey =/= wanting to drop him for Knibbs

    Beginning to feel like this is the Kaminski and Mannion debate on this forum all over again. Just because you might not rate one doesn’t mean you are a fan of the other option. It’s not a binary situation.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 13,641
    edited August 27
    CAFCBourne said:
    To judge him against the spurs 3 last night is very harsh.
    And the multiple other times we've seen him be ineffective?
  • DessieValley
    DessieValley Posts: 365
    Harvey Knibbs. I want to like him but his performances haven't done enough to merit it. Uh-huh uh-huh
  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 1,067
    As there been a single game where he has played well? scored against watford, coventry, Pompey, but cant say I have ever seen him have a good game. at best he just pops up with the odd goal from nowhere
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,726
    He looked the business for Reading every time we played them. He had Sam Smith winning everything in the air bulkying centre halves and was able to pick up loads of second balls and knit things together. 

    I think he will get there, crucially he isn't lacking in desire, effort or application. 
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,793
    Croydon said:
    CAFCBourne said:
    To judge him against the spurs 3 last night is very harsh.
    And the multiple other times we've seen him be ineffective?
    Last season was a bit of a write off, would be interested to see how he gets on in the league this season obviously not been used and was crap yesterday (albeit against spurs) but could offer something once he starts getting league minutes 
  • _uptheaddicks
    _uptheaddicks Posts: 382
    Weak. Was hoping he'd build some muscle over the summer. 
  • closet_addick
    closet_addick Posts: 459
    I call him Temu Bellingham for a reason. Same type of player, just... eh, not as good. 

    The only way to see what he's made of, is if he got a chance to play a string of games in the league, which I can't see happening any time soon. 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,657
    edited August 28
    Unfortunately whenever he’s had  a chance to stake a claim he’s never really taken it. He was good against Hull but that was a few games away from the end of the season and only one game. Don’t know how many more chances he should get to be honest.

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