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POST-MATCH THREAD: West Bromwich Albion v Charlton Athletic: Wednesday 2nd September 2026

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  • Southbank said:
    Southbank said:
    Stoke,
    Mesik in for Bell
    Midfield three of Cov, Skipp and Costello
    Grant Leaburn and TC up front.

    Three points
    Isn’t skipp suspended for another two games?
    No he is available Saturday. Maybe too soon tho as the squad are all up in Stoke somewhere until then. Maybe on the bench.
    He only had a one match ban? 
  • Sick and tired of this winless run tbh. Haven't had a dopamine hit since 17:30 on Saturday....
    If you want free flowing attacking and winning football, go watch Millwall……oh 😂
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,587
    They don't play the same position but Coventry can't be dropped. He has been one of our best players so far and JRC can play with him if Chalobah isn't fit.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,899
    Thought West Brom were the best passing side we have played in a long time. WIth that though, they didn't create that much. I thought the ref helped them a bit but he wasn't terrible. They will be a vey hard team to beat at the Hawthorns so it is a decent resulr. Being picky but I think Bindon needed to try to head the ball out wider.
    Probably already been mentioned but after making the defensive header why was it left to Bindon to then try & close the man down, somebody else should have been out there.

    Again also probably already been covered but their's was an own goal wasn't it ? Surely it took a deflection, would AO have reached it but for that ?
  • shirty5 said:
    fenaddick said:
    gringo said:
    When we are staying over, between away fixtures, will we have arranged the chance to train somewhere?
    Yes, either with a club or somewhere like St George’s park. All depends on Geography 
    Champneys has got a football pitch in Measham 
    Sounds like a Wine Bar 
    The England cricket team are pencilled in for a scrap on Friday evening
    Looking at the size of our team now, I wouldn't fancy their chances!

    And I think Mesik could sort them out single handed.
  • TD_Addick
    TD_Addick Posts: 200
    Couldn't keep up with West Brom they passed around us with ease they just didn't have any end product. Picking up points when your not playing well is great stuff. Please don't play Bell LB when we go with a four at the back it doesn't work, team will need rotating as they chased the ball the whole game was hard work. Big shout out to Leaburn had no support but worked his socks off been really pleased with him this season definitely gone up a gear.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,587
    TD_Addick said:
    Couldn't keep up with West Brom they passed around us with ease they just didn't have any end product. Picking up points when your not playing well is great stuff. Please don't play Bell LB when we go with a four at the back it doesn't work, team will need rotating as they chased the ball the whole game was hard work. Big shout out to Leaburn had no support but worked his socks off been really pleased with him this season definitely gone up a gear.
    It is the big worry for WBA fans. They are much better than last season but a bit toothless. Okonkwo had to make a few saves but nothing amazing. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 8,098
    Sick and tired of this winless run tbh. Haven't had a dopamine hit since 17:30 on Saturday....
    If you want free flowing attacking and winning football, go watch Millwall……oh 😂
    Free flowing injuries. Long may it continue!
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,587
    edited September 3
    I thought I'd ask AI for its opinion on fouls on Leaburn. It seems to make sense:

    Miles Leaburn gets fouled heavily because of his massive 6'7" physical frame and holding-centric style of play, which referees frequently misinterpret as mutual physical battling rather than illegal targeting. [1, 2]
    As a prominent target man for Charlton Athletic, his unique profile makes him a regular victim of unpunished challenges due to several tactical and officiating factors:
    Why He Draws So Many Fouls
    • Extreme Height Advantage: Standing at roughly 6'7" (196 cm), defenders simply cannot compete with Leaburn cleanly in the air or during hold-up play. They routinely resort to tugging, leaning, and climbing over his back to disrupt him. [1, 2, 3]
    • Flick-On and Hold-Up Style: Statistical profiles from WhoScored explicitly highlight that Leaburn "gets fouled often" due to his tendency to protect the ball and lay off flick-ons. Because he keeps his body between the defender and the ball, opponents are forced to commit fouls to stop Charlton's momentum. [1]
    Why Referees Don't Punish the Defenders
    • The "Big Man" Officiating Bias: In football, referees often subconsciously allow defenders to be much more physical with exceptionally tall or strong strikers. Officials frequently view heavy contact against giant forwards as a "fair physical battle," assuming the larger player can absorb the impact.
    • Mutual Holding Perception: Because Leaburn actively uses his own arms and upper body strength to hold off defenders, referees regularly write off blatant fouls as "mutual holding". As noted by professional refereeing insights, if a giant forward tries to stay on his feet despite being pulled, officials are highly unlikely to blow the whistle or hand out yellow cards.
    • EFL/Championship Physicality: Playing in the highly competitive EFL Championship, the baseline threshold for what referees allow is naturally higher and more aggressive than in top-tier European leagues.


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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 24,618
    Can you not do that please, it clutters and defaces this website
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 24,618
    Not you clive, the WBA official report is crucial
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,863
    Calls for JRC starting is hilarious. He’s got his strengths but I’ve seen milk turn quicker.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 8,098
    Calls for JRC starting is hilarious. He’s got his strengths but I’ve seen milk turn quicker.
    Plenty of very good footballers aren't quick. Barry Bannan is a dickhead but quality, he's easily slower than JRC and has been incredibly effective for many years.
  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,885
    923 is a good turnout and they supported brilliantly.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,813
    Calls for JRC starting is hilarious. He’s got his strengths but I’ve seen milk turn quicker.
    Plenty of very good footballers aren't quick. Barry Bannan is a dickhead but quality, he's easily slower than JRC and has been incredibly effective for many years.
    In a different system though. A Nathan Jones starting midfielder needs to be more mobile 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 33,381
    Calls for JRC starting is hilarious. He’s got his strengths but I’ve seen milk turn quicker.
    Plenty of very good footballers aren't quick. Barry Bannan is a dickhead but quality, he's easily slower than JRC and has been incredibly effective for many years.
    But we have a system that’s working at the moment, surely JRC doesn’t make sense to start in the Chabolah/Mwamba role?
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,939
    Southbank said:
    Southbank said:
    Stoke,
    Mesik in for Bell
    Midfield three of Cov, Skipp and Costello
    Grant Leaburn and TC up front.

    Three points
    Isn’t skipp suspended for another two games?
    No he is available Saturday. Maybe too soon tho as the squad are all up in Stoke somewhere until then. Maybe on the bench.
    He is not. 

    He is available for the QPR match next Wed.
     Both Leicester and us have already played three games since he was banned after Burton.
    The Charlton website is selling tickets for QPR, saying he 'could' make his debut on that night, but I think he 'could' make his debut on Saturday.

  • What’s the news on Chalobah?

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,844
    Southbank said:
    Southbank said:
    Stoke,
    Mesik in for Bell
    Midfield three of Cov, Skipp and Costello
    Grant Leaburn and TC up front.

    Three points
    Isn’t skipp suspended for another two games?
    No he is available Saturday. Maybe too soon tho as the squad are all up in Stoke somewhere until then. Maybe on the bench.
    He is not. 

    He is available for the QPR match next Wed.
    He's served his suspension... Sent off vs. Burton... Missed: Ipswich - Sheff Wed - Plymouth / West Brom
    Best tell the club then because when we signed him the official blurb said.......

    "His debut could come on Wednesday September 8th when the Addicks take on QPR". 

    And to paraphrase the old saying

    WIOTOS 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 24,618
    Southbank said:
    Southbank said:
    Stoke,
    Mesik in for Bell
    Midfield three of Cov, Skipp and Costello
    Grant Leaburn and TC up front.

    Three points
    Isn’t skipp suspended for another two games?
    No he is available Saturday. Maybe too soon tho as the squad are all up in Stoke somewhere until then. Maybe on the bench.
    He is not. 

    He is available for the QPR match next Wed.
    He's served his suspension... Sent off vs. Burton... Missed: Ipswich - Sheff Wed - Plymouth / West Brom
    Best tell the club then because when we signed him the official blurb said.......

    "His debut could come on Wednesday September 8th when the Addicks take on QPR". 

    And to paraphrase the old saying

    WIOTOS 
    For the zillionth time, it said his VALLEY debut, he is categorically available on Sat
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,844
    edited September 3
    Southbank said:
    Southbank said:
    Southbank said:
    Stoke,
    Mesik in for Bell
    Midfield three of Cov, Skipp and Costello
    Grant Leaburn and TC up front.

    Three points
    Isn’t skipp suspended for another two games?
    No he is available Saturday. Maybe too soon tho as the squad are all up in Stoke somewhere until then. Maybe on the bench.
    He is not. 

    He is available for the QPR match next Wed.
     Both Leicester and us have already played three games since he was banned after Burton.
    The Charlton website is selling tickets for QPR, saying he 'could' make his debut on that night, but I think he 'could' make his debut on Saturday.

    That makes no sense. Why would they suggest a game after he is eligible. 

    Might as well say he "could" make his debut against Portsmouth on September 12th.

    I would assume soneone at the club, like me, thought that League Cup games didn't count. 


  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,813
    Southbank said:
    Southbank said:
    Southbank said:
    Stoke,
    Mesik in for Bell
    Midfield three of Cov, Skipp and Costello
    Grant Leaburn and TC up front.

    Three points
    Isn’t skipp suspended for another two games?
    No he is available Saturday. Maybe too soon tho as the squad are all up in Stoke somewhere until then. Maybe on the bench.
    He is not. 

    He is available for the QPR match next Wed.
     Both Leicester and us have already played three games since he was banned after Burton.
    The Charlton website is selling tickets for QPR, saying he 'could' make his debut on that night, but I think he 'could' make his debut on Saturday.

    That makes no sense. Why would they suggest a game after he is eligible. 

    Might as well say he "could" make his debut against Portsmouth on September 12th. 


    They also put it on the Bindon announcement. It’s purely a way to get a ticket link into the article 
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,939
    Calls for JRC starting is hilarious. He’s got his strengths but I’ve seen milk turn quicker.
    Plenty of very good footballers aren't quick. Barry Bannan is a dickhead but quality, he's easily slower than JRC and has been incredibly effective for many years.
    You can have a slowish player at defensive midfield, but not at 10. They have to be pretty mobile. Costello is not a defensive mid. 
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 16,600
    Southbank said:
    Southbank said:
    Southbank said:
    Stoke,
    Mesik in for Bell
    Midfield three of Cov, Skipp and Costello
    Grant Leaburn and TC up front.

    Three points
    Isn’t skipp suspended for another two games?
    No he is available Saturday. Maybe too soon tho as the squad are all up in Stoke somewhere until then. Maybe on the bench.
    He is not. 

    He is available for the QPR match next Wed.
     Both Leicester and us have already played three games since he was banned after Burton.
    The Charlton website is selling tickets for QPR, saying he 'could' make his debut on that night, but I think he 'could' make his debut on Saturday.

    That makes no sense. Why would they suggest a game after he is eligible. 

    Might as well say he "could" make his debut against Portsmouth on September 12th.

    I would assume soneone at the club, like me, thought that League Cup games didn't count. 


    .....it says could make his Valley debut against QPR
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 1,592
    edited September 3
    I appreciate it is almost certainly my poor eyesight but I thought when JRC made that late dash to intercept the ball, wasn't he fouled? The ref seemed to think it was ok but was happy for Leaburn to be fouled all night .He was through if he got past their player. Is it worth the club compililng a video of fouls on Leaburn that refs let go and sending to the EFL? Would it help if it was brought to the attention of refs, just to put it in their minds? Probably not.

    As for Skipp, he probably needs to be on the bench and play for the U-21s for a few games. And JRC looks a different player from last season. Finally Bindon. Looked ok if a bit slow. Seems to have a good long throw. I think he should have done better for the goal clearling wide rather than in shooting range but may be being over picky. 
    I think Leaburn needs to turn out with his head bandaged and with some tomato ketchup dabbed on it, strapping on his legs and his arm in a sling, maybe then they will treat him with a bit more sympathy.
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,153
    My first game in person since the second play off semi v Wycombe at the Valley, and the first time ive
    seen us this season.

    For the first time in a number of years, we seem at last to have competent players in all positions across
    the park. It really makes a difference.

    Good to see a calm and capable keeper for the first time in years. Nice not to have heart failure every time some one gets a sniff of goal.

    Thought it was a good first half, felt West Brom were nothing special and that we would score at least one. Unfortunately we were half asleep at the start of the second half when they put us under a lot pressure, which eventually led to them scoring.

    Shame we didn’t get our first 3 subs on sooner. They were all standing there ready to come on while we were busy conceding the Albion goal.

    JRC really made a positive impact when he came on, a couple of great driving forward runs including for
    the goal.

    Bindon did well, seeings as he’s only just arrived. Looked calm and collected.

    Lloyd Jones was immense, pretty much getting to everything that came his way.

    Also should note that Leaburn made some important contributions in defence as well as making TC’s goal.

    Consistently poor from the officials, ignoring fouls on us and blowing up every time one of them fell over. Linesmen never seemed to know which way to award the throws until the ref had already decided.
  • Southbank said:
    Southbank said:
    Southbank said:
    Stoke,
    Mesik in for Bell
    Midfield three of Cov, Skipp and Costello
    Grant Leaburn and TC up front.

    Three points
    Isn’t skipp suspended for another two games?
    No he is available Saturday. Maybe too soon tho as the squad are all up in Stoke somewhere until then. Maybe on the bench.
    He is not. 

    He is available for the QPR match next Wed.
     Both Leicester and us have already played three games since he was banned after Burton.
    The Charlton website is selling tickets for QPR, saying he 'could' make his debut on that night, but I think he 'could' make his debut on Saturday.

    That makes no sense. Why would they suggest a game after he is eligible. 

    Might as well say he "could" make his debut against Portsmouth on September 12th.

    I would assume soneone at the club, like me, thought that League Cup games didn't count. 


    It’s a Valley debut in front of his home supporters. That’s why it’s significant