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Collins Sichenje Signs On A Three And A Half Year Deal

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  • This is damning. And quite upsetting. 


    When I spoke to my spurs mate about the double injury to Koumetio and Collins, he instantly went "mate I'm telling you, it's our pitch". 

    I think I read Spurs are doing an investigation into it but might be wrong. 

    Gutted for Sichenje, hopefully the recovery goes well and he comes out the other end okay.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 31,266
    sam3110 said:
    This is damning. And quite upsetting. 


    First game of the season on it too as they didn't have a preseason friendly on it apparently
    They played a friendly on Saturday 15th against Hoffenhein.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 6,560
    Blame Burke’s flimsy body 
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,613
    wmcf123 said:
    Blame Burke’s flimsy body 
    Another stupid comment
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 6,560
    Redhenry said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Blame Burke’s flimsy body 
    Another stupid comment
    Thanks very much.  Assume you heard Jones’ interview about it that said basically what I did .  
  • CAFC128
    CAFC128 Posts: 6
    Also gutting that Collins will miss a home African Cup of Nations as well. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 67,418
    edited September 7
    He missed 4 games in 2024/25 and 3 games in the first half of 2025/26 before we signed him.

    That’s 7 total games missed (not in the matchday squad) from a possible 57 as there are 37 games in a league season in Serbia, not 30 as previously stated on this thread.

    None of the games he missed were back to back, indicating no history of lengthy injury issues and could equally be attributed to suspension or other off field issues without proper sources to check.

    1st Sep 2024 - Partizan (A)
    15th Dec 2024 - Backa Topola (A)
    29th March 2025 - Red Star (H)
    25th May 2025 - Partizan (A) (last game of the season)

    27th Sep 2025 - Zeleznicar Pancevo (H)
    24th Oct 2025 - Napredak (A)
    29th Nov 2025 - Spartak Subotica (H)

    Seen the question about his injury history come up a couple of times since. As per above, no history of long term injuries, just been very unlucky since arriving.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,738
    He missed 4 games in 2024/25 and 3 games in the first half of 2025/26 before we signed him.

    That’s 7 total games missed (not in the matchday squad) from a possible 57 as there are 37 games in a league season in Serbia, not 30 as previously stated on this thread.

    None of the games he missed were back to back, indicating no history of lengthy injury issues and could equally be attributed to suspension or other off field issues without proper sources to check.

    1st Sep 2024 - Partizan (A)
    15th Dec 2024 - Backa Topola (A)
    29th March 2025 - Red Star (H)
    25th May 2025 - Partizan (A) (last game of the season)

    27th Sep 2025 - Zeleznicar Pancevo (H)
    24th Oct 2025 - Napredak (A)
    29th Nov 2025 - Spartak Subotica (H)

    Seen the question about his injury history come up a couple of times since. As per above, no history of long term injuries, just been very unlucky since arriving.
    It's the Charlton way.
    Are Ouma and Skipp injured yet?
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,995
    He missed 4 games in 2024/25 and 3 games in the first half of 2025/26 before we signed him.

    That’s 7 total games missed (not in the matchday squad) from a possible 57 as there are 37 games in a league season in Serbia, not 30 as previously stated on this thread.

    None of the games he missed were back to back, indicating no history of lengthy injury issues and could equally be attributed to suspension or other off field issues without proper sources to check.

    1st Sep 2024 - Partizan (A)
    15th Dec 2024 - Backa Topola (A)
    29th March 2025 - Red Star (H)
    25th May 2025 - Partizan (A) (last game of the season)

    27th Sep 2025 - Zeleznicar Pancevo (H)
    24th Oct 2025 - Napredak (A)
    29th Nov 2025 - Spartak Subotica (H)

    Seen the question about his injury history come up a couple of times since. As per above, no history of long term injuries, just been very unlucky since arriving.
    It's the Charlton way.
    Are Ouma and Skipp injured yet?
    Not yet……but they have block booked a couple of treatment tables at Sparrows Lane.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,704
    I asked my mate Martin Cloak of Spurs Supporters Trust about the pitch rumours:

    “It’s a popular theory, but there is no evidence it’s based on fact. It’s grass, not 3G. They have carried out a study recently that found no basis for the theory. Our injuries are more likely down to changing managers frequently with the attendant big change in training routines.”

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  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,732
    There are certainly differing opinions at Tottenham. I did the stadium tour and the dyed in the wool fan who was the guide in the pitch area certainly bought into the injury theory. The pitch is regrown off site every year - grass through plastic as most clubs have these days - then it is brought in and laid on sand on top of concrete. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,540
    the view on the Spurs pitch is that it's really firm, and players are more likely to get studs caught in the surface because of that, there is very little below the surface so less give. Has a tendency to be slick on top and then rock hard underneath 
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,424
    I asked my mate Martin Cloak of Spurs Supporters Trust about the pitch rumours:

    “It’s a popular theory, but there is no evidence it’s based on fact. It’s grass, not 3G. They have carried out a study recently that found no basis for the theory. Our injuries are more likely down to changing managers frequently with the attendant big change in training routines.”
    So a study carried out by spurs shows that spurs aren’t putting people at risk.

    Seems legit. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 19,000
    edited September 8
    It's a retractable pitch... When you look at the pictures of it being retracted and you realise how shallow it is. It's a thin layer of turf layed on concrete. 


  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,732
    Think those photos say a lot.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 32,360
    If I remember rightly Collins clashed with a Spurs player immediately prior to his injury and hopped around in the immediate aftermath of the clash.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,839
    Have a lot of injuries been attributed to the pitch over all the sports played on it?, would open a big can of worms were it to be proved it’s a contributing factor. Like Len said he had taken that knock before the main incident. Real shame for the fella.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,813
    Sword65pf said:
    Have a lot of injuries been attributed to the pitch over all the sports played on it?, would open a big can of worms were it to be proved it’s a contributing factor. Like Len said he had taken that knock before the main incident. Real shame for the fella.
    Well the only other sport played regularly there is NFL and that uses a different pitch
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,839
    fenaddick said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Have a lot of injuries been attributed to the pitch over all the sports played on it?, would open a big can of worms were it to be proved it’s a contributing factor. Like Len said he had taken that knock before the main incident. Real shame for the fella.
    Well the only other sport played regularly there is NFL and that uses a different pitch
    Is the NFL artificial? Or hybrid?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,813
    Sword65pf said:
    fenaddick said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Have a lot of injuries been attributed to the pitch over all the sports played on it?, would open a big can of worms were it to be proved it’s a contributing factor. Like Len said he had taken that knock before the main incident. Real shame for the fella.
    Well the only other sport played regularly there is NFL and that uses a different pitch
    Is the NFL artificial? Or hybrid?
    I think it's artificial 

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  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,839
    fenaddick said:
    Sword65pf said:
    fenaddick said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Have a lot of injuries been attributed to the pitch over all the sports played on it?, would open a big can of worms were it to be proved it’s a contributing factor. Like Len said he had taken that knock before the main incident. Real shame for the fella.
    Well the only other sport played regularly there is NFL and that uses a different pitch
    Is the NFL artificial? Or hybrid?
    I think it's artificial 👍
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,704
    I asked my mate Martin Cloak of Spurs Supporters Trust about the pitch rumours:

    “It’s a popular theory, but there is no evidence it’s based on fact. It’s grass, not 3G. They have carried out a study recently that found no basis for the theory. Our injuries are more likely down to changing managers frequently with the attendant big change in training routines.”
    So a study carried out by spurs shows that spurs aren’t putting people at risk.

    Seems legit. 
    Yes I know. But they have lost players to ACL injuries themselves, and he is not the type for blind loyalty to his club whatever. 

    I have no idea what to think about this. What I do think about is that both his injuries with us came when he stayed on the pitch after sustaining what looked like a serious injury ( a hamstring is serious in that it should  be game over when it happens). I think we should be asking first about how we have cared for a player needing to adjust to a more intense physical game style than he is used to, before we start blaming other clubs.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,555
    Sword65pf said:
    fenaddick said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Have a lot of injuries been attributed to the pitch over all the sports played on it?, would open a big can of worms were it to be proved it’s a contributing factor. Like Len said he had taken that knock before the main incident. Real shame for the fella.
    Well the only other sport played regularly there is NFL and that uses a different pitch
    Is the NFL artificial? Or hybrid?
    Crap.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,839
    edited September 8
    Sword65pf said:
    fenaddick said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Have a lot of injuries been attributed to the pitch over all the sports played on it?, would open a big can of worms were it to be proved it’s a contributing factor. Like Len said he had taken that knock before the main incident. Real shame for the fella.
    Well the only other sport played regularly there is NFL and that uses a different pitch
    Is the NFL artificial? Or hybrid?
    Crap.
    What NFL?… or my comment, I’m getting a touch paranoid!!😂
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,562
    I think Real Madrid have a similar pitch and also have had a lot of injuries/ACL injuries 
  • Swisdom said:
    follett said:
    The grounds with retractable pitches like Spurs are seemingly seeing more ACL injuries than expected. Probably just a coincidence 
    Yeah, 4g grass laying on concrete - what could possibly go wrong........
    Spurs have had a huge amount of injuries since moving to the stadium so naturally people will blame the pitch. However Real Madrid also have the same retractable pitch system and so far they've not had anywhere near as many injuries as Spurs, although Carvajal and Rodrygo did both do their ACL since the pitch came into use. 2 players in 2 years isn't enough to blame the pitch though.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,562
    Swisdom said:
    follett said:
    The grounds with retractable pitches like Spurs are seemingly seeing more ACL injuries than expected. Probably just a coincidence 
    Yeah, 4g grass laying on concrete - what could possibly go wrong........
    Spurs have had a huge amount of injuries since moving to the stadium so naturally people will blame the pitch. However Real Madrid also have the same retractable pitch system and so far they've not had anywhere near as many injuries as Spurs, although Carvajal and Rodrygo did both do their ACL since the pitch came into use. 2 players in 2 years isn't enough to blame the pitch though.

    Real Madrid have also had quite a few knee injuries