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Timothy Ouma signs on a season long loan

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  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,567
    Kips said:
    Chawlton said:
    Kips said:
    Pleased to read the positive reviews following his league debut. Earlier in the week someone on one of the Charlton themed podcasts suggested we might want to look at loaning him out!
    Which one? saves me listening to utter drivel 
    Exactly what I was thinking. Personally, for me the best free podcasts are Charlton Live and Into the valley (YouTube only)
    If would be cruel to name and shame, because clearly it was a ridiculous and uninformed proposal. Suffice to say it wasn't either of the two pods mentioned.
    Charlton Chronicles?
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 15,213
    Shouldn't have started in an away game alongside a bunch of strangers. I don't know what Jones expected but exactly what we all thought would happen happened; he looked good in flashes, won some battles and also gave the ball away continually and then his confidence evaporated after he caused the situation for the corner and then gave away the penalty. There's definitely a player there but Jones has not helped him at all
  • hermann
    hermann Posts: 532
    Think he'll be a good player for us, needs easing in though 
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 15,250
    The overreaction on Twitter about Ouma makes it blindingly obvious he’s this seasons scapegoat.

    starting him was always a risk but the pile-on online is fucking disgusting.  I just hope he doesn’t read the idiots
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,839
    He needs time. He got mugged off for the pen, you will see 50 examples of that situation with nothing done from 3pm onwards.hopefully the coaches and players don’t pile on like some on here. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,815
    Sword65pf said:
    He needs time. He got mugged off for the pen, you will see 50 examples of that situation with nothing done from 3pm onwards.hopefully the coaches and players don’t pile on like some on here. 
    It was so clever from the Stoke player. You can see him grappling exactly the same way and then dip his head to make it look like he's being pulled down

    https://x.com/JoshMayne/status/2096223938984415586?s=20
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,793
    He looks like he would struggle in league one tbh.
    Every now and then you take a punt on an overseas player and it doesn't work out.

    Plenty of examples of this down the years  
    Omar Peurso
    Polish pete
    Swartz.

    Too early to judge Ouma as he's just settling in and I hope he goes on to be a very good signing. 

    But I have my doubts. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 67,419
    He shows signs of being decent but today he looked to me like he just needs to calm down a tiny bit.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,815
    He shows signs of being decent but today he looked to me like he just needs to calm down a tiny bit.
    Yeah he was getting lots of praise until the penalty and then he lost his head 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 13,550
    Said after ten mins to my son he was looking decent.

    Literally everything that could have gone wrong went wrong for him today.

    Not ready to give up on him just yet 

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  • I just feel he looks really frenetic at the moment. Maybe nerves, maybe trying to hard, or maybe that’s his style.
  • Thought he looked poor from the start.  Miss placed 3-4 simple passes in dangerous positions within 20 mins with at least 2 before the penalty.  Not writing him off but that was a dreadful start.
  • rikofold
    rikofold Posts: 4,072
    Championship football is hard, fast, and very physical. Ouma looks like he can take care of himself, but he did seem to panic a little. It was a mixed performance, some good stuff in there, but he seemed to panic on the ball and rushed countless passes. I'm sure he's better than he showed, but this league is a sharp learning curve - too soon for a start in a tricky away game imho. 

    I'm pointing the finger at the manager today rather than Ouma, calamitous selection that did the player few favours.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,795
    Funny isn't it, he came on Vs West Brom and played well and changed the game for the better alongside Rankin-Costello. 

    Today it was a bit of a horror show, but there was a fair amount of bad luck in there too, with the penalty (soft as hell) and the clearance hitting Grant and falling straight to their player for the second. 

    We shouldn't write him off so quick, but I suspect a few have 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,556
    Even before the pen, where I thought he was naive, he had a few misplaced passes. Then the pass to Grant for the second, even if it wasn’t a pass it was a poor clearance, just put your foot through it. He was ok at West Brom but gave the ball away a couple of times then too. It’s early days but I have serious doubts about him.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,839
    Anyone that wants a scapegoat will get a scapegoat!!
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,644
    the strangest signing of the transfer window for us, a possible player of the future , but not one for now and contributing to keeping us in the division.
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,792
    ct_addick said:
    Dare I say it but he reminds me of Pat Wicks!

  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,571
    Never a penalty but if we count it then he was at fault for first 2 goals. He looked poor, no composure and his passing was awful. Its not about scapegoating anyone its about calling it as it is.

    Lets hope he improves but he needs a massive improvement.
  • He was very poor today but on reflection i think Jones was asking a lot of him today.

    Away game, a place we never seem to do well at, playing alongside a guy we only signed 3 days ago and he probably only had 1 training session with. Not the smartest move from Jones.

    I wouldn't write Ouma off just yet, but today really wasn't the game to be playing him in.

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  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 18,811
    Composure and keeping a cool head is what he needs. I don't think it's a probably of quality. Needs to stay calm and make the right decision.

    Was hoping Skippy would show a bit more leadership alongside him today but perhaps that's harsh as he was on debut. I think Chalobah will make the best partner for Ouma.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 28,829
    He’ll have to improve if we released the club captain to accommodate him. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,967
    Composure and keeping a cool head is what he needs. I don't think it's a probably of quality. Needs to stay calm and make the right decision.

    Was hoping Skippy would show a bit more leadership alongside him today but perhaps that's harsh as he was on debut. I think Chalobah will make the best partner for Ouma.
    I still think he's got it in him to come good, he's had good and bad performances but today was firmly the latter. I think the issue is putting him into a role that is about composure and coolness when even on his better days that is not what his game is about. He's a blood and thunder type player, that back fired on him today and it clearly shook his confidence but starting him in that formation was a bad call by NJ in the first place for me, and set him up to fail.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,004
    It's amazing how new players can come in and get judged on 75 minutes of football and supporters think they are either s*** or should be sold.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 6,560
    It's amazing how new players can come in and get judged on 75 minutes of football and supporters think they are either s*** or should be sold.
    why he was picked ahead of Mwamba is anyone’s guess .  I also hope there was a good reason why Coventry was rested 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 16,328
    Needs a week off to get over the performance and then an extended period coming off the bench before being thrown in again. 
  • It was definitely a pen. 

    They don’t get called often but it’s a pen. 

    Needs to show some more nous 
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 1,044
    Had flashbacks to Amdy Faye today. 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,839
    wmcf123 said:
    It's amazing how new players can come in and get judged on 75 minutes of football and supporters think they are either s*** or should be sold.
    why he was picked ahead of Mwamba is anyone’s guess .  I also hope there was a good reason why Coventry was rested 
    Because Mwamba played Wednesday and found it a bit tough in a lot of people’s opinion. So why would you not play a player perceived to be a more experienced player?
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,839
    Also it’s worth noting, Ouma didn’t personally provide the opposition with 4 goals, the TEAM let themselves down in a really bad 30mins of the game.