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POST-MATCH THREAD: Stoke City v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 5th September 2026: KO 12:30

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  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,939
    thenewbie said:
    Four teams played back to back away from home on Wednesday night and Saturday: Charlton, Cardiff, Wrexham and Middlesbrough.

    - Charlton played 12:30 on Saturday and made four changes to their starting XI. Lost 4-0 at Stoke.

    - Cardiff played 15:00 on Saturday and made three changes to their starting XI. Lost 2-0 at Portsmouth.

    - Middlesbrough played 15:00 on Saturday and made two changes to their starting XI. Won 1-0 at QPR.

    - Wrexham played 20:00 on Saturday and made six changes to their starting XI. Drew 0-0 at Swansea.

    One scored, six conceded.


    Yeah, but if you take us out of it, of the other 3 one team won, one drew and one lost so our result heavily skews the 1-6 scoring.

    Whilst the Weds/Saturday thing may well have been a factor, other’s results don’t really support that particularly considering they were all away.

    We lost on Saturday because we lost our heads.
    That’s fair, but it also highlights that NJ wasn’t alone in making changes to his team following such a short (the shortest) turn around.
    True enough, but I don't know if the number of changes was the issue or was it the nature. It was tricky to work out what the shape/formation was meant to be from the 11 named, and then the midfield is two loanees, both making their first start and one of which is still very clearly adjusting to the league.

    I have no objections in principle to NJ making changes and using the squad but he got it very wrong this time.
    'Adjusting to the league'. So Ouma joins the the Apter, Knibbs, Mannion group in the squad. But not to the  imminently returning from injury group yet. Or the can't play three consecutive games group.
    That just about makes up most of the squad.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 30,103
    Four teams played back to back away from home on Wednesday night and Saturday: Charlton, Cardiff, Wrexham and Middlesbrough.

    - Charlton played 12:30 on Saturday and made four changes to their starting XI. Lost 4-0 at Stoke.

    - Cardiff played 15:00 on Saturday and made three changes to their starting XI. Lost 2-0 at Portsmouth.

    - Middlesbrough played 15:00 on Saturday and made two changes to their starting XI. Won 1-0 at QPR.

    - Wrexham played 20:00 on Saturday and made six changes to their starting XI. Drew 0-0 at Swansea.

    One scored, six conceded.


    Far too small a sample to have any statistical relevance. Carry out the same analysis across the whole season and it might tell you something meaningful.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,899
    I’m not sure what all the hype is about with Bindon yet. Thought he was pretty poor at times on Wednesday and looked completely flat-footed for their third goal today. 
  • Four teams played back to back away from home on Wednesday night and Saturday: Charlton, Cardiff, Wrexham and Middlesbrough.

    - Charlton played 12:30 on Saturday and made four changes to their starting XI. Lost 4-0 at Stoke.

    - Cardiff played 15:00 on Saturday and made three changes to their starting XI. Lost 2-0 at Portsmouth.

    - Middlesbrough played 15:00 on Saturday and made two changes to their starting XI. Won 1-0 at QPR.

    - Wrexham played 20:00 on Saturday and made six changes to their starting XI. Drew 0-0 at Swansea.

    One scored, six conceded.


    Making changes is not necessarily a problem, ripping out the heart of your midfield (all 3 players) is crazy ! 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 67,418
    se9addick said:
    Four teams played back to back away from home on Wednesday night and Saturday: Charlton, Cardiff, Wrexham and Middlesbrough.

    - Charlton played 12:30 on Saturday and made four changes to their starting XI. Lost 4-0 at Stoke.

    - Cardiff played 15:00 on Saturday and made three changes to their starting XI. Lost 2-0 at Portsmouth.

    - Middlesbrough played 15:00 on Saturday and made two changes to their starting XI. Won 1-0 at QPR.

    - Wrexham played 20:00 on Saturday and made six changes to their starting XI. Drew 0-0 at Swansea.

    One scored, six conceded.


    The team that made the fewest changes to their XI is the only team that won. 
    They (Middlesbrough) were also the only team of the four who travelled to an opponent (QPR) who also played on Wednesday.

    For Charlton, Cardiff and Wrexham, the teams they travelled to on Saturday had the extra day of rest by playing on Tuesday.
  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,849
    Highlight of the game was @mascot88's thoughts on the ref!
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 5,514
    Four teams played back to back away from home on Wednesday night and Saturday: Charlton, Cardiff, Wrexham and Middlesbrough.

    - Charlton played 12:30 on Saturday and made four changes to their starting XI. Lost 4-0 at Stoke.

    - Cardiff played 15:00 on Saturday and made three changes to their starting XI. Lost 2-0 at Portsmouth.

    - Middlesbrough played 15:00 on Saturday and made two changes to their starting XI. Won 1-0 at QPR.

    - Wrexham played 20:00 on Saturday and made six changes to their starting XI. Drew 0-0 at Swansea.

    One scored, six conceded.


    What a load of rubbish.
    been in Wetherspoons?
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,496
    Four teams played back to back away from home on Wednesday night and Saturday: Charlton, Cardiff, Wrexham and Middlesbrough.

    - Charlton played 12:30 on Saturday and made four changes to their starting XI. Lost 4-0 at Stoke.

    - Cardiff played 15:00 on Saturday and made three changes to their starting XI. Lost 2-0 at Portsmouth.

    - Middlesbrough played 15:00 on Saturday and made two changes to their starting XI. Won 1-0 at QPR.

    - Wrexham played 20:00 on Saturday and made six changes to their starting XI. Drew 0-0 at Swansea.

    One scored, six conceded.


    What a load of rubbish.
    Can you expand on that for me? : -)
    Let’s just say that it’s inconclusive.