Timothy Ouma signs on a season long loan

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,160
    Starts for Kenya today
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 1,349

  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 8,126
    The BBC have him playing further forward in the 10 role. Maybe that's where we're going wrong.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,160
    Definitely played an advanced role 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 33,479
    Subbed off after 65 mins 
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,951
    Didnt do much, likes to drop the shoulder and pass forward. 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,971
    edited September 26
    The BBC have him playing further forward in the 10 role. Maybe that's where we're going wrong.
    Well he’s awful as a defensive midfielder so maybe a forward role would suit where he can do least damage but not ahead of the likes of Carey.  Grant or Knibbs . 
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 4,403
    The BBC have him playing further forward in the 10 role. Maybe that's where we're going wrong.
    Well he’s awful as a defensive midfielder so maybe a forward role would suit where he can do least damage but not ahead of the likes of Carey.  Grant or Knibbs . 
    Or JRC

    so 5th choice no.10  :/
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 16,468
    fenaddick said:
    Definitely played an advanced role 

    Jones will coach that out of him.

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  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 3,048
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Our fanbase loves to write off a player at the drop of a hat. Give the lad time to settle ffs 🙄
    I understand the giving players time to settle but it can’t always used in every instance. It’s not impossible for players to get up to speed without much time, look at Mesik who hadnt touched competitive English league football before and Koumetio with 1 prev appearance. 

    Ouma needs time to learn the positioning/role etc perfectly acceptable but his biggest issue so far has been passing which is a fundamental of football. I don’t care if ur from the Czech league polish league danish league etc if ur a professional footballer you should be able to pass the ball 5 yards 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,971
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Our fanbase loves to write off a player at the drop of a hat. Give the lad time to settle ffs 🙄
    I agree with you on the majority of cases but not with Ouma. 




  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,584
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Our fanbase loves to write off a player at the drop of a hat. Give the lad time to settle ffs 🙄
    I understand the giving players time to settle but it can’t always used in every instance. It’s not impossible for players to get up to speed without much time, look at Mesik who hadnt touched competitive English league football before and Koumetio with 1 prev appearance. 

    Ouma needs time to learn the positioning/role etc perfectly acceptable but his biggest issue so far has been passing which is a fundamental of football. I don’t care if ur from the Czech league polish league danish league etc if ur a professional footballer you should be able to pass the ball 5 yards 
    He’s looked crap, but unlike Mesik and Koumetio, he hasn’t had a full pre season with us. 
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,536
    A pre season won’t mean he can magically perform a simple pass. Maybe it’s nerves and management need to build his confidence, but looks completely off it at present. 
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,584
    BalladMan said:
    A pre season won’t mean he can magically perform a simple pass. Maybe it’s nerves and management need to build his confidence, but looks completely off it at present. 
    Who said it would?
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 3,048
    arny23394 said:
    BalladMan said:
    A pre season won’t mean he can magically perform a simple pass. Maybe it’s nerves and management need to build his confidence, but looks completely off it at present. 
    Who said it would?
    No one said it would but people saying he hasn’t had a pre season or time to adapt shouldn’t impact your ability to pass the ball, that’s more for learning the positioning, role, fitness and sharpness.  

    Physically I actually think he looks very good he looks quick and strong especially for a midfield player I can see why Jones would like him. 

    That’s no his issue it’s the basics of the game now he may be rushing everything which could be coached out of him, I know it’s a very small sample but he’s in the bottom 4% of all midfielders for accurate passes 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 39,655
    Adapting can impact a players ability to pass, Louis Mendez mentioned a good example on his recent pod with Rich Cawley. Ouma played a through ball for McNamara but it came to nothing as McNamara didn't make the run.

    It's a positive that he tried a more difficult pass and it shows he may need time to settle into the way we play as a team and how his teammates play, and for them to learn more about him.

    I'm hoping Ouma and/or Mwamba can step up, as we can't rely on Chalobah's fitness, and Coventry and Skipp look similar players so might not be our best partnership.
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,951
    Tbf when he made a wayward pass in the game yeaterday the commentator said ‘who was that even to?!’
    😂

    i like the fact he only looks forward, likes to
    drop the shoulder, intelligent play to get a yard on players and make things happen. However, like knibbs, i would fear he might just not be at this level to allow him to compete. Lets hope he is!
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 5,713
    Weirdly this came up on my YouTube feed

    https://youtu.be/e41R4duAF5I?is=UEHJvYbyhFNtcoLF
  • scruffle
    scruffle Posts: 2,463
    Weirdly this came up on my YouTube feed

    https://youtu.be/e41R4duAF5I?is=UEHJvYbyhFNtcoLF
    lets hope this is a true reflection of his ability and once settled in starts to show this for us.....


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  • crookester
    crookester Posts: 1,710
    There's certainly a player in there. He may or may not ever settle in English football but way too early to make that judgment.
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 4,403
    There's certainly a player in there. He may or may not ever settle in English football but way too early to make that judgment.
    previous "there's certainly a player in there" nominees:

    Kirk
    Apter
    Arter
    Jaiyesimi
    Terry taylor
    Moutakil
    big fat peter garland


  • YTS1978
    YTS1978 Posts: 1,876
    Scoham said:
    Adapting can impact a players ability to pass, Louis Mendez mentioned a good example on his recent pod with Rich Cawley. Ouma played a through ball for McNamara but it came to nothing as McNamara didn't make the run.

    It's a positive that he tried a more difficult pass and it shows he may need time to settle into the way we play as a team and how his teammates play, and for them to learn more about him.

    I'm hoping Ouma and/or Mwamba can step up, as we can't rely on Chalobah's fitness, and Coventry and Skipp look similar players so might not be our best partnership.
    At Cardiff i think he actually played a really good through ball to Leaburn, who threw his arms up in frustration and gave up running for it! Everything else he did was a total disaster though. Surely he can only get better, right?
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,545
    Had really high hopes for him. Not giving up on him just yet though.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,160
    Drops to the bench for today's game against Guinea
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,160
    edited October 1
    fenaddick said:
    Drops to the bench for today's game against Guinea
    Came on at HT. Kenya lost 1-0
  • scruffle
    scruffle Posts: 2,463
    edited October 1
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Drops to the bench for today's game against Guinea
    Came on at HT. Ghana lost 1-0
    But how did Kenya do? 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,160
    scruffle said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Drops to the bench for today's game against Guinea
    Came on at HT. Ghana lost 1-0
    But how dix Kenya do? 
    FFS. Long day 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 52,558
    2121 said:
    Didnt do much, likes to drop the shoulder and pass forward. 
    Get rid, we don't do forward passing 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 5,713
    Dazzler21 said:
    2121 said:
    Didnt do much, likes to drop the shoulder and pass forward. 
    Get rid, we don't do forward passing 
    makes sense why he's struggling to fit in tho  :D