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How do you pronounce the names of foreign teams?

Dave Rudd
Dave Rudd Posts: 2,875
edited April 2011 in Other Football and Sports
Just wondered what everyone's personal rules are?

Danny Baker used to be adamant that all foreign teams are pronounced in English .... so 'Ajax' ... not 'Ai-ax' ... 'Paris Saint Germane' ... not 'Parh-ee Saahn Jairman'.

How about you?

Is Bordeaux pronounced 'Bor-dukes' or 'Bohr-derh'?

Is Sporting Gijon pronounced 'Sporting Gee-John' or 'Sporting Hi-hon'?

Is Lech Poznan pronounced 'Letch Poznan' or 'Lheck Pos-nanyeh'?'
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  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,605
    I was going to say the english version, but as I started to type I realised that I use some of the foreign -
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,686
    Depends on the language.

    So the literal answer to the question is "both."
  • Chirpy Red
    Chirpy Red Posts: 7,587
    edited April 2011
    Just go the opposite to what the BBC say, the department that have renamed the capital of Bahrain MAN-NA-MA opposed to MANA-MA as it is. Ryhmes with Panama not PAN-NA-MA!
  • Saga Lout
    Saga Lout Posts: 6,845
    How do I pronounce foreign team names? Badly!

    Where did Paulo go when he left us - never could get that one right.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,140
    No rules to this. However I feel like is the answer, so I probably please no-one.

    Used to say Ajax but have since come around to Eye Axe

    Paris (it must always have the s) San Jer Man

    Bored Oh

    Sporting Gee-John

    Leck Poznan

    And for the record it should always be New Camp, never never never Camp Nou!
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,769
    I never know how to pronounce Bessone - the announcer says Bess-own but should it be Bess-oney?
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,087
    Bess - on
  • LawrieAbrahams
    LawrieAbrahams Posts: 3,780
    Looks like an Italian name so I'd have thought, Bess - o - nay
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,769
    I think he is Spanish!
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,853
    With a terrible foreign accent.

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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,140
    Rasson (with the merest hint of 'n') not Rackon
  • LawrieAbrahams
    LawrieAbrahams Posts: 3,780
    [cite]Posted By: ME14addick[/cite]I think he is Spanish!

    He's from Argentina, where they speak Spanish, but there is no double ess in Spanish so it's probably an Italian surname (as is Messi).
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,333
    I pronouce Ajax as Rochdale, Boca Juniors as Sideboard and Bayern Munich as Bayern Munich.
  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,875
    Has to be Besson-eh.

    Strictly it's 'Yera' too (not L-era'), but that feels like a step too far.
  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,875
    [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]I pronouce Ajax as Rochdale, Boca Juniors as Sideboard and Bayern Munich as Bayern Munich.

    So what happens when Ajax play Rochdale? Could happen in the Champions League in a few years time.
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,917
    edited April 2011
    If we're doing foreign names as well-

    Da-vid Viyy-a not Dayvid Viller
    Rrr..aooooool not Raul (as in Paul)
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,090
    Joe Zay or Hose Ay?
  • Chirpy Red
    Chirpy Red Posts: 7,587
    [cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]Joe Zay or Hose Ay?

    Spainish Hose Ay, Portugese Joe Zay.
  • EpsomAddick
    EpsomAddick Posts: 2,572
    Speaking as someone who loves foreign languages and hopes to study 2 of them at uni (German and Spanish) I always feel you should pronounce foreign names/teams as closely to the natives as possible, out of respect for their language if nothing else.

    The pronunciation that bugs me the most is QPR's Alejandro Faurlin - his surname should be pronounced fower-lean but everyone seems to say Forlan, as in Diego.

    I'm not sure about Bessone, it most probably is an Italian name but the Italians would say the e on the end as well as the Spanish so it may well be Besson-eh.
  • Saga Lout
    Saga Lout Posts: 6,845
    Jew-vent-os?

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  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,875
    [cite]Posted By: EpsomAddick[/cite]Speaking as someone who loves foreign languages and hopes to study 2 of them at uni (German and Spanish) I always feel you should pronounce foreign names/teams as closely to the natives as possible, out of respect for their language if nothing else.

    Now you fall neatly into my trap ....


    So do you say 'Nyer'cassel' in a mock-Geordie accent?

    Or 'Ah-rrreksaam' in pseudo-Welsh?
  • EpsomAddick
    EpsomAddick Posts: 2,572
    Languages and accents are different things Dave ;)

    Perhaps if I were in Newcastle or Wrexham I would adopt the accent to blend in (or to mock them)
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    [cite]Posted By: Saga Lout[/cite]Jew-vent-os?
    Chee-ting Sc-um
  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,875
    [cite]Posted By: EpsomAddick[/cite]Languages and accents are different things Dave ;)

    Perhaps if I were in Newcastle or Wrexham I would adopt the accent to blend in (or to mock them)

    Is Welsh an accent then?

    And I thought that Geordie was variant on Norwegian/Swedish etc.

    Ah divvent knaa.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,205
    What about just getting names of teams right? Sporting Club Portugal, not Sporting Lisbon; Internazionale not Inter Milan and either Bayern Munchen or Barvaria Munich, mixing the two languages is just daft. Which is why I am as guilty as anyone...
  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,875
    [cite]Posted By: Algarveaddick[/cite]What about just getting names of teams right? Sporting Club Portugal, not Sporting Lisbon; Internazionale not Inter Milan and either Bayern Munchen or Barvaria Munich, mixing the two languages is just daft. Which is why I am as guilty as anyone...

    My favourite is 'Real'.

    I lived in Madrid for six months. The team is 'Madrid'. Whenever I hear the 'new footballistas' on Sky talking about 'Real', I can't help hearing some broad Brummie referring to his beloved team as 'Aston' or some stripey Nigel singing "Come on, Crystal".
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,090
    edited April 2011
    Which team is Madrid? Athletico or Real?
  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,875
    [cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]Which team is Madrid? Athletico or Real?

    Three teams in Madrid. You forgot Rayo Vallecano.
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    [cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]Which team is Madrid? Athletico or Real?

    Three teams in Madrid. You forgot Rayo Vallecano.
    and Heh-taff-eh
  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,875
    [cite]Posted By: colthe3rd[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Dave Rudd[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: WSS[/cite]Which team is Madrid? Athletico or Real?

    Three teams in Madrid. You forgot Rayo Vallecano.
    and Heh-taff-eh

    Not sure about that. I thought Getafe was a separate town.

    It's outside the M-40, so I'm not sure that counts as Madrid.