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Nathan Jones speculation - Cawley says indications are no chance Jones going to Cardiff (p20)
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I think we should agree a huge fee for Jones, with Cardiff and let him join them on a permanent deal straight away.
That way, we'll be able to re-appoint him for nothing when they sack him just before pre-season starts.3 -
Thanks Rich in you we trust1
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Didn’t know Jim rodwell played dartsshirty5 said:RonnieMoore said:
Been saying that since the ridiculous posts started don’t need Cawley to confirm it ..social media is dangerous to many people believe everything they read common sense goes out the window .. then its the old Chinese whispers but on a massive scale …..Bedsaddick said:
Thanks Mr Cawley Sadly it still won't stop people wetting the bed on this thread .shirty5 said:
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Nathan Jones 1/2
Aarron Ramsey 6/4
Lovely business to be in if you can lay those two at those prices and make a profit doing that let alone if someone else gets the job. £10 moves those market and perhaps, for those reasons, we should take those odds with a pinch of salt. Each backer at those prices must be almost certain that he is getting the job given those odds for Jones and Ramsey suggest that one has a 67% chance and the other a 40% chance of getting it.
With that in mind, I will recount a story from years ago. I used to work with the cousin of a candidate for a high profile managerial position. He was told that his cousin had the job and that there was going to be a final meeting to sort out the small print. So he lumped on and single handedly moved the Betfair market (which bookies will take notice of). Now, when I say "lump on", we are talking life savings, overdraft, anything he could get his hands on in fact.
Then he and others heard, over the course of a weekend, that there was a stumbling block in those discussions. And that candidate drifted and drifted. Panic set in to the extent that he felt compelled to lay him in the Betfair market to try and get some money back at much bigger prices too as the drift continued. His book was as deep a colour of red he could have been. On the Monday his cousin was appointed manager and he was left with, instead of a substantial profit, a big loss.
Nothing is certain until a manager actually signs on the dotted line. Neither Jones nor Ramsey are probably anywhere near doing that even if those prices suggest they are.
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Not sure that's the case.Gravesend_Addick said:Starting to look like this rumour has some legs but I still can't see it.
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And Smith @AnonymousAddick must score...0
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We should all pile in with 50p bets either on Nathan to get the job and move the market even more, or back somebody not already in the running.and wind up another club’s fansAddick Addict said:Nathan Jones 1/2
Aarron Ramsey 6/4
Lovely business to be in if you can lay those two at those prices and make a profit doing that let alone if someone else gets the job. £10 moves those market and perhaps, for those reasons, we should take those odds with a pinch of salt. Each backer at those prices must be almost certain that he is getting the job given those odds for Jones and Ramsey suggest that one has a 67% chance and the other a 40% chance of getting it.
With that in mind, I will recount a story from years ago. I used to work with the cousin of a candidate for a high profile managerial position. He was told that his cousin had the job and that there was going to be a final meeting to sort out the small print. So he lumped on and single handedly moved the Betfair market (which bookies will take notice of). Now, when I say "lump on", we are talking life savings, overdraft, anything he could get his hands on in fact.
Then he and others heard, over the course of a weekend, that there was a stumbling block in those discussions. And that candidate drifted and drifted. Panic set in to the extent that he felt compelled to lay him in the Betfair market to try and get some money back at much bigger prices too as the drift continued. His book was as deep a colour of red he could have been. On the Monday his cousin was appointed manager and he was left with, instead of a substantial profit, a big loss.
Nothing is certain until a manager actually signs on the dotted line. Neither Jones nor Ramsey are probably anywhere near doing that even if those prices suggest they are.
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Oh Richie Cawley you are the love of my life
Oh Richie Cawley, I'd let you shag my wife
Oh Richie Cawley, I'll be a Fulham fan toooooo7 -
Richard Cawley repels Charlton Life Jones-to-Cardiff hysteria
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He’s repeatedly talked about learning from experiences at Southampton and Stoke and having to rebuild his reputation from going into the wrong situation or not being given time to build something. While he’s emotional, he’s also ambitious and an intelligent guy a Cardiff move now would be a huge risk to his rebuilt reputation IMO very boom or bust. I just can’t see him taking that risk.10
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Right, the way I see it now is that if Jones signs for Cardiff this afternoon we all gather round Cawleys house for a lynching.10
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Rock Spectacle said:Anyone ever met a poor bookie...
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Once the great Cardiff Jones saga is finally tucked in with a bedtime story and a warm glass of milk, we can all return to a glorious summer of social media 'in-the-knowers' confidently announcing our next transfer, debating whether someone’s wife fancies a move to Woolwich, and of course—because it's tradition—leaking payslips on X like it’s a Premier League HR department. Can’t wait!3
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soapboxsam said:AFKABartram said:Well all know one way or another in the next couple of days.
ASAP.
And after some obscure social media outlet, possibly a 6th former in his bedroom, states Sunderland want Ramsey we can move on to that speculation 🤦🏻♂️
There is no interest from Sunderland for those of you who didn't understand my post and are demanding a refund on your Ramsey Scarves 🤷🏻♂️0 -
Can this stupid story stop distracting our manager and the recruitment team now.
We're supposed to just be signing players while the squad go on holiday.
Nathan jones, agent curbs and kieth peacock should be in Nigeria pulling up outside the home of the next 18 year old yaya toure with a pen and paper in their hand.
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Have we suddenly decided that bookies are in the know and made a choice to completely ignore the fact that odds are dictated by where the money is being placed?Red_Chester said:
Just searched to see if anyone has odds up for our next manager and all I saw was when Jones was appointed for us he was 1/2 “which implies a 66% chance of it happening”….gulpcarly burn said:1/2 Now with most bookies.4 -
I don’t think for one minute these owners think last seasons league 1 budget will be sufficient in the championship and I have every faith they will support the manager.AnonymousAddick said:Don’t shoot the messenger hearing that jones could only be moving if he doesn’t get what was promised. According to my source the board are only offering a league one budget currently and of course if there is no ambition from the club I personally don’t blame him for walking. Oxford United had the lowest budget last year and spent 5 million in all my years of supporting Charlton I can’t remember spending near that. Serious questions ly with the board if you ask me wouldn’t judge any stories coming out when something deeper could be pushing the deal closer.
These guys have serious money and while I don’t expect the club to be in the top 10 budgets I can see some decent investment being made in the squad.3 -
Has this club ever had a more prolific finisher than Cawley at the back post?11
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If this has all stemmed from a Tweet to stir shit up by Paul Abbandonato then what an arsehole.I hate social media.6
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Now Cawley has confirmed NJ will stay it's just a shame that Ramsey, L Jones and Coventry are all off to Cardiff for £500K instead.17
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The exact same thing happened the last time there was a vacancy at Cardiff, I'm sure it'll happen again and again tooValley11 said:If this has all stemmed from a Tweet to stir shit up by Paul Abbandonato then what an arsehole.I hate social media.
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Never worried, not in the slightest
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Love it when a shitey journo has to cover his shitey tracksFoxycafc said:7 -
Athletico Charlton said:Now Cawley has confirmed NJ will stay it's just a shame that Ramsey, L Jones and Coventry are all off to Cardiff for £500K instead.
👏🏼We need to laugh but be Careful Athletico, you will be accused of being childish.
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Cheers rich! Can we close this thread now?2
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https://x.com/DarrenOWitcoop/status/1929472434840756597?t=yRXxUDbgb3j5jPnTujZZLg&s=19
Let's see what the other source now has to say as well and if he back peddles as shamelessly as that.
Cawley as reliable as it gets, but I'll still worry a bit until Cardiff appoint someone.
Chris Wilder interviewed here and agreed to join before Sheffield United heard the news and took him. Never know what could change.9 -
Not quite the same.Braziliance said:https://x.com/DarrenOWitcoop/status/1929472434840756597?t=yRXxUDbgb3j5jPnTujZZLg&s=19
Let's see what the other source now has to say as well and if he back peddles as shamelessly as that.
Cawley as reliable as it gets, but I'll still worry a bit until Cardiff appoint someone.
Chris Wilder interviewed here and agreed to join before Sheffield United heard the news and took him. Never know what could change.3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKqfwPxP8vM&t=68s
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