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POST-MATCH THREAD: Sheffield Utd v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 20th September 2025 KO 15:00

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  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,485
    Isn't winning this without the assist but hopefully gives him confidence. Bell or Doc have been cheated 😂


  • Scoham said:
    I ended up not making it, first league/ play off game I’ve missed since Orient on 1st March a 21 game run which felt noteworthy after many years of much less consistent attendance inspired by our dire run

    was away in poncy country hotel with missus and friends and was hoping to whiz up on Saturday morning but hangover + she wasn’t gonna have it meant they all got to sit in some posh lounge bar whilst I streamed it. Went embarrassingly mental when the winner went in. Was very jealous of the rainy away end looked class 

    agreed with poster who said tantos finish was poor, when he struck it I was already for a split second getting ready to erupt in a different way with yet more frustration as it looked like it was gonna bounce back off the keeper, should’ve been putting that well into the corner / top corner miles from the keeper but don’t give a shit, well in mate and I like Tanto and would like to see a bit more of him

    TC frustrated the hell out of me, he is so effective in driving us up the pitch and wins free kicks etc and so important in many ways but Jesus his end product, so frustrating his shooting, crossing and passing, and he’s so slow to make a pass or cross - doesn’t seem like the right partner for Kelman who wants an early ball. Wouldn’t mind seeing Apter there with Bree who seems very good in the RWB role

    we should have scored sooner, continuing worry is the lack of quality in final third, fluctuating between thinking that is gonna have us scrapping for our lives Vs we’re just a whisker/ bit of finessing away from being a play off contender 

    leaburn made a big difference, seems to be following in his fathers footsteps of polarising support but I love him, brilliant first header for the goal and although he might have scored that one that broke to him he at least struck it well unlike the pansy shots from TC and Kelman earlier on

    Bell has been one of my favourite players of the season. Ramsays left footed twin brother, and without the cringe instagram videos 
    He's learning from Kayne...

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOyap6hDNzF
    Hopefully all the good things...😉
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,458
    3/6 clean sheets is way better than what I expected from the start of the season and I think it could be crucial in the Champ.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    I may be misreading things, it is a gut feeling, and I think Jones doesn't want to make a song or dance of it but he thinks we can make the play offs. 
    Absolutely not. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited September 21
    Talal said:
    Isn't winning this without the assist but hopefully gives him confidence. Bell or Doc have been cheated 😂
    To be fair, most of our creativity came from Bree in the match.

    Wasn't he the one who put in the cross for Jones' header that was expertly saved by Cooper, and then again put in the cross that Docherty headed over?
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    Dazzler21 said:
    I'm surprised at some of our ratings this week. I thought we were generally quite poor, but better than them. 
    As always, the result massively colours the view and the ratings. Look at some of the comments on the match thread before we scored. If the keeper had kept out Tanto’s shot you’d be seeing lower scores. 
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,485
    Talal said:
    Isn't winning this without the assist but hopefully gives him confidence. Bell or Doc have been cheated 😂
    To be fair, most of our creativity came from Bree in the match.

    Wasn't he the one who put in the cross for Jones' header that was expertly saved by Cooper, and then again put in the cross that Docherty headed over?
    Coventry put in the cross for Jones. Not sure on the other.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,898
    Steven81 said:
    I hope those critics  of Docherty, who said he wouldn't be good enough for the Championship, are enjoying their humble pie. 
    I'm having that humble pie for breakfast,lunch and dinner today. I will freely admit to being one of his detractors at times this season and honestly thought he was the weak link but today at that game he was immense never stopped running and close with bell for me for man of the match, I'm happy he is proving me and others wrong Atm that's football for ya I still wish we had another option on the bench say or starting that brings a little more quality from that area but if it's working it's working and I'm not the manager.I'd also like to add about some of the comments before the match of people saying we are gonna get stuffed or being soo negative before we had even kicked a ball that's laughable tbh and there's some humble pie there aswell,the away support was amazing we believed, the team believed and  Nathan did and that's what u need against any team your playing.
    And me and im chuffed about it coz he's always had the right attitude even last year when he looked very very limited but been very impressed by him this year - looks sharper and getting on top of his opponent/s a lot more - also pleased that bree did well coz if i'm honest i 'm a bit concerned about apter's lack of physicality. What i'm convinced about is this division isn't the super league that people kept saying it is - or had become in the 5 years since we were last in it. There's a lot of teams that go straight through it in one direction or another and i'm not writing off the possibility of us being one of them this season - unlikely but not ruling it out. COYR !!!!!!!!!
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    JaShea99 said:
    3/6 clean sheets is way better than what I expected from the start of the season and I think it could be crucial in the Champ.
    What I liked looking at the stats is Sheff Utd only had 1 shot on target.

    We had 13 shots each but we had 4 on target.

    The defensive side of our team is obviously our strength, but it’s exciting to think how much better we’ll look if we improve going forward and 2 or 3 attacking players really nail down starting spots as their own. 
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  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,485
    Not sure I understand the point that Bree wouldn't have won MOM without the best touch and assist we've seen in the opposition box this season.

    That assist sets the bar for first touch, control, head-up awareness, and execution of a pass in attacking areas.
    I just prefer to look at the whole performance rather than a moment when it comes to man of the match. Not that it really matters.
  • I love this title of 'Game changer' so often referred to by Nathan.

    Tanto spoke about it in his interview, 'the game changers to come on after 60 minutes'.  I can just imagine players demanding to know why they're not starting, only to be told, 'Because you're the game changer'!  What kudos that title holds ... especially when you go out and actually do it!
    We used to have one game changer.
    Chuks bless him, would get eased out of his wheelchair on 60 minutes usually to see if he could help to salvage a point from a losing position.
    We now appear to have a bench full of "game changers".
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,252
    I love this title of 'Game changer' so often referred to by Nathan.

    Tanto spoke about it in his interview, 'the game changers to come on after 60 minutes'.  I can just imagine players demanding to know why they're not starting, only to be told, 'Because you're the game changer'!  What kudos that title holds ... especially when you go out and actually do it!
    We used to have one game changer.
    Chuks bless him, would get eased out of his wheelchair on 60 minutes usually to see if he could help to salvage a point from a losing position.
    We now appear to have a bench full of "game changers".
    We have a squad of 20 outfield players without an obvious weak link amongst them. Some have not quite proven themselves yet at Champ level, but there is nobody to groan about as starters or subs. This is a massive improvement from 18 months ago.
  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 999
    edited September 21
    Chunes said:
    That dummy and pass from Bree is exactly the kind of quality and composure we've been missing in the final third this season. 
    Totally agree about composure it's something we lack at times snatching at shots or maybe not choosing the right pass at times but as we grow into the season I think it will get better as the players start to believe more and realise these players we are up against we are as good as them and the confidence grows.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,035
    Already concerned that we won’t be able to extend Bree’s loan/sign him in January! 
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  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 607
    edited September 21
    I love this title of 'Game changer' so often referred to by Nathan.

    Tanto spoke about it in his interview, 'the game changers to come on after 60 minutes'.  I can just imagine players demanding to know why they're not starting, only to be told, 'Because you're the game changer'!  What kudos that title holds ... especially when you go out and actually do it!
    We used to have one game changer.
    Chuks bless him, would get eased out of his wheelchair on 60 minutes usually to see if he could help to salvage a point from a losing position.
    We now appear to have a bench full of "game changers".
    Hate the term "game changers". If they can "change" a game for you from the bench why aren't they playing from the start....then you could win the game comfortably.

    Imagine Jimmy Greaves, Glen Hoddle, Gazza, Maradona being sat on the bench for 80 mins & only getting a 10 min cameo because they are so good they can affect the game in such a small amount of time.

    Say it as it is. They are players you throw on when you need a point (or 3) and the other 11 players haven't managed to do it for you in the first 80 mins. Desperation stakes is what I call it.

    (Its ok, I'll get back into my box now)
    Is a squad game now, that's why there are 9 subs sitting on the bench.
    In Jimmy Greaves' day there was only one or no subs, so the best 11 would always start.
    Times change and NJ seems to understand this well enough
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,906
    I love this title of 'Game changer' so often referred to by Nathan.

    Tanto spoke about it in his interview, 'the game changers to come on after 60 minutes'.  I can just imagine players demanding to know why they're not starting, only to be told, 'Because you're the game changer'!  What kudos that title holds ... especially when you go out and actually do it!
    We used to have one game changer.
    Chuks bless him, would get eased out of his wheelchair on 60 minutes usually to see if he could help to salvage a point from a losing position.
    We now appear to have a bench full of "game changers".
    Hate the term "game changers". If they can "change" a game for you from the bench why aren't they playing from the start....then you could win the game comfortably.

    Imagine Jimmy Greaves, Glen Hoddle, Gazza, Maradona being sat on the bench for 80 mins & only getting a 10 min cameo because they are so good they can affect the game in such a small amount of time.

    Say it as it is. They are players you throw on when you need a point (or 3) and the other 11 players haven't managed to do it for you in the first 80 mins. Desperation stakes is what I call it.

    (Its ok, I'll get back into my box now)
    Cheers mate do you want us to open the lid for you ?
  • se9addick said:
    Already concerned that we won’t be able to extend Bree’s loan/sign him in January! 
    Think he's out of contract at Southampton in 2026, and is on a good wedge, but would be a real coup if we were to get him on a perm in Jan...
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,220
    JaShea99 said:
    3/6 clean sheets is way better than what I expected from the start of the season and I think it could be crucial in the Champ.
    Joint highest in the Championship so far. 


  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,519
    We were so good aerially for that winner let alone the control, touch, cross and then finish. 

    Absolutely amazing atmosphere. Bell was my MOTM with Doc and Bree a close second. 
  • We were so good aerially for that winner let alone the control, touch, cross and then finish. 

    Absolutely amazing atmosphere. Bell was my MOTM with Doc and Bree a close second. 
    It was such a well worked goal, it almost looked like it could have been something planned in a training session.
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,802
    Scoham said:
    I ended up not making it, first league/ play off game I’ve missed since Orient on 1st March a 21 game run which felt noteworthy after many years of much less consistent attendance inspired by our dire run

    was away in poncy country hotel with missus and friends and was hoping to whiz up on Saturday morning but hangover + she wasn’t gonna have it meant they all got to sit in some posh lounge bar whilst I streamed it. Went embarrassingly mental when the winner went in. Was very jealous of the rainy away end looked class 

    agreed with poster who said tantos finish was poor, when he struck it I was already for a split second getting ready to erupt in a different way with yet more frustration as it looked like it was gonna bounce back off the keeper, should’ve been putting that well into the corner / top corner miles from the keeper but don’t give a shit, well in mate and I like Tanto and would like to see a bit more of him

    TC frustrated the hell out of me, he is so effective in driving us up the pitch and wins free kicks etc and so important in many ways but Jesus his end product, so frustrating his shooting, crossing and passing, and he’s so slow to make a pass or cross - doesn’t seem like the right partner for Kelman who wants an early ball. Wouldn’t mind seeing Apter there with Bree who seems very good in the RWB role

    we should have scored sooner, continuing worry is the lack of quality in final third, fluctuating between thinking that is gonna have us scrapping for our lives Vs we’re just a whisker/ bit of finessing away from being a play off contender 

    leaburn made a big difference, seems to be following in his fathers footsteps of polarising support but I love him, brilliant first header for the goal and although he might have scored that one that broke to him he at least struck it well unlike the pansy shots from TC and Kelman earlier on

    Bell has been one of my favourite players of the season. Ramsays left footed twin brother, and without the cringe instagram videos 
    He's learning from Kayne...

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOyap6hDNzF
    Oh.

    at least that is slightly more all encompassing than the Ramsay highlights reels, but still - not for me
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,802
    but still a big Bell fan anyway
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,220
    edited September 21
    I love this title of 'Game changer' so often referred to by Nathan.

    Tanto spoke about it in his interview, 'the game changers to come on after 60 minutes'.  I can just imagine players demanding to know why they're not starting, only to be told, 'Because you're the game changer'!  What kudos that title holds ... especially when you go out and actually do it!
    We used to have one game changer.
    Chuks bless him, would get eased out of his wheelchair on 60 minutes usually to see if he could help to salvage a point from a losing position.
    We now appear to have a bench full of "game changers".
    Hate the term "game changers". If they can "change" a game for you from the bench why aren't they playing from the start....then you could win the game comfortably.

    Imagine Jimmy Greaves, Glen Hoddle, Gazza, Maradona being sat on the bench for 80 mins & only getting a 10 min cameo because they are so good they can affect the game in such a small amount of time.

    Say it as it is. They are players you throw on when you need a point (or 3) and the other 11 players haven't managed to do it for you in the first 80 mins. Desperation stakes is what I call it.

    (Its ok, I'll get back into my box now)
    You're saying Knibbs against Watford and Tanto against Sheffield were not game changers? Even though they both came off the bench to score the winning goal. It's not desperation, it's having a strong squad!

    You write so much, so often, here, but rarely actually make any sense. 
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,802
    https://x.com/itvfootball/status/1969494836693627096

    love this interview from Tanto. Can see he's absolutely beaming from inside, what a moment for the lad and for the team as a whole, hopefully a result like that in front of 30k in a recent prem ground - this will add to their belief and make them realise they and we belong at this level and keep driving them on