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POST-MATCH THREAD: Portsmouth vs Charlton Athletic - Monday 29th December 2025 - 7:45pm Kick-Off
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I have never warmed to Ollie Watkins for the simple fact he missed a really, really easy one-on-one against Barnsley on the final game of that season! He can score really hard chances against the Netherlands in the Euros though FFS!Garrymanilow said:Worth remembering when Nathan Jones took over at Luton in 2020 they were dead and buried. By 8th July after they’d only managed to draw with Barnsley they were 24th and 5 points adrift of Charlton in 21st with 4 games to go. After the final whistle on the last day they were 19th and 3 points clear of Charlton after 3 wins and a draw; we were relegated. Championship seasons will go right down to the wire and no-one is safe or relegated until the end. Plenty of time to go, plenty of things to change.4 -
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If you watch the highlights of that Ipswich game the ref gestures to their players that he is adding time as they celebrated both their goals for over a minute each.golfaddick said:
See Ipswich (H) 3 seasons ago. 2-2 going into "injury" time and they made it 3-2 just as the board was going up. Cant remember how many mins were held up (4 or 5 ?) But we equalised to make it 4-4 after 90+9Callumcafc said:Still an unbelievable chain of events.
How you score an equaliser at 95:56 and still lose when the ref only added 5 mins on in the first place is crazy.0 -
As I said on his thread, he got an assist and won the most duels of anyone on the pitch. Beyond scoring what more do you want from a target man?YTS1978 said:6 -
Just the 17 headers won last night as well as winning just about the most headed duels in the Championship (don’t quote me on that but don’t think he’s far off..)YTS1978 said:
He also set up the goal along with one of Kelman’s chances in the first half.
Most of the balls to him are lumped to his head so not too sure what else he’s supposed to do? And we don’t play with wingers so aren’t exactly creating the kind of chances he would thrive on.
Whilst I don’t necessarily think he’s quite ready to be leading the line in the Champ, I do think he puts in a good shift most weeks and the stick he gets from some quarters takes me back to the early 90s when his Dad used to get it every week. It always makes me smile when some of the youngsters on social media say that he’s living off Carl’s reputation. Righto!
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Well, I must be wrong based on stats then! I would add that winning a header is one thing, but directing it to a team mate or in the general direction of one is another thing entirely. Miles divides opinion but i'd love him to do well. I honestly dont see it though. 90% of the time hes just strolling around and very rarely breaks into a sprint. Would be very happy if he gets a goal Thursday. Its frustrating as hes got it in his locker but we very rarely see it.
Edit. I get both the previous comments btw. Its all about opinions. COYA4 -
I'm not sure there is a striker anywhere in the world that regularly nods down long balls to a teammate. Is that the point of winning first contact?1
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You seem to have more happen to you every game than I have in years.AS1987 said:
Very noticeable for me at our last two games.The Red Robin said:
Behaviour and types of fan have been in decline post-Covid. People have forgotten how to behave in public.boggzy said:
On last night's showing it honestly wouldn't surprise me if we had more wong'uns at games now than Millwall. The amount of geared-up grim-looking inbreds was off the scale. A scrap between ours behind the goal had to be broken up then another nearly broke out. All ready to boil over. Been getting more and more over the years, as oohaah says: the c**t-filter appears to have broken down somewhat.oohaahmortimer said:Mrs and petrolhead got back half hour ago , she said there was coked up pissed wallys standing in front few rows who were a pain and it was as bad as Birmingham away for the fuckedupness of our support .
She said there were loads of envelopes with the duplicated tickets when she got hers , there’s too many for them all to have gone missing in the post , I think our ticket office does as good as it can but it’s basically fucking shit, much like our team !
To top it all that viral video in the corner features your archetypal trainspotter weirdo Charlton types - and you don't get anything of the scenes and sense of celebration from being in the thick of the main throng once the equaliser went in. Or the disbelief not long after. Why the fuck did that even get uploaded?! We're the bloody laughing stock at the moment - unforgivable the team simply switched off and waited for the final whistle.
FFS
Norwich: A couple were standing on the left hand side of an escalator. I said 'Excuse me please.'. They didn't step to a space on the right and just laughed. Once we reached the top and they all went their own way, their friend (who was stood to their right on the escalator) shouted 'Scum' at me.
Portsmouth: I walked past a Portsmouth fan (not even remotely close to brushing past him) and he almost burst into tears at seeing somebody walking faster than him. He shouted at me, telling me that he hoped I died.
I see people blaming the government-imposed restrictions for this a lot, but it's often people in their late 20s behaving like this, so they should have developed social skills long before people were isolated.
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Bit of a stretch?carly burn said:
That's a bit of a stretch.Braziliance said:Where to even start..
- Subs on the 84th minute?!
- Style of play
- The lack of character to not keep them out
- The lack of skill on display.
This football is AWFUL to watch, absolutely awful. There can be no excuses about injuries, every team has injuries, and truly the only player who we really miss right now is Edwards.
That win vs Oxford should have galvanised us. Beating Norwich and Pompey would have virtually guaranteed us safety, as they would have had to much to do to catch us, and our home form is too decent to drop the points. Instead we didn't turn up for one, and absolutely bottled it in the other.
We have 5 players who are Championship standard. 6 at a push, if we want to stay up, these owners will need to spend every single penny. There is not a chance we stay up with this current style of play, no way.
If we do by some miracle, it's cause other teams done us a favour, not our results from this point onwards.
Sickening, sickening result. Let's see if Pompey can bounce off of it like we didn't, and fortunately Norwich didn't either.
Nathan Jones. Please, for the love of God, drop the 5 at the back! We don't have the wing backs for it.
Mannion (Kaminski is pants)
Bree - Jones - Burke - Bell
Knibbs - Coventry - Costello
Apter - Kelman - TC
Run at some of these teams as our old way has run it's course.
More like complete bollocks.
33 points has never in history virtually guaranteed safety.4 -
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Have just read Players Marks thread. I posted the following, which is is more suited here, as that's not a discussion thread.
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These are not my scores, but I've just noticed this on the BBC match report. I'm somewhat baffled by the (imo) bizarre low scores for our players.Portsmouth 2-1 Charlton Athletic
Player Scores:Portsmouth
Yang Min-Hyeok :8.72Shaughnessy :8.58
Devlin :8.08
Swanson :7.72
Poole :7.63
Schmid :7.56
Dozzell :7.46
Matthews :7.26
Pack :7.24
Blair :7.07
Segecic :7.07
Kirk :6.93
Kosznovszky :6.67
Bowat :6.63
Umeh :6.35
Chaplin :6.19
Charlton
Burke : 4.05
Leaburn : 4.05
Kaminski : 4.05
Knibbs : 3.95
Bree : 3.94
Jones : 3.86
Rankin-Costello : 3.67
Coventry : 3.63
Apter : 3.63
Gillesphey : 3.47
Bell : 3.44
Berry : 3.42
Carey : 3.21
Kelman : 2.87
Campbell : 2.84
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It is not done by public vote? Loads of happy Portsmouth supporters and pissed off Charlton supporters will skew that somewhat…Powell2ThePeople said:Have just read Players Marks thread. I posted the following, which is is more suited here, as that's not a discussion thread.
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These are not my scores, but I've just noticed this on the BBC match report. I'm somewhat baffled by the (imo) bizarre low scores for our players.Portsmouth 2-1 Charlton Athletic
Player Scores:Portsmouth
Yang Min-Hyeok :8.72Shaughnessy :8.58
Devlin :8.08
Swanson :7.72
Poole :7.63
Schmid :7.56
Dozzell :7.46
Matthews :7.26
Pack :7.24
Blair :7.07
Segecic :7.07
Kirk :6.93
Kosznovszky :6.67
Bowat :6.63
Umeh :6.35
Chaplin :6.19
Charlton
Burke : 4.05
Leaburn : 4.05
Kaminski : 4.05
Knibbs : 3.95
Bree : 3.94
Jones : 3.86
Rankin-Costello : 3.67
Coventry : 3.63
Apter : 3.63
Gillesphey : 3.47
Bell : 3.44
Berry : 3.42
Carey : 3.21
Kelman : 2.87
Campbell : 2.84
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That’s why Sonny Carey has been playing like shite for the last 8-9 games,worn himself out with all that shagging…😣Bailey said:
Will agree with most of that, but and its a big but. Nobody was complaining about the style of play in the first 15 games, 15 games that got us 23 points. We still haven't operated with a full squad since the Millwall game, I am open to challenge on that by the way and I'm not including Godden in that statement. Last night we were missing Ramsay and Edwards, nobody is guaranteed a place in the starting eleven but I'd wager most on here would have them in their starting eleven. Gillesphey actually regained his place due in part to the long term injury to Edwards and we know Gillie' isn't the quickest so when Bell pulled up we then have tried every permutation to cover him, which is now almost settled on Tyreece Campbell, reducing our attacking threat and forcing us to use Miles as a target man and hitting long balls up to him. Those changes have also seen a drop in form for Sonny Carey, a player, who was lined up to shag everyone's wife in the first 15 games.Braziliance said:Where to even start..
- Subs on the 84th minute?!
- Style of play
- The lack of character to not keep them out
- The lack of skill on display.
This football is AWFUL to watch, absolutely awful. There can be no excuses about injuries, every team has injuries, and truly the only player who we really miss right now is Edwards.
That win vs Oxford should have galvanised us. Beating Norwich and Pompey would have virtually guaranteed us safety, as they would have had to much to do to catch us, and our home form is too decent to drop the points. Instead we didn't turn up for one, and absolutely bottled it in the other.
We have 5 players who are Championship standard. 6 at a push, if we want to stay up, these owners will need to spend every single penny. There is not a chance we stay up with this current style of play, no way.
If we do by some miracle, it's cause other teams done us a favour, not our results from this point onwards.
Sickening, sickening result. Let's see if Pompey can bounce off of it like we didn't, and fortunately Norwich didn't either.
Nathan Jones. Please, for the love of God, drop the 5 at the back! We don't have the wing backs for it.
Mannion (Kaminski is pants)
Bree - Jones - Burke - Bell
Knibbs - Coventry - Costello
Apter - Kelman - TC
Run at some of these teams as our old way has run it's course.
We have only just got Kelman, Burke and Bell back, see where we are when Ramsay and Edwards are back, I think it will allow us to have a better picture of the side, with a couple of additions, we may start climbing.4 -
Callumcafc said:
It is not done by public vote? Loads of happy Portsmouth supporters and pissed off Charlton supporters will skew that somewhat…Powell2ThePeople said:Have just read Players Marks thread. I posted the following, which is is more suited here, as that's not a discussion thread.
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These are not my scores, but I've just noticed this on the BBC match report. I'm somewhat baffled by the (imo) bizarre low scores for our players.Portsmouth 2-1 Charlton Athletic
Player Scores:Portsmouth
Yang Min-Hyeok :8.72Shaughnessy :8.58
Devlin :8.08
Swanson :7.72
Poole :7.63
Schmid :7.56
Dozzell :7.46
Matthews :7.26
Pack :7.24
Blair :7.07
Segecic :7.07
Kirk :6.93
Kosznovszky :6.67
Bowat :6.63
Umeh :6.35
Chaplin :6.19
Charlton
Burke : 4.05
Leaburn : 4.05
Kaminski : 4.05
Knibbs : 3.95
Bree : 3.94
Jones : 3.86
Rankin-Costello : 3.67
Coventry : 3.63
Apter : 3.63
Gillesphey : 3.47
Bell : 3.44
Berry : 3.42
Carey : 3.21
Kelman : 2.87
Campbell : 2.84
Not according to the PM thread though. Which is why I mentioned it. Just seems way off.
And if if it's not done by public vote, how is it done?
If the numbers were anywhere close to the overall consensus on the PM thread (including my own view), I wouldn't be posting about it.
But never paid any attention to it before. 🤔 🤷🏻1 -
No it's not.carly burn said:
That's a bit of a stretch.Braziliance said:Where to even start..
- Subs on the 84th minute?!
- Style of play
- The lack of character to not keep them out
- The lack of skill on display.
This football is AWFUL to watch, absolutely awful. There can be no excuses about injuries, every team has injuries, and truly the only player who we really miss right now is Edwards.
That win vs Oxford should have galvanised us. Beating Norwich and Pompey would have virtually guaranteed us safety, as they would have had to much to do to catch us, and our home form is too decent to drop the points. Instead we didn't turn up for one, and absolutely bottled it in the other.
We have 5 players who are Championship standard. 6 at a push, if we want to stay up, these owners will need to spend every single penny. There is not a chance we stay up with this current style of play, no way.
If we do by some miracle, it's cause other teams done us a favour, not our results from this point onwards.
Sickening, sickening result. Let's see if Pompey can bounce off of it like we didn't, and fortunately Norwich didn't either.
Nathan Jones. Please, for the love of God, drop the 5 at the back! We don't have the wing backs for it.
Mannion (Kaminski is pants)
Bree - Jones - Burke - Bell
Knibbs - Coventry - Costello
Apter - Kelman - TC
Run at some of these teams as our old way has run it's course.
Those two wins would have put us on 33 points and had Pompey on 22, Norwich on 18. Game in hand against Pompey.
You really think we will throw away a 15 point gap on Norwich and potentially a 14 on Pompey if we beat them at the Valley?
The magnitude of those games is being heavily understated. They were on par with promotion games.
Now there is no such thing as free hits anymore, they've all run out.
If we had won those games, we probably could have afforded the losses away and the odd draw while relying on home form, now we are going to have to go to places like Boro and Saints away and avoid defeat.
Glad people are relaxed that we have just lost 7 out of 9, 2 of the losses against absolutely woeful teams. Wonder if we will be this relaxed if we go down and the fixtures come out for Northampton and Wigan away again.
Those 2 results were unacceptable, completely unacceptable.7 -
Southampton, Stoke, Wrexham, Leicester, Derby, Birmingham, all on between 31-34 points.Covered End said:
Bit of a stretch?carly burn said:
That's a bit of a stretch.Braziliance said:Where to even start..
- Subs on the 84th minute?!
- Style of play
- The lack of character to not keep them out
- The lack of skill on display.
This football is AWFUL to watch, absolutely awful. There can be no excuses about injuries, every team has injuries, and truly the only player who we really miss right now is Edwards.
That win vs Oxford should have galvanised us. Beating Norwich and Pompey would have virtually guaranteed us safety, as they would have had to much to do to catch us, and our home form is too decent to drop the points. Instead we didn't turn up for one, and absolutely bottled it in the other.
We have 5 players who are Championship standard. 6 at a push, if we want to stay up, these owners will need to spend every single penny. There is not a chance we stay up with this current style of play, no way.
If we do by some miracle, it's cause other teams done us a favour, not our results from this point onwards.
Sickening, sickening result. Let's see if Pompey can bounce off of it like we didn't, and fortunately Norwich didn't either.
Nathan Jones. Please, for the love of God, drop the 5 at the back! We don't have the wing backs for it.
Mannion (Kaminski is pants)
Bree - Jones - Burke - Bell
Knibbs - Coventry - Costello
Apter - Kelman - TC
Run at some of these teams as our old way has run it's course.
More like complete bollocks.
33 points has never in history virtually guaranteed safety.
Do you think any of them are going down with only needing approx 18 points from 23 games?
Don't say my post is bollocks, when you are taking it too literal. Of course you would go down if you hit 33 pts and then didn't win again, that is very obviously not what I mean.
Bookies odds:
Soton 300/1
Brum 250/1
Stoke 150/1
Wrexham 50/1
Leicester 12/1 (potential points deduction)
Charlton, 13/2 now.
But I'm talking bollocks? Alright then. I wish I was. If you don't think those two games were season defining, then I don't know what to tell you.
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Subs don't determine how much money you make on youtube, once you are on 1k and 1000 watch hours and become 'partnered' it just comes down to views on videos and revenue from adverts.CAFCsayer said:
1.7k subscribers is not paying any bills... Looking for clickbait out of us getting dicked on in the last minute by a relegation rival is poor formJohnnyH2 said:
If he was to ever hit a video with let's say 50k, that would be some very healthy change, very unlikely in this space though, but subs don't always translate to views.
No one is paying any bills doing Charlton content though (unless you work for the club or around it), you're in it for the wrong reasons if you are just thinking about money on vlogging.
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It did in the Woolwich and District league in 1977. We stayed up in the senior 2nd division and some other pub team went down!Covered End said:
Bit of a stretch?carly burn said:
That's a bit of a stretch.Braziliance said:Where to even start..
- Subs on the 84th minute?!
- Style of play
- The lack of character to not keep them out
- The lack of skill on display.
This football is AWFUL to watch, absolutely awful. There can be no excuses about injuries, every team has injuries, and truly the only player who we really miss right now is Edwards.
That win vs Oxford should have galvanised us. Beating Norwich and Pompey would have virtually guaranteed us safety, as they would have had to much to do to catch us, and our home form is too decent to drop the points. Instead we didn't turn up for one, and absolutely bottled it in the other.
We have 5 players who are Championship standard. 6 at a push, if we want to stay up, these owners will need to spend every single penny. There is not a chance we stay up with this current style of play, no way.
If we do by some miracle, it's cause other teams done us a favour, not our results from this point onwards.
Sickening, sickening result. Let's see if Pompey can bounce off of it like we didn't, and fortunately Norwich didn't either.
Nathan Jones. Please, for the love of God, drop the 5 at the back! We don't have the wing backs for it.
Mannion (Kaminski is pants)
Bree - Jones - Burke - Bell
Knibbs - Coventry - Costello
Apter - Kelman - TC
Run at some of these teams as our old way has run it's course.
More like complete bollocks.
33 points has never in history virtually guaranteed safety.3 -
You are running a close second behind Unlucky Alf from the Fast Show with the bad luck you have been having since November away from homeAS1987 said:
Very noticeable for me at our last two games.The Red Robin said:
Behaviour and types of fan have been in decline post-Covid. People have forgotten how to behave in public.boggzy said:
On last night's showing it honestly wouldn't surprise me if we had more wong'uns at games now than Millwall. The amount of geared-up grim-looking inbreds was off the scale. A scrap between ours behind the goal had to be broken up then another nearly broke out. All ready to boil over. Been getting more and more over the years, as oohaah says: the c**t-filter appears to have broken down somewhat.oohaahmortimer said:Mrs and petrolhead got back half hour ago , she said there was coked up pissed wallys standing in front few rows who were a pain and it was as bad as Birmingham away for the fuckedupness of our support .
She said there were loads of envelopes with the duplicated tickets when she got hers , there’s too many for them all to have gone missing in the post , I think our ticket office does as good as it can but it’s basically fucking shit, much like our team !
To top it all that viral video in the corner features your archetypal trainspotter weirdo Charlton types - and you don't get anything of the scenes and sense of celebration from being in the thick of the main throng once the equaliser went in. Or the disbelief not long after. Why the fuck did that even get uploaded?! We're the bloody laughing stock at the moment - unforgivable the team simply switched off and waited for the final whistle.
FFS
Norwich: A couple were standing on the left hand side of an escalator. I said 'Excuse me please.'. They didn't step to a space on the right and just laughed. Once we reached the top and they all went their own way, their friend (who was stood to their right on the escalator) shouted 'Scum' at me.
Portsmouth: I walked past a Portsmouth fan (not even remotely close to brushing past him) and he almost burst into tears at seeing somebody walking faster than him. He shouted at me, telling me that he hoped I died.
I see people blaming the government-imposed restrictions for this a lot, but it's often people in their late 20s behaving like this, so they should have developed social skills long before people were isolated.
Wrexham and Coventry away and now the two over Christmas
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Conor Coventry has been poor for weeks now.Chunes said:Interestingly, out of the 41 sets of player marks submitted so far, only one person has given Conor Coventry a higher score than MoM Rankin-Costello... Who could it be?
The DM’s of the better teams in the league really control the games and look to pass forwards much more.1 -
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Maybe he's being asked to keep it simple? If Jones said to him he wants him to turn and look for a forward pass at every opportunity, then I'm sure that's what we'd be seeing.CafcSteve said:
Conor Coventry has been poor for weeks now.Chunes said:Interestingly, out of the 41 sets of player marks submitted so far, only one person has given Conor Coventry a higher score than MoM Rankin-Costello... Who could it be?
The DM’s of the better teams in the league really control the games and look to pass forwards much more.1 -
I’ve had a few days to calm down and reflect following the game against Pompey!It’s not the end of the world like some are making out, granted it’s a been a worrying dip in form however we are 5 points clear of Oxford with a game in hand (against Pompey at home) we play 9 of 15 games at home between Feb & April, I’ve been glass half empty over the past few weeks but think we will be fine with some quality reinforcements in Jan and Josh Edwards coming back in soon.2
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tangoflash said:We seem to be the only club in the championship that doesn't have a diminutive tricky Asian
Is Mickey Rooney still available?
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what would posses you to post that if you'd taken the videocarly burn said:0 -
Sometimes there is so much space for him to turn into and play forwards, but he just passes the ball back. I don't know if that can be instructions, or someone giving him a shout that he's got time, or if it's a side of his game that he could improve. Dobbo got much better at that as time went on so I'm sure he can too.Talal said:
Maybe he's being asked to keep it simple? If Jones said to him he wants him to turn and look for a forward pass at every opportunity, then I'm sure that's what we'd be seeing.CafcSteve said:
Conor Coventry has been poor for weeks now.Chunes said:Interestingly, out of the 41 sets of player marks submitted so far, only one person has given Conor Coventry a higher score than MoM Rankin-Costello... Who could it be?
The DM’s of the better teams in the league really control the games and look to pass forwards much more.1 -
Absolutely.PragueAddick said:
It‘s good that you - who was there - inject a note of realism into this part of the fiasco. So we absolutely cannot use it as an excuse. On the other hand it always gets raised because nobody knows how the fuck it is being worked out, and we should know, we just need to copy and adapt how its done in ice hockey. I just don’t see this level of confusion on the Continent either. It’s quite common for the first half to have no stoppage time here. Last night we had a minute. For what? Then in the second half: around 80 mins Tel and Brownie ponder how much there will be and both agree there were significant stoppages, so 7-8 mins. 5 was shocking. Of course I get the irony, if there had been 8 we wouldnt be having this discussion. Except that maybe we wouldnt have switched off as we did. Knibbs goal went in on 5.50 according to Cawley. @Callumcafc said it took 10 seconds from restart for the Pompey winner.oohaahmortimer said:
stoppage time started nearly 30 seconds late they chewed up a load more and we celebrated our goal chewing up more there was no problem with the timing .... there will be a minimum of 5 mins additional timeMuttleyCAFC said:I know I have a natural bias but the ref was a bit too helpful to them. Yes, we are fragile but we have to stick with Nathan and the lads. We will come through it that way. The ref played 5 minutes when it should have been 9. There were some stopages in added time but not more than a minute and a half tops. It was like he didn't give us enough time, but when we equalised he gave more time. That goal was last gasp and should have been the end of it. Look he is not a cheat but he was a homer. There were long stoppages in normal time and he played 5 mins and he played that again for the added time. Ridiculous.We absolutely cannot blame this farcical defeat on the timekeeping per se. But we pay enough to expect clarity. How do we get it?- clear statement by the FA about what is added on for what. e.g. subs. There is this legend that its 30 secs per sub. Is it a rule? What if 3 subs come on at the same time?- give the time monitoring responsibility to the 4th officlal, or a separate one. Free up the ref to make decisions, not having to constantly recall how much time he adds on
- wire up the 4th officials time keeping device to the stadium clock. He stops, the clock stops, we all see it, in game. When it gets to 90.00, big electronic whistle blasts. No chance for the ref to “ just see what happens from this corner”.
There, I feel better now. Marginally.
Isn’t it crazy that in one match there’s a stoppage for 3+ minutes to measure if one player’s big knob was sticking out more than another’s overgrown toenail, and in another match a winning corner or penalty can be given in mystery added time.0 -
There was a long stoppage between about 82 and 85 for a “injury” (keeper feigning) which was at least 2 minutes, probably 3. Basically a drinks break. That must’ve been 2.5 mins alone plus all the subs + the Pompey goal, so it’s hard to understand how only 5 were added to the 90 at the beginning of the added time - especially when they then allowed an extra 3 minutes just on top of the 5!Not that it changes how pathetic it was to concede from the kick off2
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There is no benefit/relevance in comparing 5 teams to us that are (at present) clearly better than us.Braziliance said:
Southampton, Stoke, Wrexham, Leicester, Derby, Birmingham, all on between 31-34 points.Covered End said:
Bit of a stretch?carly burn said:
That's a bit of a stretch.Braziliance said:Where to even start..
- Subs on the 84th minute?!
- Style of play
- The lack of character to not keep them out
- The lack of skill on display.
This football is AWFUL to watch, absolutely awful. There can be no excuses about injuries, every team has injuries, and truly the only player who we really miss right now is Edwards.
That win vs Oxford should have galvanised us. Beating Norwich and Pompey would have virtually guaranteed us safety, as they would have had to much to do to catch us, and our home form is too decent to drop the points. Instead we didn't turn up for one, and absolutely bottled it in the other.
We have 5 players who are Championship standard. 6 at a push, if we want to stay up, these owners will need to spend every single penny. There is not a chance we stay up with this current style of play, no way.
If we do by some miracle, it's cause other teams done us a favour, not our results from this point onwards.
Sickening, sickening result. Let's see if Pompey can bounce off of it like we didn't, and fortunately Norwich didn't either.
Nathan Jones. Please, for the love of God, drop the 5 at the back! We don't have the wing backs for it.
Mannion (Kaminski is pants)
Bree - Jones - Burke - Bell
Knibbs - Coventry - Costello
Apter - Kelman - TC
Run at some of these teams as our old way has run it's course.
More like complete bollocks.
33 points has never in history virtually guaranteed safety.
Do you think any of them are going down with only needing approx 18 points from 23 games?
Don't say my post is bollocks, when you are taking it too literal. Of course you would go down if you hit 33 pts and then didn't win again, that is very obviously not what I mean.
Bookies odds:
Soton 300/1
Brum 250/1
Stoke 150/1
Wrexham 50/1
Leicester 12/1 (potential points deduction)
Charlton, 13/2 now.
But I'm talking bollocks? Alright then. I wish I was. If you don't think those two games were season defining, then I don't know what to tell you.
Yes of course those two defeats may be season defining.
I don't agree "that beating Norwich & Portsmouth would have virtually guaranteed us safety".
It would have been a massive positive, but in no way would we be sitting here today virtually guaranteed safety on 33 points.
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Given NJ doesn’t care about possession stats or pretty passing out from the back I can’t imagine he wants Coventry to keep possession with simple passes?Chunes said:
Sometimes there is so much space for him to turn into and play forwards, but he just passes the ball back. I don't know if that can be instructions, or someone giving him a shout that he's got time, or if it's a side of his game that he could improve. Dobbo got much better at that as time went on so I'm sure he can too.Talal said:
Maybe he's being asked to keep it simple? If Jones said to him he wants him to turn and look for a forward pass at every opportunity, then I'm sure that's what we'd be seeing.CafcSteve said:
Conor Coventry has been poor for weeks now.Chunes said:Interestingly, out of the 41 sets of player marks submitted so far, only one person has given Conor Coventry a higher score than MoM Rankin-Costello... Who could it be?
The DM’s of the better teams in the league really control the games and look to pass forwards much more.
I think it’s more creative passing isn’t his game, which can also be said for most if not all our midfielders.
There’s probably an argument he’d show it more if we had more of the ball and better movement and quality in front of him though.2 -
Ludicrous.Powell2ThePeople said:Have just read Players Marks thread. I posted the following, which is is more suited here, as that's not a discussion thread.
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These are not my scores, but I've just noticed this on the BBC match report. I'm somewhat baffled by the (imo) bizarre low scores for our players.Portsmouth 2-1 Charlton Athletic
Player Scores:Portsmouth
Yang Min-Hyeok :8.72Shaughnessy :8.58
Devlin :8.08
Swanson :7.72
Poole :7.63
Schmid :7.56
Dozzell :7.46
Matthews :7.26
Pack :7.24
Blair :7.07
Segecic :7.07
Kirk :6.93
Kosznovszky :6.67
Bowat :6.63
Umeh :6.35
Chaplin :6.19
Charlton
Burke : 4.05
Leaburn : 4.05
Kaminski : 4.05
Knibbs : 3.95
Bree : 3.94
Jones : 3.86
Rankin-Costello : 3.67
Coventry : 3.63
Apter : 3.63
Gillesphey : 3.47
Bell : 3.44
Berry : 3.42
Carey : 3.21
Kelman : 2.87
Campbell : 2.84
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