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Should we play our strongest team against Chelsea?

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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,666
    Should play the first-team. Imagine it will be a lot of squad players' only opportunity to play against one of the top sides in the country. 
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,567
    edited January 7
    I famously disrespect all cup competitions, so I'm in the "be careful who you pick" camp. My biggest worry is at CB, where you've got Ramsay, Burke, and Bell all dealing with/coming back from injury (in fact, Burke and Ramsay may not be fit to feature). As such, I think giving Gough a run out is the way to go there. And then Bell played three 90 minutes after coming back from injury so I'd be tempted to give him a rest. Lloyd Jones and Connor Coventry have played a lot of football lately, and the latter looked knackered second half against Rovers, so might be tempted to rest one or two of them.

    I take the point about players wanting to play against the biggest teams, and I think a lot of ours will be up for it. I would just be very cautious. It's really hard to say definitively without knowing who is carrying a knock and who is in the red zone in terms of minutes/fatigue.

    I do think Jones will go with a strong side, I just expect some players will be held back.

    .......Kaminski
    Gough Jones (C) Bell
    Bree Coventry JRC TC
    ...........Knibbs
    ...Leaburn Kelman

    That's not necessarily the team I would pick, that's just what I think Jones will do. For me, the league is everything. 
  • Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch Posts: 1,984
    Having watched the Godden video, the only exception I'd make to having a fully first choice matchday squad would be to have him on the bench. I'm not being defeatist, but the liklihood is the game is over late on, and he'll get far easier minutes coming on in that situation than he'd get in a league game. If the game is still in the balance, don't bring him on at all.

    This all supposes Godden is ready to be reintroduced, and he probably won't be. But you never know.
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 13,293
    Can someone tell me who is in our strongest team? 
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,892
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    Can someone tell me who is in our strongest team? 
    It’s the one that Nathan picks and it wins. If he picks a team that doesn’t win then you’ll know it wasn’t our strongest team. 😉
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,299
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Fumbluff said:
    Yes, in order to lose by the least amount

    We have bigger fish to fry, if we get beat and we can avoid injuries where players are needed for the more important league fixtures.

    Said like a man watching from the other side of the world - bollox if I want to waste my Saturday night watching our reserves get spanked against their reserves 
  • RoanRedNY
    RoanRedNY Posts: 1,191
    Yeah,  we should play 16 of em, all on the pitch at the same time.  6-6-3 should work
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,339
    SDAddick said:
    I famously disrespect all cup competitions, so I'm in the "be careful who you pick" camp. My biggest worry is at CB, where you've got Ramsay, Burke, and Bell all dealing with/coming back from injury (in fact, Burke and Ramsay may not be fit to feature). As such, I think giving Gough a run out is the way to go there. And then Bell played three 90 minutes after coming back from injury so I'd be tempted to give him a rest. Lloyd Jones and Connor Coventry have played a lot of football lately, and the latter looked knackered second half against Rovers, so might be tempted to rest one or two of them.

    I take the point about players wanting to play against the biggest teams, and I think a lot of ours will be up for it. I would just be very cautious. It's really hard to say definitively without knowing who is carrying a knock and who is in the red zone in terms of minutes/fatigue.

    I do think Jones will go with a strong side, I just expect some players will be held back.

    .......Kaminski
    Gough Jones (C) Bell
    Bree Coventry JRC TC
    ...........Knibbs
    ...Leaburn Kelman

    That's not necessarily the team I would pick, that's just what I think Jones will do. For me, the league is everything. 
    No way should bell be playing... I wouldn't even play Jones or Coventry as they're too important, although they will probably be wanting to play. Any first teamers who are injury prone should be getting a rest 100% though
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,567
    CAFCsayer said:
    SDAddick said:
    I famously disrespect all cup competitions, so I'm in the "be careful who you pick" camp. My biggest worry is at CB, where you've got Ramsay, Burke, and Bell all dealing with/coming back from injury (in fact, Burke and Ramsay may not be fit to feature). As such, I think giving Gough a run out is the way to go there. And then Bell played three 90 minutes after coming back from injury so I'd be tempted to give him a rest. Lloyd Jones and Connor Coventry have played a lot of football lately, and the latter looked knackered second half against Rovers, so might be tempted to rest one or two of them.

    I take the point about players wanting to play against the biggest teams, and I think a lot of ours will be up for it. I would just be very cautious. It's really hard to say definitively without knowing who is carrying a knock and who is in the red zone in terms of minutes/fatigue.

    I do think Jones will go with a strong side, I just expect some players will be held back.

    .......Kaminski
    Gough Jones (C) Bell
    Bree Coventry JRC TC
    ...........Knibbs
    ...Leaburn Kelman

    That's not necessarily the team I would pick, that's just what I think Jones will do. For me, the league is everything. 
    No way should bell be playing... I wouldn't even play Jones or Coventry as they're too important, although they will probably be wanting to play. Any first teamers who are injury prone should be getting a rest 100% though
    Agreed, I was more thinking what I think Jones will start with rather than what I would start with. My team would look drastically different, although I don't know who I'd have in the middle of defense instead of Lloyd Jones.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,756
    CAFCsayer said:
    SDAddick said:
    I famously disrespect all cup competitions, so I'm in the "be careful who you pick" camp. My biggest worry is at CB, where you've got Ramsay, Burke, and Bell all dealing with/coming back from injury (in fact, Burke and Ramsay may not be fit to feature). As such, I think giving Gough a run out is the way to go there. And then Bell played three 90 minutes after coming back from injury so I'd be tempted to give him a rest. Lloyd Jones and Connor Coventry have played a lot of football lately, and the latter looked knackered second half against Rovers, so might be tempted to rest one or two of them.

    I take the point about players wanting to play against the biggest teams, and I think a lot of ours will be up for it. I would just be very cautious. It's really hard to say definitively without knowing who is carrying a knock and who is in the red zone in terms of minutes/fatigue.

    I do think Jones will go with a strong side, I just expect some players will be held back.

    .......Kaminski
    Gough Jones (C) Bell
    Bree Coventry JRC TC
    ...........Knibbs
    ...Leaburn Kelman

    That's not necessarily the team I would pick, that's just what I think Jones will do. For me, the league is everything. 
    No way should bell be playing... I wouldn't even play Jones or Coventry as they're too important, although they will probably be wanting to play. Any first teamers who are injury prone should be getting a rest 100% though
    If we didn’t play Jones or Bell we’d get thrashed by most championship teams, Chelsea could get near double figures 

    With a sell out crowd we are going to want to put out a strong team, and there’s a full week until our next league game so plenty of recovery time

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  • holyjo
    holyjo Posts: 1,339
    Well Chelsea got beat tonight so all the pressure on them on Saturday 
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 27,302
    I'm less gung-ho than most of you. While I'd like to see us put out a strong team, I also wouldn't want to risk anyone who's been nursing an injury, for fear of losing them for the upcoming league games, so I'd be tempted to leave Bell on the bench. That said, it'll also be interesting to see if Southampton let Bree play, as that might give some indication as to whether he's staying or going back, and if he's out then presumably Apter will be in on that side, which'll mean we'll be defensively light on both sides, so probably couldn't afford to leave Bell out.
  • KettsJohn
    KettsJohn Posts: 1,277
    My biggest concern is Bell. He is so important to us and I wouldn't risk him with two massive home games this month and then a trip to our friends up the road which of course we should win 😉
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,757
    My biggest concern is Chelsea snapping up any of our players who shine too brightly against them. The team selection should bear that in mind.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 973
    Need to Protect Bell and Jones. Bree already playing through injury that’s affecting his performances so he needs a rest other than that play the best team 
  • Arthur_Trudgill
    Arthur_Trudgill Posts: 517
    se9addick said:
    Arthur_Trudgill said:
    Around a week's rest either side of the match.

    Our players will be keen to face Chelsea.

    Chelsea should be just as keen to avoid injuries.

    They won't play their strongest squad.

    Home advantage.

    100% play a squad to win it.
    I think they’ll put out a decent side, certainly better than the team Maresca likely would have picked as Rosenoir won’t want to take any chances in his first match.
    If I had to guess I'd say Liam Rosenior respects the FA Cup, so he would want to start with a decent XI.

    But my understanding is that Chelsea as a club are cautious about injuries in case it upsets their player trading.

    So I'm hoping that they'll want to protect their top talent for that and for the PL/Carabao Cup, and therefore that they will not start their best team.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,620
    Arthur_Trudgill said:
    se9addick said:
    Arthur_Trudgill said:
    Around a week's rest either side of the match.

    Our players will be keen to face Chelsea.

    Chelsea should be just as keen to avoid injuries.

    They won't play their strongest squad.

    Home advantage.

    100% play a squad to win it.
    I think they’ll put out a decent side, certainly better than the team Maresca likely would have picked as Rosenoir won’t want to take any chances in his first match.
    If I had to guess I'd say Liam Rosenior respects the FA Cup, so he would want to start with a decent XI.

    But my understanding is that Chelsea as a club are cautious about injuries in case it upsets their player trading.

    So I'm hoping that they'll want to protect their top talent for that and for the PL/Carabao Cup, and therefore that they will not start their best team.
    Chelsea won't be thinking about injuries.

    They will rotate for freshness because they played tonight, and play Arsenal next Wednesday in the EFL Cup. And because their 2nd 11 is still worth well over £100m. Gittens cost £48.5m for example.
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,773
    no - rest our key players - this game is ultiamtely irrelevan to the absulutely crucial task of staying up - give Jones and Bell a rest 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,927
    msomerton said:
    Arthur_Trudgill said:
    Around a week's rest either side of the match.

    Our players will be keen to face Chelsea.

    Chelsea should be just as keen to avoid injuries.

    They won't play their strongest squad.

    Home advantage.

    100% play a squad to win it.

    No we should put the bit players on, Chelsea`s U21 would beat our first choice team. So i see no reason why we should risk more injuries and more player fatigue . Given our precarious position in the league it would be foolish i these circumstances,  league survival comes first.
    What is all this player fatigue? They are young, fit athletes playing one game a week, and they will be desperate to play.

    Do they, unbeknown to me, have the same disease that Andy Hunt had?
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 11,284
    For those saying leave out Jones and Bell. With no Ramsay or Burke either …… what are you suggesting? We barely have any other defenders.

    You can’t exactly play Gough and Macca and that’s it. Thats never gonna happen

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,285
    mascot88 said:
    no - rest our key players - this game is ultiamtely irrelevan to the absulutely crucial task of staying up - give Jones and Bell a rest 
    If we rest Bell and Jones we’ll get absolutely hammered. Look what happens against ordinary Championship sides down our left when Bell isn’t playing. 

    Unless either aren’t 100% on match day then I’d start both, there is a full week the other side to recover.
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,148
    Yes you bloody well should.  Its Chelsea FFS.

    Happy to help :)
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,597
    Play a decent eleven and avoid humiliation.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,757
    Some of our fans suggesting we rest half the defence are absolutely on one, the whole reason why we don't rotate the defence right now is because we don't have enough defenders! 

    Bree, Jones, Bell are nailed on to play because with Ramsay, Burke and Edwards all out the only other defenders we have are Gough, Gillesphey and Laqeratebua! 

    You wanna pay 30+ a ticket to watch that back 3?!
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,991
    edited January 8
    I'd imagine L Jones and others would be absolutely livid if they were rested for this. 
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,141
    sam3110 said:
    Some of our fans suggesting we rest half the defence are absolutely on one, the whole reason why we don't rotate the defence right now is because we don't have enough defenders! 

    Bree, Jones, Bell are nailed on to play because with Ramsay, Burke and Edwards all out the only other defenders we have are Gough, Gillesphey and Laqeratebua! 

    You wanna pay 30+ a ticket to watch that back 3?!
    Well may be the club should have had the transfers in sorted by the time the window opened. So now we are faced with playing players who should be rested for this game because of bad planning. 

  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,589
    edited January 8
    My biggest concern would be passing up a rare opportunity to have a proper go at one of the bigger clubs in an FA Cup tie.


  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,039
    Thankfully Jones won't be listening to people on here saying rest players. He will play the strongest team possible and rightly so.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,757
    msomerton said:
    sam3110 said:
    Some of our fans suggesting we rest half the defence are absolutely on one, the whole reason why we don't rotate the defence right now is because we don't have enough defenders! 

    Bree, Jones, Bell are nailed on to play because with Ramsay, Burke and Edwards all out the only other defenders we have are Gough, Gillesphey and Laqeratebua! 

    You wanna pay 30+ a ticket to watch that back 3?!
    Well may be the club should have had the transfers in sorted by the time the window opened. So now we are faced with playing players who should be rested for this game because of bad planning. 

    Or maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't sign 3 or 4 new defenders if the 3 out are all close to a return?! 

    But you crack on with the negativity mate, and I'll go back to ignoring you, cos across every thread on here that you crop up on, all you spout is doom and gloom, and it's boring 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,927
    msomerton said:
    sam3110 said:
    Some of our fans suggesting we rest half the defence are absolutely on one, the whole reason why we don't rotate the defence right now is because we don't have enough defenders! 

    Bree, Jones, Bell are nailed on to play because with Ramsay, Burke and Edwards all out the only other defenders we have are Gough, Gillesphey and Laqeratebua! 

    You wanna pay 30+ a ticket to watch that back 3?!
    Well may be the club should have had the transfers in sorted by the time the window opened. So now we are faced with playing players who should be rested for this game because of bad planning. 

    I think you’re living in cloud cuckoo land. The January transfer window is notoriously difficult and I don’t expect to get anyone decent in. The problem is that it blocks the system up. Clubs are unwilling to let someone go because if they have injuries after it closes they won’t then be able to get someone in themselves.

    I’ll repeat this again: get rid of transfer windows. 

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