Collins Sichenje Signs On A Three And A Half Year Deal
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Been really thrown in at the deep end with a start at Southampton away, and then replacing Jones as middle centre back last night. Have to say he’s coped with it really well considering that’s 2 tough situations to be thrown into as his first games in English football20
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hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Only watched the extended highlights on Sky. Seems likely he will pick up plenty of cards and concede free kicks...
Exactly what I was thinking. He reminded me of the defenders for Cameroon in the 1990 World Cup in Italy.
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Mendonca In Asdas said:Our club shop needs to get creative with our overseas scarves, market them online, name of player / country they represent internationally.
I know the geyser outside the ground is very rapid to change stock, from one thing to another, but you could do the marketing directly to his country, which is a much bigger market.
I think he's based in Tottenham actually.............
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Looked good, nice to have some pace and desire to look after the ball and not just try and aimlessly hoof it up field.0
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When NJ emerges at the start of a game with a black eye we'll know he's tried to have words with Collins about his "desire to look after the ball and not just try and aimlessly hoof it up field"scruffle said:Looked good, nice to have some pace and desire to look after the ball and not just try and aimlessly hoof it up field.
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"We never lose
When Collins plays"
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Who won MOTM btw last night?1
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I quite like what i've seen so far from Collins0
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Not really getting people seeming pleasantly surprised by this fella, The club firstly have seen fit to pay a bit of money for the guy, he’s been playing in a foreign country to him which led to international football(some will say but it’s Kenya,ok🤷🏻♂️) were people expecting him to have to be taught to play football? Hence the standard for young foreign guy quotes of being raw? I’d say he’s a more than competent footballer settling in nicely.5
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100% agree with this. I also noted his distribution out from the back a couple of times when he was trying to make a creative move forward. We haven’t had anyone doing that for a while now.AndyG said:I thought he did really well last night, feared the worst when Lloyd had to go off but he stepped in great. Also love the occasions when he played the ball through on the ground rather than smash it high it’s like he actually tries to play football. I questioned why we were paying £1.8m for an unknown kid when we signed him but I really think he will develop into a decent player and I suspect he will be sold for a very good profit2 -
Overall, I think he looks like a good prospect, albeit a little rough around the edges, and I am pleased people are exercising patience with him because the financial outlay was still quite significant (for us) and can envision this being held against him if things start to go wrong. He has made a couple of vital clearances and interceptions over the last two games, but it's his blocks that impress me the most. He seems to get in the way of everything.
There are, however, a few areas of his game that concern me slightly. Maybe I'm just being a bit picky!
I like his aggression, but it worries me. The tackle for the booking yesterday was unnecessary. I believe it was Maja who was trapped in the corner and not going anywhere, and he was half a second late. How he didn't get booked against Sunderland is beyond me. However, he did make two or three brilliant aggressive tackles that stymied the opposition; so it's a bit of a tightrope act as you don't want to temper him too much.
He played a couple of nice forward passes last night, but I recall at least one 'line drive' pass that he tried to smash into Dykes. Steve Brown noted it on the commentary as well. I think he did this at least twice against Southampton. I like that he's confident enough to attempt these types of passes, but they are incredibly unlikely to come off and a bit risky.
He got caught out underneath the flight of the ball late on and made a mess of a clearance. He also had a really poor header late on that he shanked into touch, indicating he was a bit indecisive. What I love about L Jones is his decisiveness. It's a bit unfashionable to clear the ball rather than try to play it, but it works. Jones gets up, wins the ball, and clears it. I dislike it when players try to keep it in for the sake of it or try to play backwards when off balance and end up putting us in trouble (Chambers did this yesterday).
Lots to be positive about. If he has to start Saturday it will be another huge test against, for my money, one of the best strikers in the league.
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Probably because he didn't play against Sunderland.elbiglad said:Overall, I think he looks like a good prospect, albeit a little rough around the edges, and I am pleased people are exercising patience with him because the financial outlay was still quite significant (for us) and can envision this being held against him if things start to go wrong. He has made a couple of vital clearances and interceptions over the last two games, but it's his blocks that impress me the most. He seems to get in the way of everything.
There are, however, a few areas of his game that concern me slightly. Maybe I'm just being a bit picky!
I like his aggression, but it worries me. The tackle for the booking yesterday was unnecessary. I believe it was Maja who was trapped in the corner and not going anywhere, and he was half a second late. How he didn't get booked against Sunderland is beyond me. However, he did make two or three brilliant aggressive tackles that stymied the opposition; so it's a bit of a tightrope act as you don't want to temper him too much.
He played a couple of nice forward passes last night, but I recall at least one 'line drive' pass that he tried to smash into Dykes. Steve Brown noted it on the commentary as well. I think he did this at least twice against Sunderland. I like that he's confident enough to attempt these types of passes, but they are incredibly unlikely to come off and a bit risky.
He got caught out underneath the flight of the ball late on and made a mess of a clearance. He also had a really poor header late on that he shanked into touch, indicating he was a bit indecisive. What I love about L Jones is his decisiveness. It's a bit unfashionable to clear the ball rather than try to play it, but it works. Jones gets up, wins the ball, and clears it. I dislike it when players try to keep it in for the sake of it or try to play backwards when off balance and end up putting us in trouble (Chambers did this yesterday).
Lots to be positive about. If he has to start Saturday it will be another huge test against, for my money, one of the best strikers in the league.
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I'd say it's more surprise that he's come in so quickly and already looks at home - I think most people (including me) expected him to be eased in a bit more gently, but he's stepped in straight away and looked pretty comfortable.Sword65pf said:Not really getting people seeming pleasantly surprised by this fella, The club firstly have seen fit to pay a bit of money for the guy, he’s been playing in a foreign country to him which led to international football(some will say but it’s Kenya,ok🤷🏻♂️) were people expecting him to have to be taught to play football? Hence the standard for young foreign guy quotes of being raw? I’d say he’s a more than competent footballer settling in nicely.
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Impressed so far. Pretty rapid when needed and an eye for a pass as others have stated. This will be a big step up in quality from where he has played before so he will take time to read the pace of the game. If we can temper the aggression a little so he doesn't dive in like the yellow card foul then we have a real prospect on our hands.
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Yes I expected a slow burner with him at first, but then a couple of quotes intimated he was ready and it looks that way.thenewbie said:
I'd say it's more surprise that he's come in so quickly and already looks at home - I think most people (including me) expected him to be eased in a bit more gently, but he's stepped in straight away and looked pretty comfortable.Sword65pf said:Not really getting people seeming pleasantly surprised by this fella, The club firstly have seen fit to pay a bit of money for the guy, he’s been playing in a foreign country to him which led to international football(some will say but it’s Kenya,ok🤷🏻♂️) were people expecting him to have to be taught to play football? Hence the standard for young foreign guy quotes of being raw? I’d say he’s a more than competent footballer settling in nicely.0 -
Thrown into the deep end in 2 big games, and did well. Throws himself in front of everything. Pace is king. Shocked how young he still is. If Bell can teach him a little patience I think he can be a great player for us. A joy to watch.2
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He appears to have every physical attribute you would want in a defender - pace, height, committed and in general a serious athlete? He will learn the positioning, reading of the game, and guile playing alongside a great defender like Jones. Collins has the potential to achieve legend status, as long as we can keep him if he does add all those attributes to his game.From first impressions it would seem to be a very good bit of scouting.5
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If NJ decided to go against his instincts and play four at the back I think Jones and Sinchenje have the makings of a good centre back pairing.bobmunro said:He appears to have every physical attribute you would want in a defender - pace, height, committed and in general a serious athlete? He will learn the positioning, reading of the game, and guile playing alongside a great defender like Jones. Collins has the potential to achieve legend status, as long as we can keep him if he does add all those attributes to his game.From first impressions it would seem to be a very good bit of scouting.1 -
Didn't watch last night but by all accounts he did well. On paper I fancy him more for one of the outside CB roles rather than the middle one. I think Burke is a more natural replacement for Jones if he is out longer. But if Collins can nail the slot down he will certainly bring more to the role.1
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I disagree, I think his aggression is just what you want from your central CB and is one of Lloyd’s strongest attributes. You want your outside CB to be capable of playing FB which clearly isn’t his fortecantersaddick said:Didn't watch last night but by all accounts he did well. On paper I fancy him more for one of the outside CB roles rather than the middle one. I think Burke is a more natural replacement for Jones if he is out longer. But if Collins can nail the slot down he will certainly bring more to the role.2 -
His pace is a massive plus in the middle also, which is why I think he would compliment jones as a pair, and both aggresive.fenaddick said:
I disagree, I think his aggression is just what you want from your central CB and is one of Lloyd’s strongest attributes. You want your outside CB to be capable of playing FB which clearly isn’t his fortecantersaddick said:Didn't watch last night but by all accounts he did well. On paper I fancy him more for one of the outside CB roles rather than the middle one. I think Burke is a more natural replacement for Jones if he is out longer. But if Collins can nail the slot down he will certainly bring more to the role.1 -
Let’s upgrade the whole team in the summer and have pace, power, height and ball playing ability everywhere!
Or is that too much to ask?10 -
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If we manage to find some affordable options: 2 at CM, 2 wingers and 1 lwb 1 rwb with collins type athleticism and desire to win/keep the ball and 50+ professional games under their belt. It will be a very interesting season next year!!elbiglad said:
We all dream of a team of SichenjesScoham said:Let’s upgrade the whole team in the summer and have pace, power, height and ball playing ability everywhere!
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We've had recent signings who've spent their whole career in England who look like they need to be taught to play football, so i don't think it's that far fetched that some people thought this guy might take a while to settle in.Sword65pf said:Not really getting people seeming pleasantly surprised by this fella, The club firstly have seen fit to pay a bit of money for the guy, he’s been playing in a foreign country to him which led to international football(some will say but it’s Kenya,ok🤷🏻♂️) were people expecting him to have to be taught to play football? Hence the standard for young foreign guy quotes of being raw? I’d say he’s a more than competent footballer settling in nicely.0 -
Fair pointChris_from_Sidcup said:
We've had recent signings who've spent their whole career in England who look like they need to be taught to play football, so i don't think it's that far fetched that some people thought this guy might take a while to settle in.Sword65pf said:Not really getting people seeming pleasantly surprised by this fella, The club firstly have seen fit to pay a bit of money for the guy, he’s been playing in a foreign country to him which led to international football(some will say but it’s Kenya,ok🤷🏻♂️) were people expecting him to have to be taught to play football? Hence the standard for young foreign guy quotes of being raw? I’d say he’s a more than competent footballer settling in nicely.0 -
If he starts on Saturday he will learn a lot facing the likes of Moore, Smith, Windass etc. Let’s hope he’s a quick learner.1
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Because of his physicality I fancy him to do well against Moore if Jones isn't fitIsawsummersplay said:If he starts on Saturday he will learn a lot facing the likes of Moore, Smith, Windass etc. Let’s hope he’s a quick learner.1
