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POST MATCH THREAD : Charlton Athletic V QPR: Friday 6th February 2026 : KO 20.01

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  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,399
    Is there a stat on the amount of 2nd balls won?, it just seems everything drops to the opposition or they are 1st to the ball, it drives me mad at times especially when we play for 2nd ball possession. Just interested to know if the stats tally with what I think I’m seeing.
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,488
    Sword65pf said:
    Is there a stat on the amount of 2nd balls won?, it just seems everything drops to the opposition or they are 1st to the ball, it drives me mad at times especially when we play for 2nd ball possession. Just interested to know if the stats tally with what I think I’m seeing.
    Certainly feels that way to me as well. A lot of it might be the fact it is easier to win a second ball when a defender heads it straight to you like ours seems to do regularly.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,399
    Jac_52 said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Is there a stat on the amount of 2nd balls won?, it just seems everything drops to the opposition or they are 1st to the ball, it drives me mad at times especially when we play for 2nd ball possession. Just interested to know if the stats tally with what I think I’m seeing.
    Certainly feels that way to me as well. A lot of it might be the fact it is easier to win a second ball when a defender heads it straight to you like ours seems to do regularly.
    Feels like we don’t react as quick or simply predict where the ball might go, always the oppo getting to the 1st, infuriates me.
  • agim
    agim Posts: 1,149
    Just out of interest, were the QPR supporters held back last night after the final whistle?
    No. Very provocative oiks before and after the game. Mostly young and not very organised but did manage to create a tension in crowded streets that could have sparked.

    Incidentally, someone in a Charlton shirt was flat out in Floyd Road at about 7.55pm with a police cordon around then. Looked like a middle aged chap, or slightly older. Seemed to be moving but possible medical emergency. Lots of police and they were getting a silver heat blanket ready. I didn't want to ask before now so as not to alarm anyone. Hope the guy is ok, obviously.
    I was there went he went down. Pretty sure he just tripped but definitely took a whack on the back of his head on the curb looked dangerous. Anyone know if he's ok?? 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,179
    Sword65pf said:
    Is there a stat on the amount of 2nd balls won?, it just seems everything drops to the opposition or they are 1st to the ball, it drives me mad at times especially when we play for 2nd ball possession. Just interested to know if the stats tally with what I think I’m seeing.
    It’s especially infuriating when in the final third and we miss an opportunity to keep the pressure on and create another chance. 
  • siblers
    siblers Posts: 2,194
    CAFCTrev said:
    Is there a Queens Park Celtic?
    Not if it has Queen in its name!
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,027
    edited February 7
    Scoham said:


    I saw the usual comments elsewhere on social media that TC was lazy. Such a strange one
    As you infer, strange people. Why give a shit? Possibly racist scum. Ignore.
  • ossie64
    ossie64 Posts: 24
    Chambers is rightly getting plaudits for his attacking play but he struggled a bit defensively. Got brushed off the ball and a few loose passes. To be fair, it mainly happened in the second half when he appeared to be tiring.
    Chambers did well like you say until he tired. When compared to the disinterested efforts of TC for the 25 mins he was on think we'd all prefer to see the game when Chambers can last the 90mins. Whether TC is 'out of position' or not last nights performance wasn't good enough. One cross then a clear lack of desire. Jones and his staff must take a lot of the blame as they have had enough examples of the loss of structure/balance this change makes to the team in that by the end it almost lost the game. The lack of changes across the midfield was another strange one (Doc and Coady were done after 75mins)  more energy was available with JRC and Coventry on the bench.
  • CafcSteve
    CafcSteve Posts: 920
    Can’t really blame Carey for continually feeling like he needs to shoot when we’ve got a striker that doesn’t look like scoring upfront despite costing us £3+ Million.
  • cafc_se7
    cafc_se7 Posts: 2,394
    Posting without reading, a lot of criticism of us after the 80 minute point. QPR were shite for 80 mins. More negative and long ball than us! 

    We need to get a couple of wins and break free. The only thing I worry about is I’m not sure it’s going to come against Pompey, they seem to have turned a corner.

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  • Its interesting that qpr fans saying we were awful, I thought we played some pretty decent football for long stretches of the game 
  • mayoboy
    mayoboy Posts: 28

    Three points that came out of yesterdays game


    1. Bell is now a critical player for our team to the end of the season.

    His partnerships with Jones brings a renewed confidence to the defence.

    He also provides supports to Chambers who has settled in really well.


    2. Our corners and freekicks actually looked really good.

    This is due mainly to Chambers and Carey taking them and it won't be long until we start scoring from them.


    3. The movement from Dykes and Kelman up front is very good.

    We have real speed up front which means we can put defenders under pressure and stretch opposition teams when we have the ball. It is only a question of time before Kelman starts banging them in again.


    We don't look like a team who is about to get relegated although at least 3 points from the next 2 games would be welcome.



  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 1,675
    Playing the away team's theme tune in the build up to kickoff - hmm, let's not do that again.
    Playing the away team's theme tune in the build up to kickoff - hmm, let's not do that again.
    Know what you mean but they did bring 3,500 punters and filled the JS stand and paid loadsamoney to the club. You remember in the Prem days we used to welcome the away fans and even clapped them! Everybody liked us then. What happened!?
    No one likes us, we don't care.
  • daveydanger
    daveydanger Posts: 1,363
    edited February 8
    I think the result has massively skewed opinion on how well we played. I thought we were so good for the majority of the game, looked solid, lots of marauding forward, and we looked genuinely exciting at times. Same with Carey - I thought he had a good game, lots of excellent balls in, defensively looking so much better - a couple of wayward shots and people are saying he wasn’t any good… just didn’t see that at all 🤷‍♂️
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 12,276
    We had an excellent 1st half yesterday but it’s a bit concerning how we changed after HT. QPR seemed to pick up a gear and we couldn’t match them and towards the end we were hanging on. I’ve mentioned it elsewhere but I would have liked NJ to react quicker when we were coming under the cosh in the 2nd half. It seemed to take him a while before he started to make changes. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,698
    fenaddick said:
    sam3110 said:
    Why is Stoke a free hit when they are below QPR in the table? 
    Because people are assuming they’re still challenging at the top of the table without actually bothering to look
    Win against both Stoke and Pompey and we’ll be only a point behind the Potters having both played 32 games.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,698
    edited February 8
    Its interesting that qpr fans saying we were awful, I thought we played some pretty decent football for long stretches of the game 
    Football fans are generally notoriously shit judges, especially when their own team is involved.
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,263
    Another point on the board and, on the plus side, we were very good for the first 70 minutes until we ran out of gas. We look solid at the back, with Jones, Bell and Clarke particularly impressive and some way off a relegation side - notwithstanding our lack of creativity and control in midfield.

    Dykes had a fine game up front against a very good pair of central defenders, although I'm afraid that Kelman struggled to make any impact. I very much hope to be proved wrong but, whilst he had one or two nice touches, his lack of strength and athleticism suggest that he's not really up to this level. 

    Happily, none of the teams in the relegation scrap gained any ground on us today, other than Norwich who beat a Blackburn side who look a better bet than Norwich for the bottom 3. We've also edged a further point ahead of Leicester and Pompey.

    Hopefully all our players emerged unscathed from Friday's game and Leaburn will be fit to return to the squad for next Wednesday against Stoke. 
  • Major
    Major Posts: 1,083
    Scoham said:


    I saw the usual comments elsewhere on social media that TC was lazy. Such a strange one
    As you infer, strange people. Why give a shit? Possibly racist scum. Ignore.
    Where does the 'racist scum' accusation come from? If you think those comments were because of TC's colour, maybe you are the racist?
  • Simonsen said:
    I went with a Rangers mate, who is a very good judge of a game. He was happy enough with a point and thinks Charlton should be fine regarding staying up. Other Rangers fans echoed this on the train home but also pointed out that we were playing a fairly depleted team. 

    My mate, also liked Dykes (mainly for his attitude) when he was at Rangers but said he won't attack the 6 yard box for crosses. Chambers put a superb cross over to the far post last night....exactly where you would expect your big striker to be...but Dykes was hovering a bit back from the near post. If Dykes can get himself to the back post more often, Chambers will find him like he did at Leicester. 
    Do you (or or your mate or does anyone else) know why they hate Kelman? Got booed all game and one comment on BBC said they didn't mind Dykes but called Kelman a yank cu*t. Get that he never broke through for them but that's not his fault or that uncommon and they sold him for a decent wedge. Bit weird to react to that by booing him and digging him out on comments / socials. 

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  • Sword65pf said:
    Is there a stat on the amount of 2nd balls won?, it just seems everything drops to the opposition or they are 1st to the ball, it drives me mad at times especially when we play for 2nd ball possession. Just interested to know if the stats tally with what I think I’m seeing.
    Really? Thought that was true for a long stretch, up to and especially the Millwall game, but last two thought we have generally won the second ball battle. QPR manager referenced that specifically in his post match too
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,986
    I thought the end was less about running out of legs and more trying something different to get a goal. We deserved to be winning but we weren't so the decision for Jones was to carry on or try to change some things in search of a goal. QPR pushed TC back and whereas he could have been effective, he wasn't getting the opportunity to do so. He came on as a wing back but the hope was they would sit back and see the game out and he would be more of a winger but I think we lost the pressure we were putting on them from midfield and credit to them they didn't wave the white flag. All in all, the overall performance was quite promising IMO. 
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,161
    We still need to change formation to get TC on the pitch effectively when chasing a game.

    He will never be an effective attacking force as LWB and taking a genuine striker off for him will mostly reduce the chance of us scoring rather than increase it. 

    I don't mind starting with him with one striker but if we are chasing a goal he needs to come on aa part of a fairly progressed 3 which will normally mean 4 at the back.

    Not really sure why we don't do this more often (unless its because we don't really have a LB option, maybe chambers will be able to do 70 mins as a LWB and 20 + stoppage time as a LB)
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,458
    We still need to change formation to get TC on the pitch effectively when chasing a game.

    He will never be an effective attacking force as LWB and taking a genuine striker off for him will mostly reduce the chance of us scoring rather than increase it. 

    I don't mind starting with him with one striker but if we are chasing a goal he needs to come on aa part of a fairly progressed 3 which will normally mean 4 at the back.

    Not really sure why we don't do this more often (unless its because we don't really have a LB option, maybe chambers will be able to do 70 mins as a LWB and 20 + stoppage time as a LB)
    Given the mess we have gotten into over the last few months with TC having to cover at LWB, I was surprised Jones didn’t opt for Fevrier when Chambers had run out of steam.  I know he’s got a thing about left footed players on the right cutting in (Small and Fevrier bought for that reason), but we’ve seen so many times that TC is just not able to operate there, even for 20 minutes.  

    I actually think it was a big part of the reason QPR finished so strongly.  You could’ve even but Collins S or Gillesphey on and moved Bell out there.  I got TC having to cover when there were injuries, but we have 3 options in that position now, yet find ourselves finishing that game with TC at LWB.  Baffling 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,633
    Simonsen said:
    I went with a Rangers mate, who is a very good judge of a game. He was happy enough with a point and thinks Charlton should be fine regarding staying up. Other Rangers fans echoed this on the train home but also pointed out that we were playing a fairly depleted team. 

    My mate, also liked Dykes (mainly for his attitude) when he was at Rangers but said he won't attack the 6 yard box for crosses. Chambers put a superb cross over to the far post last night....exactly where you would expect your big striker to be...but Dykes was hovering a bit back from the near post. If Dykes can get himself to the back post more often, Chambers will find him like he did at Leicester. 
    Do you (or or your mate or does anyone else) know why they hate Kelman? Got booed all game and one comment on BBC said they didn't mind Dykes but called Kelman a yank cu*t. Get that he never broke through for them but that's not his fault or that uncommon and they sold him for a decent wedge. Bit weird to react to that by booing him and digging him out on comments / socials. 
    I think he posted or erased qpr from social meeeeeja , you know how we cry like babies about Barry bannan laughing at us getting relegated or some other guff, Kerman dissed QPR, so like most football fans they can’t handle it and hate him with a passion 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,399
    Sword65pf said:
    Is there a stat on the amount of 2nd balls won?, it just seems everything drops to the opposition or they are 1st to the ball, it drives me mad at times especially when we play for 2nd ball possession. Just interested to know if the stats tally with what I think I’m seeing.
    Really? Thought that was true for a long stretch, up to and especially the Millwall game, but last two thought we have generally won the second ball battle. QPR manager referenced that specifically in his post match too
    Yes really
  • I think it’s interesting that people are picking up on just how one dimensional Charlton are in as much as once we start to run out of legs and the front footed pressing eases off we find ourselves quite often under the cosh. Early in the season we seemed to be able to finish the 90 minutes as the stronger team in most matches. Now we have players that have come in and are not truly match fit for NJ’s system and we’re looking leggy. I wish Nathan had a plan B but he doesn’t seem to want to change how we set up for the entire match. I hope Stoke got the run around yesterday and that our lads have a good few days recovery. 
  • Sword65pf said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Is there a stat on the amount of 2nd balls won?, it just seems everything drops to the opposition or they are 1st to the ball, it drives me mad at times especially when we play for 2nd ball possession. Just interested to know if the stats tally with what I think I’m seeing.
    Really? Thought that was true for a long stretch, up to and especially the Millwall game, but last two thought we have generally won the second ball battle. QPR manager referenced that specifically in his post match too
    Yes really
    Cool, good chat  :)
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,399
    Sword65pf said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Is there a stat on the amount of 2nd balls won?, it just seems everything drops to the opposition or they are 1st to the ball, it drives me mad at times especially when we play for 2nd ball possession. Just interested to know if the stats tally with what I think I’m seeing.
    Really? Thought that was true for a long stretch, up to and especially the Millwall game, but last two thought we have generally won the second ball battle. QPR manager referenced that specifically in his post match too
    Yes really
    Cool, good chat  :)
    Thought I’d keep it short and sweet!!😜
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,635
    Simonsen said:
    I went with a Rangers mate, who is a very good judge of a game. He was happy enough with a point and thinks Charlton should be fine regarding staying up. Other Rangers fans echoed this on the train home but also pointed out that we were playing a fairly depleted team. 

    My mate, also liked Dykes (mainly for his attitude) when he was at Rangers but said he won't attack the 6 yard box for crosses. Chambers put a superb cross over to the far post last night....exactly where you would expect your big striker to be...but Dykes was hovering a bit back from the near post. If Dykes can get himself to the back post more often, Chambers will find him like he did at Leicester. 
    Do you (or or your mate or does anyone else) know why they hate Kelman? Got booed all game and one comment on BBC said they didn't mind Dykes but called Kelman a yank cu*t. Get that he never broke through for them but that's not his fault or that uncommon and they sold him for a decent wedge. Bit weird to react to that by booing him and digging him out on comments / socials. 
    I think he posted or erased qpr from social meeeeeja , you know how we cry like babies about Barry bannan laughing at us getting relegated or some other guff, Kerman dissed QPR, so like most football fans they can’t handle it and hate him with a passion 
    Yes, it was something of that order. Usual stuff.