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POST MATCH THREAD : Charlton Athletic V QPR: Friday 6th February 2026 : KO 20.01
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Definitely need HMS Addicks to be restocked with live ammunition instead of blanks for Wednesday night's encounter. COYRs1
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I think it’s because so many of us are just so desperate that we don’t drop. We know we need to win games, home games should offer the best opportunity for that, particularly against mid table teams unlikely to be troubling either of the table carrying a lot of injuries, and by full time we were grateful for the referees whistle.7dave said:Surprised by the levels of negativity on here, yes we faded and ended up hanging on but for majority of game we were the better team. There was a reason their keeper was man of the match.
.We need to be more clinical and offensively concerning to teams. Second half performances worry me. How many games do you feel we’ve been better in the 2nd half, or better than the opposition in the 2nd half over the last 3 months? Cov home, Brum away and Oxford home are the only 3 I can think of.Last season that was our USP, high fitness levels, determination, offensive pressure, fight to the end etc. we just don’t seem to have that intensity and ability to shift up a gear or two in 2nd halves and the ‘game changers’ are not positivity changing games.
Definite positives from last night though so it’s not a gloomy tale. Just a little frustration it was another winless home outcome. That’s my take.5 -
Load up for Wednesday. COYRs
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Created a better chance that's what, and a much better scoring opportunity than Carey's 20 yards out hit and hope...🤷♂️🙄golfaddick said:
And what would Clarke have done with it ?? Shoot or cross ?? I'd rather take my chances on Carey scoring than Clarke. And if Clarke had crossed it what are the odds that the cross is blocked or a striker (if one was up with play) would have scored anyway ?JaShea99 said:
If there’s no better option, yes. When there’s a player screaming for it in acres of space on his right, no.2121 said:Carey didn't have his shooting boots on last night, however, come on, we all wanted him to shoot when he got into those postitions!3 -
None of that explains away his incredibly bad touches, his misplaced passes, the weird dummy thing he did where he ran away from the ball, or the times he randomly wandered 30 yards up the touchline and left the wing back position completely exposed.Oggy Red said:TC getting a bashing on here tonight, ok.
But a bit of perspective, perhaps?
And so .... TC comes on, NJ decision yet again to play him at LWB.
First thing TC goes on a run and panics the QPR defence - and immediately their manager makes a sub to double up on TC.
Now TC is pressed onto the touchline, denied space and now afraid to take a risk, in case he's exposed defensively.
By this time our 3 CMs have run themselves into the ground and running on empty - and QPR win control of the midfield
And what does NJ do?
Nothing, he just bites his fingernails and hopes for the best, before bringing on Berry very late on.
That's not good enough - you had energy and experience on the bench which could have revitalised us.
You've been completely out thought by the QPR manager - which nearly cost us defeat.
And for god's sake, stop this nonsense of playing TC out of position - and instead let the lad play to his strengths.
You say he didn't want to take risks going forward and get exposed defensively, well he managed to not go forward and still get exposed, mostly because he just wandered about re-adjusting his shorts or socks every 10 seconds2 -
The morning after,slightly hungover and a big fry up was had, there's definitely a free hit incoming.
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Christ, some of the takes on this thread are baffling. You’d think it was worse than the Southampton 5–1 if you hadn’t actually watched it. I was at The Valley and we played well — with half-decent finishing we win that game. The subs made us slightly worse again in the second half, but QPR only really laid a glove on us in injury time. Before that, they barely troubled us.
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I think we need to remember we have a lot of new players bedding into the team, we are looking so much more balanced and back to being hard to beat, whilst still picking up points. All these things should give us reason to think we will get better( injuries permitting). Strikers should start expecting balls into the box with the quality of Chambers in particular and Clarke, so hopefully will gamble on that. We all know how we are going to play it’s just about how well we execute that plan.AFKABartram said:
I think it’s because so many of us are just so desperate that we don’t drop. We know we need to win games, home games should offer the best opportunity for that, particularly against mid table teams unlikely to be troubling either of the table carrying a lot of injuries, and by full time we were grateful for the referees whistle.7dave said:Surprised by the levels of negativity on here, yes we faded and ended up hanging on but for majority of game we were the better team. There was a reason their keeper was man of the match.
.We need to be more clinical and offensively concerning to teams. Second half performances worry me. How many games do you feel we’ve been better in the 2nd half, or better than the opposition in the 2nd half over the last 3 months? Cov home, Brum away and Oxford home are the only 3 I can think of.Last season that was our USP, high fitness levels, determination, offensive pressure, fight to the end etc. we just don’t seem to have that intensity and ability to shift up a gear or two in 2nd halves and the ‘game changers’ are not positivity changing games.
Definite positives from last night though so it’s not a gloomy tale. Just a little frustration it was another winless home outcome. That’s my take.4 -
Are you within striking distance of the lavvy...👌Steven81 said:The morning after,slightly hungover and a big fry up was had, there's definitely a free hit incoming.0 -
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He's not a winger (when he does play as a winger his end produce is woeful). He's not a LWB( he cannot defend because he is weak). He has contributed 2 goals and 2 assists in 30 Matches. He is nowhere near as good as Chambers who has contributed already 1 assist in 2 and a half games.
Why does NJ persist in picking him.
Right now TC is a luxury we can't afford to have playing.
There is a player in there somewhere but until his final ball strength and decision making improves he is a liability.2 -
Don't think there are many on here disagreeing with you mate..CAFCTrev said:Christ, some of the takes on this thread are baffling. You’d think it was worse than the Southampton 5–1 if you hadn’t actually watched it. I was at The Valley and we played well — with half-decent finishing we win that game. The subs made us slightly worse again in the second half, but QPR only really laid a glove on us in injury time. Before that, they barely troubled us.2 -
Didn’t think it was that bad a game for a 0-0, don’t know how it came across on telly.eastterrace6168 said:
Don't think there are many on here disagreeing with you mate..CAFCTrev said:Christ, some of the takes on this thread are baffling. You’d think it was worse than the Southampton 5–1 if you hadn’t actually watched it. I was at The Valley and we played well — with half-decent finishing we win that game. The subs made us slightly worse again in the second half, but QPR only really laid a glove on us in injury time. Before that, they barely troubled us.1 -
ValleyGary said:Meh. A point gained but disappointing we couldn’t keep up the first half pressure. QPR were shite and we just seem to let them off the hook, second half especially.Staying up is the objective but if we do, we need a whole summer of coming up with a new identity. Another season of 70 yard diagonals and I think I’ll pack it in.
I watched Derby under John Eustace play fantastic pass and move football at Bristol city and Win 5-0 and said I would love to see Charlton play that way but knew that was very unlikely any time soon ! Also Derby won't have opponents that were so out of form on the night.
Last night was head tennis for long periods and bizarrely the long diagonal passes did have success on occasions, though I still like the ball on the ground with silk passing and movement but that rare from this Cafc team under Nathan.
Dealing with our present position which is 17th which is where I said we would finish in early August; we will do what we do best which is to negate the other team and try to nick a goal from somewhere.
At least we have a left footed LWB and a RIght footed RWB now so balance has been restored but beautiful game may be a bit of a stretch!
Accumulate the points for now but I really hope we can evolve into a team that's a delight on the eye and can win if that's not being too greedy ?3 -
Interesting question._uptheaddicks said:I notice our not-so-astute fans analyse the game that they wanted to see, rather than what actually happens.
Think that's a general football bug, though.
Think it has to be both, either in parts or simultaneously. You need the 'as is' and the 'to be' in any analysis, whether in football or business or any aspect of daily life. Then quality of information (perspective) and decision making (appraisal) come into play.0 -
On the balance of things I'm happy with the point and although in some great positions we never really looked like winning it, nor losing it really so a draw was a fair result. Very happy with clean sheet, if we can get a clean sheet in every game left we'll be more than fine!! Clearly we're not going to blow any teams away so more than happy of keeping it tight, as long as we can keep it tight.
Sooner we can get 90 min out of chambers the better, was clear to see we basically fell apart when TC came on for him, but this was compounded with Kelmen being replaced by Godden, thus losing all our pace up top and we no longer could stretch play. Then further compounded by the strange berry introduction. Brownie said it right on the comms it was surely crying out for coady & doc off for Costello and Coventry and fresh legs in the middle to wrestle back control. Can't remember if fuller was on the bench but again maybe him also coming on for Carey.
With Leaburn starting that game I think we would have won, if those chances that fell to dykes, ramsey or coady fell to Kelman, I also think we win that game.
My only real fear is if clarke or chambers are injured we're in trouble and last night really brought home the need for a decent box to box midfielder or attacking midfielder with a bit more nous but hopefully its those 2 singings we spend some money on (and hope to dear god we can sign up clarke next season)2 -
No. Very provocative oiks before and after the game. Mostly young and not very organised but did manage to create a tension in crowded streets that could have sparked.Fortune 82nd Minute said:Just out of interest, were the QPR supporters held back last night after the final whistle?
Incidentally, someone in a Charlton shirt was flat out in Floyd Road at about 7.55pm with a police cordon around then. Looked like a middle aged chap, or slightly older. Seemed to be moving but possible medical emergency. Lots of police and they were getting a silver heat blanket ready. I didn't want to ask before now so as not to alarm anyone. Hope the guy is ok, obviously.2 -
We just lacked that final bit of creativity and or luck in terms of the ball falling to one of our strikers in the box but it was good to see us actually trying to go forward rather than sideways and backwards. If we play anywhere near like that in the remaining games we will be fine3
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This just isn't true. You're sensationalising what is pretty fair critique of a game where we probably should have taken all 3 points.CAFCTrev said:Christ, some of the takes on this thread are baffling. You’d think it was worse than the Southampton 5–1 if you hadn’t actually watched it. I was at The Valley and we played well — with half-decent finishing we win that game. The subs made us slightly worse again in the second half, but QPR only really laid a glove on us in injury time. Before that, they barely troubled us.5 -
Fair point, was just a bit surprised/dissapointed at some of the negativity thats all.Croydon said:
This just isn't true. You're sensationalising what is pretty fair critique of a game where we probably should have taken all 3 points.CAFCTrev said:Christ, some of the takes on this thread are baffling. You’d think it was worse than the Southampton 5–1 if you hadn’t actually watched it. I was at The Valley and we played well — with half-decent finishing we win that game. The subs made us slightly worse again in the second half, but QPR only really laid a glove on us in injury time. Before that, they barely troubled us.
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And when it did (both halves) it fell to Coady and Ramsay. Anyone else and they’re probably both goals.Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch said:The ball wouldn't drop our way in their box in the first half, and we needed it to.
Second half we missed Leaburn, QPR looked comfortable.
Given the meh performance, happy enough with a point.1 -
For a NJ team we seemed very enterprising attacking team, a shame Carey seemed to shoot so badly and needs to see where other players are positioned when he has the ball near the penalty area.
I think we deserved to win but thanks to Kaminski and Dykes for their clearances at the end, a point will have to do this time1 -
Enough chances to have won the game but into injury time we were hanging on for a point1
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Spot on … both comments , I don’t get why we bring him on he brings nothing to the team .. rather Fullah on the bench if honest and drop Campbell completely .. he just don’t seem to care again last lazy gave the ball away did not bother to get it back nearly lead to a good chance for QPRSword65pf said:
Sorry but why are you defending that performance of TC, we wasn’t getting many chances 2nd half, if the ball was to drop for TC or Godden I know who I would put my money on to score, so no way should TC been on for Kelman. If TC wants game time, he’s going to have to be better in the role he is being asked to play, he couldn’t pass wind tonight let alone the ball.Garrymanilow said:
I don't think TC was the problem, I think bringing him on at LWB was. He was clearly really, really worried about being caught out on the transition. There were a couple of occasions when he could have run his man and didn't but mostly he was given a difficult job to do just as QPR were in the ascendancy. TC should have come on for Kelman, Godden didn't offer much, and more importantly didn't offer something different to Kelman which TC would have. Freed of defensive responsibility I think he would have played less cautiously. I think Jones got that wrong, it should have been TC for Kelman and Fevrier for Chambersgolfaddick said:
Totally agree.sam3110 said:I haven't seen a worse sub appearance than TC's tonight. One burst of energy in the opening 30 seconds, then absolutely nothing from him afterwards, just moped about the pitch, staying back when he should be attacking, then drifting forward aimlessly just as we lose it to be out of position.
When the ball did find him, he managed to pick the wrong option EVERY single time.
Just awful
Only time he took on his man was in the first 30 secs of coming on, then spent the rest of the evening tapping the ball back to Bell or Doc.
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Not caught up with most of the thread but agree on most of what’s been said on the first couple of pages.
I got why Berry came on, if we have the ball he’ll get in the right areas and if a chance falls to him he’s one of our players who are more likely to take it. The problem was him being on made it harder to win possession and create chances.
Outside of a chance falling to him he’s not up to this level but I don’t think NJ is seeing that yet. Why not try JRC in that role, if only from the bench? He has the technical ability to help us create chances and offers more than Berry in general.
I’m also still convinced Fullah offers more than Berry, outside the box he has pace and skill which causes problems and he has goals and assists in him. Sure he’ll make mistakes and lacks experience, but Berry’s lack of pace has lead to us losing the ball too.
I said in the Dykes thread he’s an upgrade on Olaofe, though a different type of striker. Looking forward to seeing how the season plays out with our options up front. Leaburn’s improved, Dykes looks comfortable at this level, and both Godden and Kelman will score goals if we create the right type of chances. None of them look outstanding at his level in the way someone like Kermorgant did, so there’s an opportunity for all of them to make themselves first choice.
I saw the usual comments elsewhere on social media that TC was lazy. Such a strange one, NJ has commented on the amount of running he does, and yet there’s this extreme opposite opinion that he doesn’t try. Despite what some might say and his errors last night, there’s no denying he’s an outlet at this level and does create chances for himself and others with his pace. If that clicks and the end product improves he’ll go from looking L1 to a very useful Championship player.
It’s interesting how it’s playing out with Coady, it wasn’t obvious he’d be playing DM when he first came in. Coventry hasn’t had the season I hoped, but is still a very steady player. Many have pointed out Coady’s leadership, and he does seem to have a better range of passing than Coventry, which for us to evolve as a team is something I think we need in that position.
Ramsay’s not hitting the levels of we know he can do. He’ll have to sooner than later with Sichenje joining. Interesting that NJ called Sichenje technically good, as well as an athlete and aggressive. If the rest of his game is up to this level then Ramsay won’t have a guaranteed place, which would have been mad to say 6 months ago. Hopefully a sign of the progress we’re making.
I’m enjoying Clarke and Chambers at wing back. Bree had a good delivery on his day, but he always looked more like a RB than a RWB to me. Clarke although more of a defender than a winger has that bit more about him.
Overall the signings have improved us, that performance just needed a goal, and another day Carey in particular would have got that for us. At this point we shouldn’t go down. The main worry for me is how we’ll cope if key players pick injuries.5 -
After the gutless performance two weeks ago and conceding 4 which could've been 7, keeping two clean sheets is an amazing turn around despite the frustrations of not scoring against QPR.
The big issue at the moment, it's a long time since we won 11 v 11: 10 matches ago on the 20th December against Oxford.1 -
I really don't think it's a coincidence that Docherty coming back into the first 11 has resulted in much better performances from those around him. Nor is it a coincidence that when he was subbed off we lost all our organisation /game plan and we looked like a boxer on the ropes.
We've had lots of players just like Doc over the years. I think it's high time he started getting the respect he deserves.1 -
That was an entertaining goalless draw and on another night we could have been two or three up on the 90th minute - and QPR could have knocked in two or three in the eight minutes of extra time. I thought we were going to see a repeat of the Loftus Road game when their substitutes made all the difference. They certainly added pace and energy, and created chances. Their keeper may have got MotM but Kam's block (and Dykes head) saved us from a cruel defeat.
All in all though, we all have to be pleased with what we are seeing. Two performances where we have kept clean sheets and created chances, and where we have seen sound defending and solid midfield play. One of the keys to this improvement is, of course, the return of Bell who, for me, was the best player on the pitch last night. But a shout out too to the backroom team in getting Clarke, Coady and Chambers on board. Clarke offers pace and creativity wide right, Chambers is linking up well with Bell and provides inventive and effective free kicks and corners, and Coady is a steadying presence who is having a beneficial effect on Docherty who has played very well in the last two games.
However, it should be said that whilst QPR's substitutes were extremely effective, our replacements just weren't and the team's balance went to pot. Perhaps it would have been better for Coventry to come on for the tiring Coady and JRC on for (yes he can be wasteful) Carey with TC going up front with Dykes or Kelman. As it was, TC floundered a bit in the LWB position again and Godden and Berry hardly touched the ball. Not great, and it nearly cost us.
Let's hope the subs are used with more effectiveness in future to enhance what appear to be an overall improving team.2 -
Gutted to have to settle for a draw, as I was convinced we were going to score a late winner.... until the last ten minutes where we looked clueless.
Ramsay isn't looking very secure right now, and TC had a night to forget. But the way our energy levels dropped was horrible to see, and Jones really needed someone to tell him it needed rectifying.
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I give TC a lot of stick because I believe he has the attributes to do really well, at the moment the step up is too much, his play is a real Jekyll and Hyde situation, he does some things really well like running at the defender, but not enough,and others pretty terribly, unfortunately the things he does poorly would and wasn’t good enough in league 1, passing, shooting, aggression in the tackle,general decision making. All these things are not championship level. I don’t think he is lazy, that’s his demeanour, he does sulk though. I think it’s down to him as to whether he takes another step up, like he did last season. His age can’t be the excuse he’s played lots of games for his age.RonnieMoore said:
Spot on … both comments , I don’t get why we bring him on he brings nothing to the team .. rather Fullah on the bench if honest and drop Campbell completely .. he just don’t seem to care again last lazy gave the ball away did not bother to get it back nearly lead to a good chance for QPRSword65pf said:
Sorry but why are you defending that performance of TC, we wasn’t getting many chances 2nd half, if the ball was to drop for TC or Godden I know who I would put my money on to score, so no way should TC been on for Kelman. If TC wants game time, he’s going to have to be better in the role he is being asked to play, he couldn’t pass wind tonight let alone the ball.Garrymanilow said:
I don't think TC was the problem, I think bringing him on at LWB was. He was clearly really, really worried about being caught out on the transition. There were a couple of occasions when he could have run his man and didn't but mostly he was given a difficult job to do just as QPR were in the ascendancy. TC should have come on for Kelman, Godden didn't offer much, and more importantly didn't offer something different to Kelman which TC would have. Freed of defensive responsibility I think he would have played less cautiously. I think Jones got that wrong, it should have been TC for Kelman and Fevrier for Chambersgolfaddick said:
Totally agree.sam3110 said:I haven't seen a worse sub appearance than TC's tonight. One burst of energy in the opening 30 seconds, then absolutely nothing from him afterwards, just moped about the pitch, staying back when he should be attacking, then drifting forward aimlessly just as we lose it to be out of position.
When the ball did find him, he managed to pick the wrong option EVERY single time.
Just awful
Only time he took on his man was in the first 30 secs of coming on, then spent the rest of the evening tapping the ball back to Bell or Doc.1
