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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Wrexham: Saturday 28th February 2026: KO 15:00
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Frustrating thing is you just know a fit Godden would be in one of the positions for the Berry, Clarke, TC chances and not hashed at them like they did.
Woke up a little more worried than yesterday. We failed to widen the points gap while playing really well. If we drop to 20th, panic will set it.2 -
We've had a few wins this season where we weren't all that.carly burn said:
Had a shit day at the office. Like us most weeks.eastterrace6168 said:I am so proud of this club and the effort today, keep it up and we will have no problem for the rest of the season...
How Wrexham are where they are is beyond me, very lucky and a park the bus and hit on the break kinda side, really can't see their luck holding for the rest of the season, and will be expecting them again at The Valley next season, by the way Collins was immense today and probably run Jones close for the MOTM...
Looking forward to Brum next Saturday...COYR
Still managed the win though.
Something we are incapable of, even on one of our few good office days3 -
Nothing I saw yesterday suggested we are going anywhere this season, and what's more, we will have to endure the farce that is bloody Wrexham next season as well...2
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You surely can't give the MoM to a bloke who missed an open goal?O-Randy-Hunt said:Tuesday against West brom was fcking boring and we come away with a point. Today was enjoyable and pretty exciting and we looked like we were going to score and we come away with nothing. I clapped them all off at the end because we gave it a good go and kept the ball on the floor for large parts of the game. Ref and lino on the AC stand side were pony. Clarke my MOM.2 -
You didn't see a game that we left with 0 points 🙃eastterrace6168 said:Nothing I saw yesterday suggested we are going anywhere this season, and what's more, we will have to endure the farce that is bloody Wrexham next season as well...4 -
Well yes, so what's that got to do with it, or didn't you understand the meaning of my post..._uptheaddicks said:
You didn't see a game that we left with 0 points 🙃eastterrace6168 said:Nothing I saw yesterday suggested we are going anywhere this season, and what's more, we will have to endure the farce that is bloody Wrexham next season as well...1 -
(4-4-2)golfaddick said:
It's like you need 2 players - a defender who can defend and a winger who can score 🤷♂️Garrymanilow said:I like Harry Clarke a lot but he's cost us in two key moments in front of goal now. You can see why Jones initially went for an attacker he wanted to convert into a wingback given when our set up is working properly it provides goalscoring chances to the RWB. Apter couldn't be arsed to learn how to defend but Bree took his chances at the start in a way that Clarke doesn't seem to be able to. It goes to show though that as much as we need an improved midfield, finding a RWB with the defensive nous and ability to read that game that Clarke has coupled with some actual finishing ability would probably be the best signing we could make in the summer2 -
Nah he had to send the defender. Not enough time to get a clean shot off there, especially for a team low on confidence when it comes to scoring.king addick said:
I don't at all. The simple thing is one touch, shoot. A seasoned pro should know thatgolfaddick said:
I can see why Berry would want to take a touch & open up the goal.....its just his touch is too heavy & it runs away from him. Just enough for the defender to get in a tackle.Chunes said:
And for Clarke's chance we only need to be reminded of the words of Brian Clough......
"to miss from there you need bloody shooting"1 -
3 main differences id say were:fenaddick said:
Set up was broadly similar but not having two big lumps up front really helped us actually pass the ball moreRedJohn said:Can anyone tell me, did we play different tactics/formation today to explain the vast improvement, noticed more passing and wing backs getting forward more, thanks in advance.
TC started up top - always gives us more threat
Berry started instead of Doc
We passed it around the back and on the deck a lot more rather than just launching it straight up top
and wrexham were a bit flacid0 -
Hope today is a better one for you!shine166 said:
Im on heavy duty medication atm for depression, thought id just delete my post.charltonbob said:
"No, but apparently calling one a sheep shsgging prick is racist" I didn't but how is that racist ???shine166 said:
No, but apparently calling one a sheep shsgging prick is racist, personally if of said ot was xenophobic, but didn't want to confuse.charltonbob said:
Were you dressed as a sheep ?shine166 said:
They were insufferable. Never had grief from any other fans after a game, did today though while on a train on my own.Chunes said:Bumped into their fans at London Bridge. What an odd and awful lot. Not a Welsh accent among them. A bunch of dribble-mouthed crusty jugglers.
"personally if of said ot was xenophobic, but didn't want to confuse." Erm ...... you just have
Thought the game was good, but had a very rough day mentally, when I probably should have just stayed at home with my family grieving. Ill try again in a few weeks.6 -
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Didn’t deserve to lose but need to take chances. Let down today by awful officials. Ref booked out players but not theirs for the same type of challenge, let them time waste all game especially at throw ins and goal kicks. AC Lino must have seen the way Lloyd was being fouled at the near post from corners as his shirt was almost being pulled off, he didn’t flag for a blatant push in the back on Carey right in front of him and flagged for offsides against us that most weren’t.5
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Obviously frustrating but really enjoyed the performance.Far more passing and hence chances. Berry a big part of that in the first half, so full credit to Jones for picking him. Shame he missed the great chance.Thought one of our best spells was when Leaburn and Kelman were waiting to come on. Don’t think the changes improved things much after that.Their chance from a defensive mistake (Jones) weas scuffed into the corner, ours close enough to the keeper for him to
make a brilliant save.Looking forward to next Saturday and more of that.0 -
V frustrating
Watching the highlights today, I actually thought the Berry and Clarke chances werent as easy as I thought at the time in the stadium ... small consolation though1 -
On watching the highlights, that's fair. He has to score that.RonnieMoore said:
You fail to mention Campbell sitter he missed from 3 yardscrookester said:The best we've played for ages. Kept the ball on the deck for the most part and really should have scored from at least Berry and Clarke's excellent openings. Clarke really does make some good runs but his finishing is sorely lacking.
Surprised not many mentions of the officials, who I thought were terrible, from the linesmen flagging phantom offsides, to the ref ignoring their time wasting and missing the foul on TC in the passage of play leading to their goal, to the 4th official somehow thinking there was only 4 minutes of injury time.
Mannion had a good game and seemed to be a reassuring presence for the defence. Sichenje and Jones were both excellent, let's hope both Sichenje and Bell's injuries aren't enough to put them on the sidelines.
Dykes has been excellent for us but thought he was largely ineffective today, until the end of game pile-on, at least. Leaburn put himself about well but showed a lack of composure with what was a tricky opportunity. I thought it was one of TC's best games of the season overall, especially in the first half. Thought Carey's late slot was a nailed on goal but their keeper made a great save.
Overall, a draw would have been a fair result. Thank god the results around mean we still have a nice cushion from the relegation zone.0 -
I have watched the highlights on Sky. Clarke’s miss was unbelievable. It didn’t look so bad at the ground.1
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Midfield and wing backs (given our first choice two are loans) is the bigger priority for me, we need to create more and better chances - yesterday was a bit of a one off, we don’t usually create that many chances we should score.agim said:33 in 35 is the problem.
Let's be honest with the Godden injury at his age we knew this season would be a struggle for him but the rest of the numbers for our attackers just isn't good enough. There was talk over the summer about NJ going for quantity over quality and it does feel that way. Harvey Knibbs being in the top four goal scorers given his game time says it all. If we stay up we MUST improve up top
That’s not to say we won’t also need to bring in a striker or two.0 -
I was at that end of the West Stand. Berry froze. No composure.JamesSeed said:Highlights showed two great blocks by Kayne and Collins.
But how did we not score after those chances for Berry, Clarke, Campbell and Carey?! I was at the game, but they looked even worse misses on the highlights. I'll excuse Carey from criticism though, because he struck the ball well and their keeper pulled of one helluva save. Berry could have swept the ball into the net withought taking that heavy touch. Clarke... aaagh! And Tupac had a pretty simple header.
Hopefully they'll learn from the improved performance though.2 -
He panicked and froze. It's all well and good saying he's done it for xxx seasons, but that's irrelevant now.Tutt-Tutt said:
I was at that end of the West Stand. Berry froze. No composure.JamesSeed said:Highlights showed two great blocks by Kayne and Collins.
But how did we not score after those chances for Berry, Clarke, Campbell and Carey?! I was at the game, but they looked even worse misses on the highlights. I'll excuse Carey from criticism though, because he struck the ball well and their keeper pulled of one helluva save. Berry could have swept the ball into the net withought taking that heavy touch. Clarke... aaagh! And Tupac had a pretty simple header.
Hopefully they'll learn from the improved performance though.1 -
The annoying thing with Berry's chance is that it was perfectly set for him to hit it with his stronger (right) foot, there was really no need to turn inside onto his left. And Clarke's miss was a shocker, looked bad live but even worse on the highlights.0
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Exact same attempt in his last start at home against Coventry. Guess what, he wasn't quick enough to get a shot off.crookester said:The annoying thing with Berry's chance is that it was perfectly set for him to hit it with his stronger (right) foot, there was really no need to turn inside onto his left. And Clarke's miss was a shocker, looked back live but even worse on the highlights.2 -
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He's still "the best in our squad" at finishing chances in the box, according to a certain someone yesterday evening_uptheaddicks said:
Exact same attempt in his last start at home against Coventry. Guess what, he wasn't quick enough to get a shot off.crookester said:The annoying thing with Berry's chance is that it was perfectly set for him to hit it with his stronger (right) foot, there was really no need to turn inside onto his left. And Clarke's miss was a shocker, looked back live but even worse on the highlights.4 -
A desperately frustrating match, and it’s hard for me to focus on the positives although there are many. I don’t accept that there is a huge gulf in quality between Charlton and most of the teams in this league. The problem is maintaining consistency - playing as well as they did yesterday wasn’t enough to earn them a point at the end of the day, but if they played that way every week then we might already be safe and the team could focus on making the improvements needed to get to the next level. Thank goodness that they work so hard - hopefully given a bit more luck and time it will begin to pay off.0
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Standard opposition team talk against Charlton.Get the first goal and we won’t lose.Have long-range shots.2
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Let’s look at the data in front of us. We have won 4 out of the last 22 league games (take Chelsea out as its obviously an anomaly). That’s a decent sample size - an 18pc win rate.So how many of those 22 did we draw? 6 - so 22pc.We had some injuries in some of that and also some luck with things like sendings off but overall I think it all levels out.
lets say we need a max of 9 points to be safe (may be more but unlikely).
Presuming some draws - we need to win 2 games.
Thats 2 from 11. An 18pc win rate. Bang on what we achieved over the last 22.
And the 3 draws? That’s 27pc of remaining games if we keep up our win ratio and get two wins.Thats where things get tight, as we only got 22pc draws over the last 22.
So we are gonna need to step up and win 3 or dig in and convert a couple of defeats to draws.
When you park emotion and your natural pessimism / optimism (delete as appropriate) it’s gonna be bloody tight and I still maintain we are going to need to improve to stay up.1 -
Emotion parked. We're down aren't we. No margin left for improvement. Everything has been tried that i can think of. Except maybe Fullah? and something innovative like playing with an extra player instead of a goalkeeper? (In many games our keeper goes almost completely untested). The only other thing left to do it get bets on going down to ease the pain.10
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We need to update Brian Clough’s quote to ‘the game isn’t played on a spreadsheet’.DamoNorthStand said:Let’s look at the data in front of us. We have won 4 out of the last 22 league games (take Chelsea out as its obviously an anomaly). That’s a decent sample size - an 18pc win rate.So how many of those 22 did we draw? 6 - so 22pc.We had some injuries in some of that and also some luck with things like sendings off but overall I think it all levels out.
lets say we need a max of 9 points to be safe (may be more but unlikely).
Presuming some draws - we need to win 2 games.
Thats 2 from 11. An 18pc win rate. Bang on what we achieved over the last 22.
And the 3 draws? That’s 27pc of remaining games if we keep up our win ratio and get two wins.Thats where things get tight, as we only got 22pc draws over the last 22.
So we are gonna need to step up and win 3 or dig in and convert a couple of defeats to draws.
When you park emotion and your natural pessimism / optimism (delete as appropriate) it’s gonna be bloody tight and I still maintain we are going to need to improve to stay up.2 -
Mostly been said, very frustrating. FWIW on a few of the talking points:
- Not sure you'd say Mannion was the better option on today's showing. Not saying he was at fault for the goal, but he made one excellent claim (that I don't think TK would), but also had several mix ups with the back line due to poor communication
- Every game I see Clarke going off at 20/1 to score any time and think it's a bargain with the positions he's getting into, but it turns out the bookies do know what that are doing. Forgave him the 1v1 v Pompey as he's not a striker but you need to be able to tap in from four yards out
- So exciting to have Sichenje in the back line, was involved in so much of the positive forward play
- Berry should obviously score but otherwise don't agree at all he played badly. I rate Doc highly for his off the ball work but Berry in was a big part of why we played it about more. He popped up all over to receive it and move it forward
- Also don't agree with the Cov criticism, his main job is to keep it ticking over and he does look to play forward, there just seems to be a lack of movement ahead of him
- Just my opinion but criticising TC off the back of that is mental to me. Caused them lots of problems, not least setting up what should have been a brilliant assist for Berry. People talk about weakness and lack of upper body strength, there were multiple times he held off two or three players to bring it down, dribble out of trouble and find a red shirt. Yes he should score the header but ultimately it's not what he's about at all and even if he hits the potential we all hope he's not going to become good in the air6 -
Looking forward to The GODden riding over the hill to the rescue...🙌🙌2
