Attention: Please take a moment to consider our terms and conditions before posting.
Summer Window 2026 - Rumours and Discussion
Comments
-
That was my first Charlton game, and we won 1-0...Henry Irving said:
Since Millwall played us at the Valley in 1968 you mean.RonnieMoore said:
Who been going to the valley since 1968 and still owns Ronnie Moore little toe ….Henry Irving said:
Millwall fan, what can you expect?LargeAddick said:
I’m assuming English isn’t your first language?RonnieMoore said:London not the pull to players then it use to be in fact I think it puts players or at least their wife’s now with the state of our capital city as it is …
Any real fan would say "supporting Charlton since 1968"1 -
ElfsborgAddick said:ThomasOliver3 said:To add to the above my lad is a GK at Aldershot currently has quite a lot of interest in him. He's on trial at Chelsea and lined up to go into Swindon if that doesn't work out (likely)
A couple of weeks ago Southampton sent a scout down and while he got good feedback personally the coach told me all he wanted to talk about was our number 9. A 6ft 4in 15YO striker who's build like a young AJ.
The feedback was all clubs are desperate to find 9's and left footed defenders. It goes to show at all levels the big clubs are desperate to find the next big striker and will pay good money to do so even if that means stockpiling or
Are you sure it was?
Well he was stood by a tree with his phone out so assumed he was from the South coast
2 -
@Henry Irving could the museum procure this?RonnieMoore said:
Who been going to the valley since 1968 and still owns Ronnie Moore little toe ….Henry Irving said:
Millwall fan, what can you expect?LargeAddick said:
I’m assuming English isn’t your first language?RonnieMoore said:London not the pull to players then it use to be in fact I think it puts players or at least their wife’s now with the state of our capital city as it is …5 -
I'd not take less than £2m for Kanu, but then I don't work for the club so can't sell him.
2 -
And if he does that, that's fine.NabySarr said:
This is a great plan and I hope it happens but there’s a decent chance Kanu turns around and says no I don’t want to sign a new deal just to go out on loan again, either give me a chance in the squad or I’m offAthletico Charlton said:Kanu is 21, works incredibly hard on the pitch, but more importantly, incredibly hard off it to maximize his potential. He has scored goals every level he has played at consistently.
He just scored 15 goals in 38 league two starts for a team that finished in the bottom half. None were penalties. He did a clean sweep of Wallsall's awards and won L2 young player of the season iirc.
We should hold onto him, give him another year or two on his contract at decent L1 level wages and tell him we are loaning him to a top L1 club next season until January so he can prove he is worthy of coming back to our championship squad.
If we resign Godden I would expect it to be for 1 year.
£750K wouldn't even have got you Ahadme 2 years ago.
I want us to be ruthless with flops like Apter, Burke, Tanto, Kaminski and with some of the mediocre like Coventry and Dykes. Not with young players with potential and who are hungry and angry.2 -
First real game I remember was 2-0 win over Derby with Matt Tees and Ray Tracey scoring the goals … January 1969eastterrace6168 said:
That was my first Charlton game, and we won 1-0...Henry Irving said:
Since Millwall played us at the Valley in 1968 you mean.RonnieMoore said:
Who been going to the valley since 1968 and still owns Ronnie Moore little toe ….Henry Irving said:
Millwall fan, what can you expect?LargeAddick said:
I’m assuming English isn’t your first language?RonnieMoore said:London not the pull to players then it use to be in fact I think it puts players or at least their wife’s now with the state of our capital city as it is …
Any real fan would say "supporting Charlton since 1968"5 -
We could do with those two right now.1
-
Mars bars, beanos and Ray TreacyRonnieMoore said:
First real game I remember was 2-0 win over Derby with Matt Tees and Ray Tracey scoring the goals … January 1969eastterrace6168 said:
That was my first Charlton game, and we won 1-0...Henry Irving said:
Since Millwall played us at the Valley in 1968 you mean.RonnieMoore said:
Who been going to the valley since 1968 and still owns Ronnie Moore little toe ….Henry Irving said:
Millwall fan, what can you expect?LargeAddick said:
I’m assuming English isn’t your first language?RonnieMoore said:London not the pull to players then it use to be in fact I think it puts players or at least their wife’s now with the state of our capital city as it is …
Any real fan would say "supporting Charlton since 1968"3 -
My first match was Charlton v QPR FA Cup Jan 1970. We lost 3-2 but nevertheless I was hooked and been addicted to losing ever since !1
-
We already have a couple of the "I helped buy Ronnie Moore" certificates that we're given out when fans tried to raise funds to help pay the £30k fee for the Rotherham PeleEugenesAxe said:
@Henry Irving could the museum procure this?RonnieMoore said:
Who been going to the valley since 1968 and still owns Ronnie Moore little toe ….Henry Irving said:
Millwall fan, what can you expect?LargeAddick said:
I’m assuming English isn’t your first language?RonnieMoore said:London not the pull to players then it use to be in fact I think it puts players or at least their wife’s now with the state of our capital city as it is …2 -
Sponsored links:
-
Ruthless means primarily ditching the dross, Ahadme, Olaofe, Apter, A Mitchell etc, not having them hanging around the first team squad like a bad smell. The youngsters can be loaned out unless there is a very big fee for them (very unlikely).CharltonManor1966 said:
So if Jones is going to be ruthless to keep us in the division, he could possibly sell Kanu, Leaburn and TC to help with the PSR and maybe go for broke with championship quality and experience............ just saying.....?shine166 said:
Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give.Redhenry said:Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill.
The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...1 -
I'm not so sure that "ruthless" means just getting rid of unwanted players.Southbank said:
Ruthless means primarily ditching the dross, Ahadme, Olaofe, Apter, A Mitchell etc, not having them hanging around the first team squad like a bad smell. The youngsters can be loaned out unless there is a very big fee for them (very unlikely).CharltonManor1966 said:
So if Jones is going to be ruthless to keep us in the division, he could possibly sell Kanu, Leaburn and TC to help with the PSR and maybe go for broke with championship quality and experience............ just saying.....?shine166 said:
Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give.Redhenry said:Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill.
The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
I suspect it means moving on players who've done well for us and some from our academy as well as those signings who've not cut the mustard.16 -
Agreed, it's an easy decision to get rid of players that haven't really been able to contribute. "Ruthless" is putting aside emotion/loyalty around players who have helped get us this far, or been at the club a long time, but aren't considered good enough to help the club progress.Henry Irving said:
I'm not so sure that "ruthless" means just getting rid of unwanted players.Southbank said:
Ruthless means primarily ditching the dross, Ahadme, Olaofe, Apter, A Mitchell etc, not having them hanging around the first team squad like a bad smell. The youngsters can be loaned out unless there is a very big fee for them (very unlikely).CharltonManor1966 said:
So if Jones is going to be ruthless to keep us in the division, he could possibly sell Kanu, Leaburn and TC to help with the PSR and maybe go for broke with championship quality and experience............ just saying.....?shine166 said:
Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give.Redhenry said:Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill.
The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
I suspect it means moving on players who've done well for us and some from our academy as well as those signings who've not cut the mustard.
I'm not saying all these players will be moved on, or that it's an extensive list, but some names who I would think NJ might be pondering being "ruthless" with are Mannion, Kaminski, Gillesphey, Doc, Coventry, Knibbs, Leaburn, Karoy, Kanu, Asiimwe, and Burke.6 -
That's my thinking.Exiled_Addick said:
Agreed, it's an easy decision to get rid of players that haven't really been able to contribute. "Ruthless" is putting aside emotion/loyalty around players who have helped get us this far, or been at the club a long time, but aren't considered good enough to help the club progress.Henry Irving said:
I'm not so sure that "ruthless" means just getting rid of unwanted players.Southbank said:
Ruthless means primarily ditching the dross, Ahadme, Olaofe, Apter, A Mitchell etc, not having them hanging around the first team squad like a bad smell. The youngsters can be loaned out unless there is a very big fee for them (very unlikely).CharltonManor1966 said:
So if Jones is going to be ruthless to keep us in the division, he could possibly sell Kanu, Leaburn and TC to help with the PSR and maybe go for broke with championship quality and experience............ just saying.....?shine166 said:
Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give.Redhenry said:Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill.
The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
I suspect it means moving on players who've done well for us and some from our academy as well as those signings who've not cut the mustard.
I'm not saying all these players will be moved on, or that it's an extensive list, but some names who I would think NJ might be pondering being "ruthless" with are Mannion, Kaminski, Gillesphey, Doc, Coventry, Knibbs, Leaburn, Karoy, Kanu, Asiimwe, and Burke.
We'll disagree about individual names on your list but that is how I read "ruthless".4 -
Hearts making some interesting signings. I wonder how our player analysis compares to Tony Bloom’s!0
-
I think & hope Doc will stay as a squad player but agree with most of the other names you mention.Exiled_Addick said:
Agreed, it's an easy decision to get rid of players that haven't really been able to contribute. "Ruthless" is putting aside emotion/loyalty around players who have helped get us this far, or been at the club a long time, but aren't considered good enough to help the club progress.Henry Irving said:
I'm not so sure that "ruthless" means just getting rid of unwanted players.Southbank said:
Ruthless means primarily ditching the dross, Ahadme, Olaofe, Apter, A Mitchell etc, not having them hanging around the first team squad like a bad smell. The youngsters can be loaned out unless there is a very big fee for them (very unlikely).CharltonManor1966 said:
So if Jones is going to be ruthless to keep us in the division, he could possibly sell Kanu, Leaburn and TC to help with the PSR and maybe go for broke with championship quality and experience............ just saying.....?shine166 said:
Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give.Redhenry said:Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill.
The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
I suspect it means moving on players who've done well for us and some from our academy as well as those signings who've not cut the mustard.
I'm not saying all these players will be moved on, or that it's an extensive list, but some names who I would think NJ might be pondering being "ruthless" with are Mannion, Kaminski, Gillesphey, Doc, Coventry, Knibbs, Leaburn, Karoy, Kanu, Asiimwe, and Burke.
The challenge will be finding clubs that can match the current wages that the likes of Kaminski, Burke & Knibbs earn. Can’t see there being a big queue of clubs willing to do that.0 -
I had never once thought he was dyslexic. He’s one enormous troll, who posts on various sites using multiple names and has done for years. Most of the time it is utter garbage and most of us try and just move on. Dyslexia affects reading, writing & spelling, not a person’s intelligence and, as far as I can remember, he’s widely derided for the stuff he posts rather than any spelling/grammar issues.raytreacy said:
You do realise he is dyslexic don’t you. I can’t stand Ronnie Moore’s posts. But the bullying on here is unacceptable.EugenesAxe said:
couldn't of put it better then that myselfcaptainbob said:
I not could' of put better my shelf.RonnieMoore said:London not the pull to players then it use to be in fact I think it puts players or at least their wife’s now with the state of our capital city as it is …12 -
Yeah, me too, I think. This isn't a list of players I necessarily think should be moved on, and I certainly doubt that they all would be. Apart from anything else, I just don't think we could release and replace that many players in one summer.Oh Eddie Youds... said:
I think & hope Doc will stay as a squad player but agree with most of the other names you mention.Exiled_Addick said:
Agreed, it's an easy decision to get rid of players that haven't really been able to contribute. "Ruthless" is putting aside emotion/loyalty around players who have helped get us this far, or been at the club a long time, but aren't considered good enough to help the club progress.Henry Irving said:
I'm not so sure that "ruthless" means just getting rid of unwanted players.Southbank said:
Ruthless means primarily ditching the dross, Ahadme, Olaofe, Apter, A Mitchell etc, not having them hanging around the first team squad like a bad smell. The youngsters can be loaned out unless there is a very big fee for them (very unlikely).CharltonManor1966 said:
So if Jones is going to be ruthless to keep us in the division, he could possibly sell Kanu, Leaburn and TC to help with the PSR and maybe go for broke with championship quality and experience............ just saying.....?shine166 said:
Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give.Redhenry said:Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill.
The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
I suspect it means moving on players who've done well for us and some from our academy as well as those signings who've not cut the mustard.
I'm not saying all these players will be moved on, or that it's an extensive list, but some names who I would think NJ might be pondering being "ruthless" with are Mannion, Kaminski, Gillesphey, Doc, Coventry, Knibbs, Leaburn, Karoy, Kanu, Asiimwe, and Burke.
The challenge will be finding clubs that can match the current wages that the likes of Kaminski, Burke & Knibbs earn. Can’t see there being a big queue of clubs willing to do that.
Leaburn is another one I would not want to give up on yet and probably also Knibbs and Kanu. And I'm on the fence about Karoy. I can just envisage that NJ, at some point at least, will have or will be considering if they are the right players to help take us forward. Some of them he may have thought about and decided, yes, he does want them around for at least one more season. Some he might want out. Some he might be willing to let go for a reasonable fee that bolsters his transfer kitty.
But I do think they're all players that it's not inconceivable that they could be moved on.6 -
I suspect four or five of that group will be in the starting lineup in August.Exiled_Addick said:
Agreed, it's an easy decision to get rid of players that haven't really been able to contribute. "Ruthless" is putting aside emotion/loyalty around players who have helped get us this far, or been at the club a long time, but aren't considered good enough to help the club progress.Henry Irving said:
I'm not so sure that "ruthless" means just getting rid of unwanted players.Southbank said:
Ruthless means primarily ditching the dross, Ahadme, Olaofe, Apter, A Mitchell etc, not having them hanging around the first team squad like a bad smell. The youngsters can be loaned out unless there is a very big fee for them (very unlikely).CharltonManor1966 said:
So if Jones is going to be ruthless to keep us in the division, he could possibly sell Kanu, Leaburn and TC to help with the PSR and maybe go for broke with championship quality and experience............ just saying.....?shine166 said:
Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give.Redhenry said:Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill.
The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
I suspect it means moving on players who've done well for us and some from our academy as well as those signings who've not cut the mustard.
I'm not saying all these players will be moved on, or that it's an extensive list, but some names who I would think NJ might be pondering being "ruthless" with are Mannion, Kaminski, Gillesphey, Doc, Coventry, Knibbs, Leaburn, Karoy, Kanu, Asiimwe, and Burke.2 -
This will be hard with having one eye on how much dough we'd lose.Southbank said:
Ruthless means primarily ditching the dross, Ahadme, Olaofe, Apter, A Mitchell etc, not having them hanging around the first team squad like a bad smell. The youngsters can be loaned out unless there is a very big fee for them (very unlikely).CharltonManor1966 said:
So if Jones is going to be ruthless to keep us in the division, he could possibly sell Kanu, Leaburn and TC to help with the PSR and maybe go for broke with championship quality and experience............ just saying.....?shine166 said:
Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give.Redhenry said:Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill.
The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
Olaofe and Apter hopefully will come good.0 -
Sponsored links:
-
Id get rid of one of the keepers, gillesphey, karoy, asimwe and burke. If kanu won't sign a new contract id sell him to too. Leaburn is still a bit of a wildcard, I don't think he will make it at this level, but he has the attributes to. Would sell him if a decent bid came in but can't see one being big enough to be worthwhileSouthbank said:
I suspect four or five of that group will be in the starting lineup in August.Exiled_Addick said:
Agreed, it's an easy decision to get rid of players that haven't really been able to contribute. "Ruthless" is putting aside emotion/loyalty around players who have helped get us this far, or been at the club a long time, but aren't considered good enough to help the club progress.Henry Irving said:
I'm not so sure that "ruthless" means just getting rid of unwanted players.Southbank said:
Ruthless means primarily ditching the dross, Ahadme, Olaofe, Apter, A Mitchell etc, not having them hanging around the first team squad like a bad smell. The youngsters can be loaned out unless there is a very big fee for them (very unlikely).CharltonManor1966 said:
So if Jones is going to be ruthless to keep us in the division, he could possibly sell Kanu, Leaburn and TC to help with the PSR and maybe go for broke with championship quality and experience............ just saying.....?shine166 said:
Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give.Redhenry said:Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill.
The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
I suspect it means moving on players who've done well for us and some from our academy as well as those signings who've not cut the mustard.
I'm not saying all these players will be moved on, or that it's an extensive list, but some names who I would think NJ might be pondering being "ruthless" with are Mannion, Kaminski, Gillesphey, Doc, Coventry, Knibbs, Leaburn, Karoy, Kanu, Asiimwe, and Burke.2 -
Exiled_Addick said:
Yeah, me too, I think. This isn't a list of players I necessarily think should be moved on, and I certainly doubt that they all would be. Apart from anything else, I just don't think we could release and replace that many platers in one summer.Oh Eddie Youds... said:
I think & hope Doc will stay as a squad player but agree with most of the other names you mention.Exiled_Addick said:
Agreed, it's an easy decision to get rid of players that haven't really been able to contribute. "Ruthless" is putting aside emotion/loyalty around players who have helped get us this far, or been at the club a long time, but aren't considered good enough to help the club progress.Henry Irving said:
I'm not so sure that "ruthless" means just getting rid of unwanted players.Southbank said:
Ruthless means primarily ditching the dross, Ahadme, Olaofe, Apter, A Mitchell etc, not having them hanging around the first team squad like a bad smell. The youngsters can be loaned out unless there is a very big fee for them (very unlikely).CharltonManor1966 said:
So if Jones is going to be ruthless to keep us in the division, he could possibly sell Kanu, Leaburn and TC to help with the PSR and maybe go for broke with championship quality and experience............ just saying.....?shine166 said:
Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give.Redhenry said:Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill.
The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
I suspect it means moving on players who've done well for us and some from our academy as well as those signings who've not cut the mustard.
I'm not saying all these players will be moved on, or that it's an extensive list, but some names who I would think NJ might be pondering being "ruthless" with are Mannion, Kaminski, Gillesphey, Doc, Coventry, Knibbs, Leaburn, Karoy, Kanu, Asiimwe, and Burke.
The challenge will be finding clubs that can match the current wages that the likes of Kaminski, Burke & Knibbs earn. Can’t see there being a big queue of clubs willing to do that.
Leaburn is another one I would not want to give up on yet and probably also Knibbs and Kanu. And I'm on the fence about Karoy. I can just envisage that NJ, at some point at least, will have or will be considering if they are the right players to help take us forward. Some of them he may have thought about and decided, yes, he does want them around for at least one more season. Some he might want out. Some he might be willing to let go for a reasonable fee that bolsters his transfer kitty.
But I do think they're all players that it's not inconceivable that they could be moved on.Kaminski - Not justifying wages
Mannion - May want 1st team football
Apter - Failed L1 loan not a Jones player
Asiimwe - Needs regular mins to develop
Ramsay - 1 year left on deal
A.Mitchell - Stocks high wants move
Z. Mitchell - Needs mins to develop
Jones - 1 year left on deal
Macca - Proven he’s not at this level
Coventry - In and out of team, pref Coady
Doc - no on the ball abilityAnderson - Needs regular mins to develop
JRC- Jones hardly used him
Carey - Output could possibly get big bid
Fullah - Needs regular men’s football
Kelman - Jones doesn’t rate him
Tanto - Failed L1 loan
TC - 1 year left on deal
Kanu - 1 year left on deal, stocks high, L1 loan?
Dixon - Not good enough
Ahadme - Not good enough
Leaburn - Lack of consistency.
now obviously we won’t sell everyone eg reckon Doc stays but genuinely believe there’s an argument that a lot of players have reasoning they could be moved on.Sichenje (new signing), Burke (no club gambles on wages), Bell (good, injury prone + age won’t attract offers), Edwards (rated/good + injuries may put offers off), Knibbs (injuries give him BOD and won’t get offer that matches what we paid) are the only players I can’t see a reason we’d either be open to letting go or could tempt other clubs to make offers for those players.Only thing we can do is wait to see what NJ has in store10 -
Jones will be ruthless but he doesn't seem to know a good player from a bad.
His recruitment, even outside ex-Luton players has been poor. His most expensive signing, a striker with 7 goals is marmite. He has spent millions on players who have been dropped, injured, or out on loan.8 -
Gisappointed said:Jones will be ruthless but he doesn't seem to know a good player from a bad.
His recruitment, even outside ex-Luton players has been poor. His most expensive signing, a striker with 7 goals is marmite. He has spent millions on players who have been dropped, injured, or out on loan.I agree with the above.What I hope is that Chapple has a lot more influence and that the January window 'success' was down to him. This window kept us up.5 -
I think it's pretty clear that last summer window Chapple hadn't got settled. The signings can be set categorised easily into L1 players Jones had seen, players they both knew (Bell, Burke, Bree) and players Chapple had at Luton (Kaminski) or would have taken there (JRC). By January, you had the wildcard overseas signing (Sichenje), the one NJ really liked (Dykes), the smart move (Fevrier) and the solid Championship experienced players (Coady, Clarke). It's a clear progression with a more settled recruitment teamElfsborgAddick said:Gisappointed said:Jones will be ruthless but he doesn't seem to know a good player from a bad.
His recruitment, even outside ex-Luton players has been poor. His most expensive signing, a striker with 7 goals is marmite. He has spent millions on players who have been dropped, injured, or out on loan.I agree with the above.What I hope is that Chapple has a lot more influence and that the January window 'success' was down to him. This window kept us up.8 -
I remember contributing to that, he signed for the club, did we reach the target or did the club chip in?Henry Irving said:
We already have a couple of the "I helped buy Ronnie Moore" certificates that we're given out when fans tried to raise funds to help pay the £30k fee for the Rotherham PeleEugenesAxe said:
@Henry Irving could the museum procure this?RonnieMoore said:
Who been going to the valley since 1968 and still owns Ronnie Moore little toe ….Henry Irving said:
Millwall fan, what can you expect?LargeAddick said:
I’m assuming English isn’t your first language?RonnieMoore said:London not the pull to players then it use to be in fact I think it puts players or at least their wife’s now with the state of our capital city as it is …0 -
Crispywood said:Exiled_Addick said:
Yeah, me too, I think. This isn't a list of players I necessarily think should be moved on, and I certainly doubt that they all would be. Apart from anything else, I just don't think we could release and replace that many platers in one summer.Oh Eddie Youds... said:
I think & hope Doc will stay as a squad player but agree with most of the other names you mention.Exiled_Addick said:
Agreed, it's an easy decision to get rid of players that haven't really been able to contribute. "Ruthless" is putting aside emotion/loyalty around players who have helped get us this far, or been at the club a long time, but aren't considered good enough to help the club progress.Henry Irving said:
I'm not so sure that "ruthless" means just getting rid of unwanted players.Southbank said:
Ruthless means primarily ditching the dross, Ahadme, Olaofe, Apter, A Mitchell etc, not having them hanging around the first team squad like a bad smell. The youngsters can be loaned out unless there is a very big fee for them (very unlikely).CharltonManor1966 said:
So if Jones is going to be ruthless to keep us in the division, he could possibly sell Kanu, Leaburn and TC to help with the PSR and maybe go for broke with championship quality and experience............ just saying.....?shine166 said:
Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give.Redhenry said:Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill.
The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
I suspect it means moving on players who've done well for us and some from our academy as well as those signings who've not cut the mustard.
I'm not saying all these players will be moved on, or that it's an extensive list, but some names who I would think NJ might be pondering being "ruthless" with are Mannion, Kaminski, Gillesphey, Doc, Coventry, Knibbs, Leaburn, Karoy, Kanu, Asiimwe, and Burke.
The challenge will be finding clubs that can match the current wages that the likes of Kaminski, Burke & Knibbs earn. Can’t see there being a big queue of clubs willing to do that.
Leaburn is another one I would not want to give up on yet and probably also Knibbs and Kanu. And I'm on the fence about Karoy. I can just envisage that NJ, at some point at least, will have or will be considering if they are the right players to help take us forward. Some of them he may have thought about and decided, yes, he does want them around for at least one more season. Some he might want out. Some he might be willing to let go for a reasonable fee that bolsters his transfer kitty.
But I do think they're all players that it's not inconceivable that they could be moved on.Kaminski - Not justifying wages
Mannion - May want 1st team football
Apter - Failed L1 loan not a Jones player
Asiimwe - Needs regular mins to develop
Ramsay - 1 year left on deal
A.Mitchell - Stocks high wants move
Z. Mitchell - Needs mins to develop
Jones - 1 year left on deal
Macca - Proven he’s not at this level
Coventry - In and out of team, pref Coady
Doc - no on the ball abilityAnderson - Needs regular mins to develop
JRC- Jones hardly used him
Carey - Output could possibly get big bid
Fullah - Needs regular men’s football
Kelman - Jones doesn’t rate him
Tanto - Failed L1 loan
TC - 1 year left on deal
Kanu - 1 year left on deal, stocks high, L1 loan?
Dixon - Not good enough
Ahadme - Not good enough
Leaburn - Lack of consistency.
now obviously we won’t sell everyone eg reckon Doc stays but genuinely believe there’s an argument that a lot of players have reasoning they could be moved on.Sichenje (new signing), Burke (no club gambles on wages), Bell (good, injury prone + age won’t attract offers), Edwards (rated/good + injuries may put offers off), Knibbs (injuries give him BOD and won’t get offer that matches what we paid) are the only players I can’t see a reason we’d either be open to letting go or could tempt other clubs to make offers for those players.Only thing we can do is wait to see what NJ has in storeI agree with the above and will not go down the road of who could go, suffice to say normally you'll see almost 10 new players come in.1 -
I’m hoping we need less than that this summer. Some interesting stats on number of signings and teams that do well tend to do less signings than averageElfsborgAddick said:Crispywood said:Exiled_Addick said:
Yeah, me too, I think. This isn't a list of players I necessarily think should be moved on, and I certainly doubt that they all would be. Apart from anything else, I just don't think we could release and replace that many platers in one summer.Oh Eddie Youds... said:
I think & hope Doc will stay as a squad player but agree with most of the other names you mention.Exiled_Addick said:
Agreed, it's an easy decision to get rid of players that haven't really been able to contribute. "Ruthless" is putting aside emotion/loyalty around players who have helped get us this far, or been at the club a long time, but aren't considered good enough to help the club progress.Henry Irving said:
I'm not so sure that "ruthless" means just getting rid of unwanted players.Southbank said:
Ruthless means primarily ditching the dross, Ahadme, Olaofe, Apter, A Mitchell etc, not having them hanging around the first team squad like a bad smell. The youngsters can be loaned out unless there is a very big fee for them (very unlikely).CharltonManor1966 said:
So if Jones is going to be ruthless to keep us in the division, he could possibly sell Kanu, Leaburn and TC to help with the PSR and maybe go for broke with championship quality and experience............ just saying.....?shine166 said:
Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give.Redhenry said:Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill.
The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
I suspect it means moving on players who've done well for us and some from our academy as well as those signings who've not cut the mustard.
I'm not saying all these players will be moved on, or that it's an extensive list, but some names who I would think NJ might be pondering being "ruthless" with are Mannion, Kaminski, Gillesphey, Doc, Coventry, Knibbs, Leaburn, Karoy, Kanu, Asiimwe, and Burke.
The challenge will be finding clubs that can match the current wages that the likes of Kaminski, Burke & Knibbs earn. Can’t see there being a big queue of clubs willing to do that.
Leaburn is another one I would not want to give up on yet and probably also Knibbs and Kanu. And I'm on the fence about Karoy. I can just envisage that NJ, at some point at least, will have or will be considering if they are the right players to help take us forward. Some of them he may have thought about and decided, yes, he does want them around for at least one more season. Some he might want out. Some he might be willing to let go for a reasonable fee that bolsters his transfer kitty.
But I do think they're all players that it's not inconceivable that they could be moved on.Kaminski - Not justifying wages
Mannion - May want 1st team football
Apter - Failed L1 loan not a Jones player
Asiimwe - Needs regular mins to develop
Ramsay - 1 year left on deal
A.Mitchell - Stocks high wants move
Z. Mitchell - Needs mins to develop
Jones - 1 year left on deal
Macca - Proven he’s not at this level
Coventry - In and out of team, pref Coady
Doc - no on the ball abilityAnderson - Needs regular mins to develop
JRC- Jones hardly used him
Carey - Output could possibly get big bid
Fullah - Needs regular men’s football
Kelman - Jones doesn’t rate him
Tanto - Failed L1 loan
TC - 1 year left on deal
Kanu - 1 year left on deal, stocks high, L1 loan?
Dixon - Not good enough
Ahadme - Not good enough
Leaburn - Lack of consistency.
now obviously we won’t sell everyone eg reckon Doc stays but genuinely believe there’s an argument that a lot of players have reasoning they could be moved on.Sichenje (new signing), Burke (no club gambles on wages), Bell (good, injury prone + age won’t attract offers), Edwards (rated/good + injuries may put offers off), Knibbs (injuries give him BOD and won’t get offer that matches what we paid) are the only players I can’t see a reason we’d either be open to letting go or could tempt other clubs to make offers for those players.Only thing we can do is wait to see what NJ has in storeI agree with the above and will not go down the road of who could go, suffice to say normally you'll see almost 10 new players come in.
It’s natural for us all to want lots of new players because it’s exciting. I think last season in the EFL showed that it’s actually better to have less overhaul, and actually develop the players you have (which seems to be a forgotten element of football these days as everyone wants instant success and lots of new signings). We obviously need some areas strengthened but I hope we don’t go too crazy and we let Jones do what he’s paid to do and develop our players3 -
ElfsborgAddick said:Gisappointed said:Jones will be ruthless but he doesn't seem to know a good player from a bad.
His recruitment, even outside ex-Luton players has been poor. His most expensive signing, a striker with 7 goals is marmite. He has spent millions on players who have been dropped, injured, or out on loan.I agree with the above.What I hope is that Chapple has a lot more influence and that the January window 'success' was down to him. This window kept us up.
Thing with Chappel is 6 weeks after he joined last summer we signed Kaminski for £1M on reportedly high wages from the club Chappel had worked at previously. I know it's just one player, but I can't see how Chappel wasn't influential on that and it's a worry.
It's silly to say recruitment has been poor when we have been promoted and stayed up but I definitely think there is huge room for improvement and if we are ever to move on like a Millwall, Coventry, Hull etc then it's the one part of the club that needs to massively over perform.2 -
Tbf any championship team needing a keeper would’ve probably considered TK given his performance in the prem and the promotion season.Athletico Charlton said:ElfsborgAddick said:Gisappointed said:Jones will be ruthless but he doesn't seem to know a good player from a bad.
His recruitment, even outside ex-Luton players has been poor. His most expensive signing, a striker with 7 goals is marmite. He has spent millions on players who have been dropped, injured, or out on loan.I agree with the above.What I hope is that Chapple has a lot more influence and that the January window 'success' was down to him. This window kept us up.
Thing with Chappel is 6 weeks after he joined last summer we signed Kaminski for £1M on reportedly high wages from the club Chappel had worked at previously. I know it's just one player, but I can't see how Chappel wasn't influential on that and it's a worry.
It's silly to say recruitment has been poor when we have been promoted and stayed up but I definitely think there is huge room for improvement and if we are ever to move on like a Millwall, Coventry, Hull etc then it's the one part of the club that needs to massively over perform.10
