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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,433
    Sword65pf said:
    Sword65pf said:
    If we stay up, Lewis Wing is clearly one of the best attacking midfielders in L1. 11 goals and 11 assists in an unexceptional Reading team are very good numbers. Good at set pieces, and he's played every game, and nearly every minute.

    Perhaps we could offer them Knibbs back as part of the deal...
    Shouldn’t we learn our lesson with signing league 1 top players??
    Nothing wrong with signing the right L1 players. The right players, and ones that fit your system, rather than just hoovering up players because their numbers look good.

    Makama and Galbriath stepped up successfully, Burrell was having a great season at QPR before his injury.

    Millwall signed Azeez from Reading in 2024, he's now one of the best players in the Championship.
    But we didn’t, do the profile of players you mention want to play for jones?, are we as a club prepared to pay for those players? Many of us were satisfied with the punts we took this season from league 1, went a bit tits up.
    We weren’t an established championship team so we couldn’t buy the best league 1 players. They went to established championship teams instead. If we stay up we’ve got more chance this summer, but the more years we are at this level the better the player we will be able to attract whether that’s from league 1, championship or abroad 
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,408
    There can't be many more players available next season that played for NJ with Luton 😆
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,708
    NabySarr said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Sword65pf said:
    If we stay up, Lewis Wing is clearly one of the best attacking midfielders in L1. 11 goals and 11 assists in an unexceptional Reading team are very good numbers. Good at set pieces, and he's played every game, and nearly every minute.

    Perhaps we could offer them Knibbs back as part of the deal...
    Shouldn’t we learn our lesson with signing league 1 top players??
    Nothing wrong with signing the right L1 players. The right players, and ones that fit your system, rather than just hoovering up players because their numbers look good.

    Makama and Galbriath stepped up successfully, Burrell was having a great season at QPR before his injury.

    Millwall signed Azeez from Reading in 2024, he's now one of the best players in the Championship.
    But we didn’t, do the profile of players you mention want to play for jones?, are we as a club prepared to pay for those players? Many of us were satisfied with the punts we took this season from league 1, went a bit tits up.
    We weren’t an established championship team so we couldn’t buy the best league 1 players. They went to established championship teams instead. If we stay up we’ve got more chance this summer, but the more years we are at this level the better the player we will be able to attract whether that’s from league 1, championship or abroad 
    Should we stay up, we need to become very attractive..  and fast otherwise after next season we may become very unattractive again!!, lessons  need to be taken from this season, the end to our season has been fucking awful.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,640
    ross1 said:
    There can't be many more players available next season that played for NJ with Luton 😆
    Jordan Clark would be an unsurprising target. 11 goals from midfield for Luton and NJs second favourite player ever behind Luke Berry 
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,307
    edited April 24
    Wage constraints would have been a major factor for us last summer, whilst being most people's favourites for relegation would hardly have helped make us an attractive proposition. Going up with Wrexham and Birmingham also created difficulties, given that their level of spending further distorted an already difficult market.

    In those circumstances, signing League 1 players with the ability and potential to step up was a reasonable and pragmatic policy - the problem is that the ones we acquired don't fit the bill, both in terms of the quality required at Championship level and fitting into Nathan Jones' particular style of football. We reportedly spent around £8 million on Kelman, Olaofe, Apter and Knibbs and, if we're honest with ourselves, each of those signings has proved a big disappointment and not up to the required level. I'd love to be proved wrong but I don't buy Nathan's guff about them being 3 and 4 year 'projects'; the reality is that if we could recoup a chunk of what we paid for any of them, we'd happily unload them.

    Assuming we do stay up, a major overhaul of the squad will be required. That is quite a task and I'm afraid the difficulties will be exacerbated by both a 21st finish this season, which will make us one of the bookies' favourites for relegation, and our reputation as a kick and rush team. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,696
    Blucher said:
    Wage constraints would have been a major factor for us last summer, whilst being most people's favourites for relegation would hardly have helped make us an attractive proposition. Going up with Wrexham and Birmingham also created difficulties, given that their level of spending further distorted an already difficult market.

    In those circumstances, signing League 1 players with the ability and potential to step up was a reasonable and pragmatic policy - the problem is that the ones we acquired don't fit the bill, both in terms of the quality required at Championship level and fitting into Nathan Jones' particular style of football. We reportedly spent around £8 million on Kelman, Olaofe, Apter and Knibbs and, if we're honest with ourselves, each of those signings has proved a big disappointment and not up to the required level. I'd love to be proved wrong but I don't buy Nathan's guff about them being 3 and 4 year 'projects'; the reality is that if we could recoup a chunk of what we paid for any of them, we'd happily unload them.

    Assuming we do stay up, a major overhaul of the squad will be required. That is quite a task and I'm afraid the difficulties will be exacerbated by both a 21st finish this season, which will make us one of the bookies' favourites for relagation, and our reputation as a kick and rush team. 
    The style of football will definitely put off "classy" midfielders who've seen how direct we are. And indeed with potential loan players, their parent clubs, who if they play more of a  passing style will want a loan club to play in a similar way.

    Would Chelsea loan the 2026 equivalent of 2019's Conor Gallagher to us. I doubt it...
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,884
    Blucher said:
    Wage constraints would have been a major factor for us last summer, whilst being most people's favourites for relegation would hardly have helped make us an attractive proposition. Going up with Wrexham and Birmingham also created difficulties, given that their level of spending further distorted an already difficult market.

    In those circumstances, signing League 1 players with the ability and potential to step up was a reasonable and pragmatic policy - the problem is that the ones we acquired don't fit the bill, both in terms of the quality required at Championship level and fitting into Nathan Jones' particular style of football. We reportedly spent around £8 million on Kelman, Olaofe, Apter and Knibbs and, if we're honest with ourselves, each of those signings has proved a big disappointment and not up to the required level. I'd love to be proved wrong but I don't buy Nathan's guff about them being 3 and 4 year 'projects'; the reality is that if we could recoup a chunk of what we paid for any of them, we'd happily unload them.

    Assuming we do stay up, a major overhaul of the squad will be required. That is quite a task and I'm afraid the difficulties will be exacerbated by both a 21st finish this season, which will make us one of the bookies' favourites for relagation, and our reputation as a kick and rush team. 
    The style of football will definitely put off "classy" midfielders who've seen how direct we are. And indeed with potential loan players, their parent clubs, who if they play more of a  passing style will want a loan club to play in a similar way.

    Would Chelsea loan the 2026 equivalent of 2019's Conor Gallagher to us. I doubt it...
    No but we might get the equivalent of Bielik, or Cullen
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 11,048
    Why wouldn’t Chelsea loan us a player? 

    I don’t know who the Chelsea loan manager is but surely he is a football person and understands this season is survival at all costs, next year we can hopefully attract better players and be more attacking 
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,843
    Blucher said:
    Wage constraints would have been a major factor for us last summer, whilst being most people's favourites for relegation would hardly have helped make us an attractive proposition. Going up with Wrexham and Birmingham also created difficulties, given that their level of spending further distorted an already difficult market.

    In those circumstances, signing League 1 players with the ability and potential to step up was a reasonable and pragmatic policy - the problem is that the ones we acquired don't fit the bill, both in terms of the quality required at Championship level and fitting into Nathan Jones' particular style of football. We reportedly spent around £8 million on Kelman, Olaofe, Apter and Knibbs and, if we're honest with ourselves, each of those signings has proved a big disappointment and not up to the required level. I'd love to be proved wrong but I don't buy Nathan's guff about them being 3 and 4 year 'projects'; the reality is that if we could recoup a chunk of what we paid for any of them, we'd happily unload them.

    Assuming we do stay up, a major overhaul of the squad will be required. That is quite a task and I'm afraid the difficulties will be exacerbated by both a 21st finish this season, which will make us one of the bookies' favourites for relagation, and our reputation as a kick and rush team. 
    The style of football will definitely put off "classy" midfielders who've seen how direct we are. And indeed with potential loan players, their parent clubs, who if they play more of a  passing style will want a loan club to play in a similar way.

    Would Chelsea loan the 2026 equivalent of 2019's Conor Gallagher to us. I doubt it...
    Is this even relevant when Nathan Jones doesn’t do prem youngsters on loan
  • Bournesnr
    Bournesnr Posts: 317
    Chambers????

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  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,843
    Bournesnr said:
    Chambers????
    that’s completely different when it was the January window and we were absolutely desperate for a LWB. At no point in that last two summer windows has Jones gone my starter for this position is going to be a prem youngster. Our loan signings tend to be people to plug gaps or experienced older players you can potentially make permanent
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,762
    Bournesnr said:
    Chambers????
    that’s completely different when it was the January window and we were absolutely desperate for a LWB. At no point in that last two summer windows has Jones gone my starter for this position is going to be a prem youngster. Our loan signings tend to be people to plug gaps or experienced older players you can potentially make permanent
    The Arsenal GK that went to La Liga instead?
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,577
    Bournesnr said:
    Chambers????
    that’s completely different when it was the January window and we were absolutely desperate for a LWB. At no point in that last two summer windows has Jones gone my starter for this position is going to be a prem youngster. Our loan signings tend to be people to plug gaps or experienced older players you can potentially make permanent
    Your earlier statement said 'Is this even relevant when Nathan Jones doesn’t do prem youngsters on loan'.

    Your statement has been proved incorrect, accept you're in the wrong, stop trying to wriggle out of it.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,843
    Scoham said:
    Bournesnr said:
    Chambers????
    that’s completely different when it was the January window and we were absolutely desperate for a LWB. At no point in that last two summer windows has Jones gone my starter for this position is going to be a prem youngster. Our loan signings tend to be people to plug gaps or experienced older players you can potentially make permanent
    The Arsenal GK that went to La Liga instead?
    After we had been rejected by Ruddy, Sinasalo, Begovic and Davies, point still stands Jones has never gone I want a talented young prem player on loan as a first resort to take us forward. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 18,151
    He's out of our reach but Dennis Cirkin is leaving Sunderland in the summer. Might mean a good left back comes available from higher in the division though
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,367
    Scoham said:
    Bournesnr said:
    Chambers????
    that’s completely different when it was the January window and we were absolutely desperate for a LWB. At no point in that last two summer windows has Jones gone my starter for this position is going to be a prem youngster. Our loan signings tend to be people to plug gaps or experienced older players you can potentially make permanent
    The Arsenal GK that went to La Liga instead?
    After we had been rejected by Ruddy, Sinasalo, Begovic and Davies, point still stands Jones has never gone I want a talented young prem player on loan as a first resort to take us forward. 
    I think we dodge a bullet not getting Begovic considering he has been relegated with Leicester.  Kiminski vibes....
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,433
    Scoham said:
    Bournesnr said:
    Chambers????
    that’s completely different when it was the January window and we were absolutely desperate for a LWB. At no point in that last two summer windows has Jones gone my starter for this position is going to be a prem youngster. Our loan signings tend to be people to plug gaps or experienced older players you can potentially make permanent
    The Arsenal GK that went to La Liga instead?
    After we had been rejected by Ruddy, Sinasalo, Begovic and Davies, point still stands Jones has never gone I want a talented young prem player on loan as a first resort to take us forward. 
    I mean surely this highlights that Jones might be getting more of the blame than is strictly fair. It's not as though he was after Kaminski thinking he was the ideal keeper. There was a long list of targets we went for first and some of those we know were serious targets that got rejected by the players/owning clubs.

    Probably quite a few of our other signings were similarly low on their respective lists. I'm not saying that Jones is blameless or hasn't made mistakes but I don't think we ended up signing mostly league one players because we genuinely thought it was the best way to do things.
  • We ended up with league one players because we would only pay league one wages.

    Take Sam Field in January. He would have been interested in Charlton (more chance of playing) but joined Norwich because they paid much more (money will always be the primary motivator above style of play & risk of being relegated).

    This summer we can either offer good championship contracts to players & kick on or we can repeat last summer & end up back in L1 (if that doesn’t happen earlier in a weeks time!)
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,276
    We ended up with league one players because we would only pay league one wages.

    Take Sam Field in January. He would have been interested in Charlton (more chance of playing) but joined Norwich because they paid much more (money will always be the primary motivator above style of play & risk of being relegated).

    This summer we can either offer good championship contracts to players & kick on or we can repeat last summer & end up back in L1 (if that doesn’t happen earlier in a weeks time!)
    Is it at easy as that without falling foul of the financial restrictions? I think we posted a £16m loss last year with those L1 wages. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 18,151
    Chunes said:
    We ended up with league one players because we would only pay league one wages.

    Take Sam Field in January. He would have been interested in Charlton (more chance of playing) but joined Norwich because they paid much more (money will always be the primary motivator above style of play & risk of being relegated).

    This summer we can either offer good championship contracts to players & kick on or we can repeat last summer & end up back in L1 (if that doesn’t happen earlier in a weeks time!)
    Is it at easy as that without falling foul of the financial restrictions? I think we posted a £16m loss last year with those L1 wages. 
    It's very tricky. Some of those losses don't count for restrictions as they're on academy/infrastructure. Ideally we probably need a sale or two to help. Berry's wages off the books might help as for L1 he will have been a high earner and then had a bump

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  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,843
    Chunes said:
    We ended up with league one players because we would only pay league one wages.

    Take Sam Field in January. He would have been interested in Charlton (more chance of playing) but joined Norwich because they paid much more (money will always be the primary motivator above style of play & risk of being relegated).

    This summer we can either offer good championship contracts to players & kick on or we can repeat last summer & end up back in L1 (if that doesn’t happen earlier in a weeks time!)
    Is it at easy as that without falling foul of the financial restrictions? I think we posted a £16m loss last year with those L1 wages. 
    Well we will generate at least an extra 10M in revenue this season compared to last 2M of that losses applies to academy and not championship ffp rules. 

    We should definitely be in a position to offer better wages if we sacrifice the amount of fees we’re spending on players. Just get players for the here and now worry about sell on potential later 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,308
    We seriously lack quality especially in midfield. 
    We need to go for quality over quantity. 
    Our squad is plenty big enough as it is.
    I would rather sign 4 or 5 players that will improve our starting eleven rather than sign about ten players who can't.
  • GreenWithEnvy
    GreenWithEnvy Posts: 1,868
    We seriously lack quality especially in midfield. 
    We need to go for quality over quantity. 
    Our squad is plenty big enough as it is.
    I would rather sign 4 or 5 players that will improve our starting eleven rather than sign about ten players who can't.
    problem with that approach is that when the injuries invariably pile up, we will be even more scewed.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,762
    https://x.com/norwichcityfc/status/2047699587289510270

    Norwich already announced who will be released

  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,276
    Scoham said:
    https://x.com/norwichcityfc/status/2047699587289510270

    Norwich already announced who will be released

    Can't believe Schlupp is only 33. Feels like he's been around forever. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,640
    Scoham said:
    https://x.com/norwichcityfc/status/2047699587289510270

    Norwich already announced who will be released

    Sam Field going back to QPR too 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 14,333
    edited April 24
    We seriously lack quality especially in midfield. 
    We need to go for quality over quantity. 
    Our squad is plenty big enough as it is.
    I would rather sign 4 or 5 players that will improve our starting eleven rather than sign about ten players who can't.
    Frustrates me when people say we need to sign 'X' player as back up, our next 4-5 signings need to be starters.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,843
    Talking about incomings being important I think this is the most important window we’ve ever had in terms of outgoings. We have a  squad next season of 32 (includes some of the fringe youngsters and loanees) who have played in the first team at some point. 

    Besides Mannion, Brooks, Sichenje, Ramsay, Jones, Bell, Edwards, Carey if he can find his form, there’s not really anyone I really want to keep and 2 of those are your 2nd+3rd choice keeper 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,884
    Scoham said:
    https://x.com/norwichcityfc/status/2047699587289510270

    Norwich already announced who will be released

    I imagine none of those will feature in their last 2 games now and they'll look to play youngsters and fringe players that they intend on keeping on
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,063
    I thought Springett looked useful against us at Carrow Road.