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EFL Playoffs 25/26 (Saints booted out of final and given 4 point deduction - pg34)
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Doubt they will sack the manager._MrDick said:I would expect Southampton to have a thorough investigation and sack all of those involved for gross misconduct. I have a small amount of sympathy for the intern as he was probably acting under instruction. But this is Southampton.. it’ll all probably be brushed under the carpet3 -
Eckert's job is now untenable in my opinion. He has to go.HastingsRed said:
Doubt they will sack the manager._MrDick said:I would expect Southampton to have a thorough investigation and sack all of those involved for gross misconduct. I have a small amount of sympathy for the intern as he was probably acting under instruction. But this is Southampton.. it’ll all probably be brushed under the carpet
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Against us at The Valley their press was exemplary - they knew exactly when to step forward out of possession and what risks to take when in possession.
I'm not suggesting they cheated on that occasion, but sadly doubt now exists.
Swansea a few weeks earlier were able to pass through us with ease (without taking their chances) and for me that was our wake up call of the season. That Swansea game gives me hope that Southampton simply turned up and played a blinder - that first half was a confidence crusher.3 -
No guarantee they would beat Hull so 🤷stevexreeve said:
The fine is effectively 100 million quid. This is the sort of money banks pay for crashing the economy or water companies pay for killing people with their shit.Arsenetatters said:Southampton to appeal today and the suggestion by the BBC that things could potentially change again.I can’t see what they can challenge tbh
I think there is a good argument that it is disproportionate!3 -
The fine isn’t effectively £100m.stevexreeve said:
The fine is effectively 100 million quid. This is the sort of money banks pay for crashing the economy or water companies pay for killing people with their shit.Arsenetatters said:Southampton to appeal today and the suggestion by the BBC that things could potentially change again.I can’t see what they can challenge tbh
I think there is a good argument that it is disproportionate!5 -
I wonder if the EFL got access to the intern’s credit card details, would they see a pattern of him buying a coffee in Norwich on 11th December, South East London on 20th Nov, Leicester on 8th February and so on…🤔9
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'Charlton were almost certainly the club that assumed they got spied on but had no CCTV evidence' according to a Twitter account.1
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The FA will give him a long ban so they might not have much choiceHastingsRed said:
Doubt they will sack the manager._MrDick said:I would expect Southampton to have a thorough investigation and sack all of those involved for gross misconduct. I have a small amount of sympathy for the intern as he was probably acting under instruction. But this is Southampton.. it’ll all probably be brushed under the carpet2 -
Another observation from the Saints/Boro semi .. late in the second 1/2 the ball was kicked out for a Boro throw .. a ball boy refused to hand the ball to a Boro player, when the Boroman tried to grab it, some 4 or 5 Saints subs who were 'warming up' near the incident started to jostle the Boro player, a minor melee ensued
This is a situation I've noticed more and more this season, subs used to intimidate oppo players or to pass on messages to teammates .. even managers standing close to the touchline (outside their 'areas') causing obstruction to opposition players .. 2 main perpetrators; Arteta and Guardiola .. examples of the Man Citteehh school of fair play0 -
That was Oxford and included in the case due to text messages showing the analyst being instructed to do itsirjohnhumphrey said:'Charlton were almost certainly the club that assumed they got spied on but had no CCTV evidence' according to a Twitter account.1 -
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what did he say?Rothko said:Nathan's comments after the game at St Mary's start making more sense now, properly salty3 -
"What sort of financial advisor goes out to buy an emporer burger and comes back with a cheeseburger?Fumbluff said:
Wait, wait, just so I’m clear, you’re the financial advisor and you’re telling me that 2 lots of 4 makes 12?golfaddick said:
Should be more point deductions. 2 lots of 4, making 12 in total.fenaddick said:
https://youtu.be/8HWfvh1Sgdk
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Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I don't feel sorry for the club, i said i feel sorry for the fans who've spent thousands travelling up and down the country watching their team.charltonkeston said:
Yet up until yesterday afternoon there was nothing from the Saints fans about being let down. I don't doubt they now feel very let down. I felt let down my team let 5 goals past them before halftime, I'm now feeling maybe there was more to this other than woeful defending. Probably wrong but I bet I'm not the only one and that goes for other clubs that got steam rolled along the way.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I do, they've been totally shafted by the actions of their manager and his staff.charltonkeston said:
That's exactly my take. They have admitted cheating and conveniently been allowed to plead guilty with evidence that conveniently doesn't appear to have damaged the main competition, the league. I have trouble believing they spied on two league games only. Why those two and not more or even every one they played in? So a 4 points deduction for that alone I'd say was pretty lenient. But they also admitted cheating in the play offs and were hit with expulsion from the competition, the ultimate sanction. I think they may of got off lightly here, cheating like this cannot be tolerated and for once I think EFL has got the punishment pretty spot on although I would have awarded all 3 points to the two teams they have admitted spying on but they would have obviously complicated matters somewhat.MuttleyCAFC said:I suspect they spied on more than Oxford and Ipswich. They have admitted those two as, conveniently, it doesn't affect anything directly in the table. Ipswich got promoted and were way behind Coventry and Oxford finished four points below West Brom. I suspect, they knew it would come out that it wasn't a one off and admitting to only two, they thought would be less damaging in terms of punishment and might prevent the EFL digging further. I said this before it came out that they almost certainly will have history of doing it under this manager. Whatever anybody says, including ex players, it absolutely gives them a potential advantage. Why Oxford and not some other club? If it does come out, they may face a much stiffer punishment than minus four points next season.
In terms of an appeal, it will be heard by different people appointed by the league. I would expect they will not look at everything using a blank sheet, including the punishment but instead look at the robustness of the decision against possible future legal challenge. I wouldn't give Southampton much chance of winning the appeal. We slag of the EFL enough but they have acted in the interests of the game here and I doubt this sort of cheating will happen again.
I expect the FA will now want to have a good look at this, nothing brings the game in to more disrepute than cheating. I would think they, (the FA), will charge Southampton as a club and a few employees with bringing the game into disrepute and a few other charges that I can't think of.
I don't feel sorry for the Saints fans whatsoever, they have also gained from cheating, it might not of have been their doing but my god didn't they enjoy themselves at others expense, a really good run and a huge belly laugh at Middlesbrough and many in fancy dress, tossers. Quite a few of them have mentioned the 115 elephants in the room Man City have but miss the point they are not part of that and will remain no part of that league or organisation for at least another season, not that they really took part in that league during to one prior to the one we just finished.
If you were a Southampton fan who's spent thousands of pounds watching your team home and away this season, travelling hundreds of miles for most away games, then i'm sure you'd be pretty fucked off at this. Yes they got to see a lot of wins but ultimately it's a completely wasted season and was all for nothing. It could even set them back a couple of years as some of their better players will surely be sold and they'll probably soon be looking for a new manager.
Most fans i've seen online are saying their club has totally let them down.
To be honest and I don't think I'm alone in this, I want every team to suffer other than Charlton so I really don't feel sorry for a club that has be found guilty of one of the worse things in sport, cheating.
The fans who were acting like wankers making binoculars signs like it was a big joke in the semi final? Fuck em.12 -
Football fans always act holier than thou, when you know every fan base would have fans that would have done this exact same thing.DamoNorthStand said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I don't feel sorry for the club, i said i feel sorry for the fans who've spent thousands travelling up and down the country watching their team.charltonkeston said:
Yet up until yesterday afternoon there was nothing from the Saints fans about being let down. I don't doubt they now feel very let down. I felt let down my team let 5 goals past them before halftime, I'm now feeling maybe there was more to this other than woeful defending. Probably wrong but I bet I'm not the only one and that goes for other clubs that got steam rolled along the way.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I do, they've been totally shafted by the actions of their manager and his staff.charltonkeston said:
That's exactly my take. They have admitted cheating and conveniently been allowed to plead guilty with evidence that conveniently doesn't appear to have damaged the main competition, the league. I have trouble believing they spied on two league games only. Why those two and not more or even every one they played in? So a 4 points deduction for that alone I'd say was pretty lenient. But they also admitted cheating in the play offs and were hit with expulsion from the competition, the ultimate sanction. I think they may of got off lightly here, cheating like this cannot be tolerated and for once I think EFL has got the punishment pretty spot on although I would have awarded all 3 points to the two teams they have admitted spying on but they would have obviously complicated matters somewhat.MuttleyCAFC said:I suspect they spied on more than Oxford and Ipswich. They have admitted those two as, conveniently, it doesn't affect anything directly in the table. Ipswich got promoted and were way behind Coventry and Oxford finished four points below West Brom. I suspect, they knew it would come out that it wasn't a one off and admitting to only two, they thought would be less damaging in terms of punishment and might prevent the EFL digging further. I said this before it came out that they almost certainly will have history of doing it under this manager. Whatever anybody says, including ex players, it absolutely gives them a potential advantage. Why Oxford and not some other club? If it does come out, they may face a much stiffer punishment than minus four points next season.
In terms of an appeal, it will be heard by different people appointed by the league. I would expect they will not look at everything using a blank sheet, including the punishment but instead look at the robustness of the decision against possible future legal challenge. I wouldn't give Southampton much chance of winning the appeal. We slag of the EFL enough but they have acted in the interests of the game here and I doubt this sort of cheating will happen again.
I expect the FA will now want to have a good look at this, nothing brings the game in to more disrepute than cheating. I would think they, (the FA), will charge Southampton as a club and a few employees with bringing the game into disrepute and a few other charges that I can't think of.
I don't feel sorry for the Saints fans whatsoever, they have also gained from cheating, it might not of have been their doing but my god didn't they enjoy themselves at others expense, a really good run and a huge belly laugh at Middlesbrough and many in fancy dress, tossers. Quite a few of them have mentioned the 115 elephants in the room Man City have but miss the point they are not part of that and will remain no part of that league or organisation for at least another season, not that they really took part in that league during to one prior to the one we just finished.
If you were a Southampton fan who's spent thousands of pounds watching your team home and away this season, travelling hundreds of miles for most away games, then i'm sure you'd be pretty fucked off at this. Yes they got to see a lot of wins but ultimately it's a completely wasted season and was all for nothing. It could even set them back a couple of years as some of their better players will surely be sold and they'll probably soon be looking for a new manager.
Most fans i've seen online are saying their club has totally let them down.
To be honest and I don't think I'm alone in this, I want every team to suffer other than Charlton so I really don't feel sorry for a club that has be found guilty of one of the worse things in sport, cheating.
The fans who were acting like wankers making binoculars signs like it was a big joke in the semi final? Fuck em.6 -
Really? What’s the new scheme then ?fenaddick said:
Well actually, the new SCR rules (from the season after next) can be measured in real time so you're in luck therevalleynick66 said:So let’s now please take this zero tolerance approach on to the grappling in the penalty area, diving, appealing for every throw etc etc.
I exaggerate but it might show there is an opportunity to get some norms re established.Unfortunately the FFP or whatever it now is remains harder to apply real time as is always retrospective when accounts are finalised etc0 -
But not all 37,000 fans who bought tickets were acting like that. If a few of our fans acted like numpties and you lost thousands of pounds would you say "oh no it's fine I've lost money because someone I don't know acted like a twit so I don't deserve sympathy"?DamoNorthStand said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I don't feel sorry for the club, i said i feel sorry for the fans who've spent thousands travelling up and down the country watching their team.charltonkeston said:
Yet up until yesterday afternoon there was nothing from the Saints fans about being let down. I don't doubt they now feel very let down. I felt let down my team let 5 goals past them before halftime, I'm now feeling maybe there was more to this other than woeful defending. Probably wrong but I bet I'm not the only one and that goes for other clubs that got steam rolled along the way.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I do, they've been totally shafted by the actions of their manager and his staff.charltonkeston said:
That's exactly my take. They have admitted cheating and conveniently been allowed to plead guilty with evidence that conveniently doesn't appear to have damaged the main competition, the league. I have trouble believing they spied on two league games only. Why those two and not more or even every one they played in? So a 4 points deduction for that alone I'd say was pretty lenient. But they also admitted cheating in the play offs and were hit with expulsion from the competition, the ultimate sanction. I think they may of got off lightly here, cheating like this cannot be tolerated and for once I think EFL has got the punishment pretty spot on although I would have awarded all 3 points to the two teams they have admitted spying on but they would have obviously complicated matters somewhat.MuttleyCAFC said:I suspect they spied on more than Oxford and Ipswich. They have admitted those two as, conveniently, it doesn't affect anything directly in the table. Ipswich got promoted and were way behind Coventry and Oxford finished four points below West Brom. I suspect, they knew it would come out that it wasn't a one off and admitting to only two, they thought would be less damaging in terms of punishment and might prevent the EFL digging further. I said this before it came out that they almost certainly will have history of doing it under this manager. Whatever anybody says, including ex players, it absolutely gives them a potential advantage. Why Oxford and not some other club? If it does come out, they may face a much stiffer punishment than minus four points next season.
In terms of an appeal, it will be heard by different people appointed by the league. I would expect they will not look at everything using a blank sheet, including the punishment but instead look at the robustness of the decision against possible future legal challenge. I wouldn't give Southampton much chance of winning the appeal. We slag of the EFL enough but they have acted in the interests of the game here and I doubt this sort of cheating will happen again.
I expect the FA will now want to have a good look at this, nothing brings the game in to more disrepute than cheating. I would think they, (the FA), will charge Southampton as a club and a few employees with bringing the game into disrepute and a few other charges that I can't think of.
I don't feel sorry for the Saints fans whatsoever, they have also gained from cheating, it might not of have been their doing but my god didn't they enjoy themselves at others expense, a really good run and a huge belly laugh at Middlesbrough and many in fancy dress, tossers. Quite a few of them have mentioned the 115 elephants in the room Man City have but miss the point they are not part of that and will remain no part of that league or organisation for at least another season, not that they really took part in that league during to one prior to the one we just finished.
If you were a Southampton fan who's spent thousands of pounds watching your team home and away this season, travelling hundreds of miles for most away games, then i'm sure you'd be pretty fucked off at this. Yes they got to see a lot of wins but ultimately it's a completely wasted season and was all for nothing. It could even set them back a couple of years as some of their better players will surely be sold and they'll probably soon be looking for a new manager.
Most fans i've seen online are saying their club has totally let them down.
To be honest and I don't think I'm alone in this, I want every team to suffer other than Charlton so I really don't feel sorry for a club that has be found guilty of one of the worse things in sport, cheating.
The fans who were acting like wankers making binoculars signs like it was a big joke in the semi final? Fuck em.9 -
_MrDick said:I would expect Southampton to have a thorough investigation and sack all of those involved for gross misconduct. I have a small amount of sympathy for the intern as he was probably acting under instruction. But this is Southampton.. it’ll all probably be brushed under the carpet
There is no carpet left for it to be swept under.
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You can spend 85% of your income on playing + management staff. Good article about it on Cawley's substackvalleynick66 said:
Really? What’s the new scheme then ?fenaddick said:
Well actually, the new SCR rules (from the season after next) can be measured in real time so you're in luck therevalleynick66 said:So let’s now please take this zero tolerance approach on to the grappling in the penalty area, diving, appealing for every throw etc etc.
I exaggerate but it might show there is an opportunity to get some norms re established.Unfortunately the FFP or whatever it now is remains harder to apply real time as is always retrospective when accounts are finalised etc5 -
I think I have "went to Portsmouth uni so dont look favourably on Southampton" syndrome going on a bit if I am being honest lol.fenaddick said:
But not all 37,000 fans who bought tickets were acting like that. If a few of our fans acted like numpties and you lost thousands of pounds would you say "oh no it's fine I've lost money because someone I don't know acted like a twit so I don't deserve sympathy"?DamoNorthStand said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I don't feel sorry for the club, i said i feel sorry for the fans who've spent thousands travelling up and down the country watching their team.charltonkeston said:
Yet up until yesterday afternoon there was nothing from the Saints fans about being let down. I don't doubt they now feel very let down. I felt let down my team let 5 goals past them before halftime, I'm now feeling maybe there was more to this other than woeful defending. Probably wrong but I bet I'm not the only one and that goes for other clubs that got steam rolled along the way.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I do, they've been totally shafted by the actions of their manager and his staff.charltonkeston said:
That's exactly my take. They have admitted cheating and conveniently been allowed to plead guilty with evidence that conveniently doesn't appear to have damaged the main competition, the league. I have trouble believing they spied on two league games only. Why those two and not more or even every one they played in? So a 4 points deduction for that alone I'd say was pretty lenient. But they also admitted cheating in the play offs and were hit with expulsion from the competition, the ultimate sanction. I think they may of got off lightly here, cheating like this cannot be tolerated and for once I think EFL has got the punishment pretty spot on although I would have awarded all 3 points to the two teams they have admitted spying on but they would have obviously complicated matters somewhat.MuttleyCAFC said:I suspect they spied on more than Oxford and Ipswich. They have admitted those two as, conveniently, it doesn't affect anything directly in the table. Ipswich got promoted and were way behind Coventry and Oxford finished four points below West Brom. I suspect, they knew it would come out that it wasn't a one off and admitting to only two, they thought would be less damaging in terms of punishment and might prevent the EFL digging further. I said this before it came out that they almost certainly will have history of doing it under this manager. Whatever anybody says, including ex players, it absolutely gives them a potential advantage. Why Oxford and not some other club? If it does come out, they may face a much stiffer punishment than minus four points next season.
In terms of an appeal, it will be heard by different people appointed by the league. I would expect they will not look at everything using a blank sheet, including the punishment but instead look at the robustness of the decision against possible future legal challenge. I wouldn't give Southampton much chance of winning the appeal. We slag of the EFL enough but they have acted in the interests of the game here and I doubt this sort of cheating will happen again.
I expect the FA will now want to have a good look at this, nothing brings the game in to more disrepute than cheating. I would think they, (the FA), will charge Southampton as a club and a few employees with bringing the game into disrepute and a few other charges that I can't think of.
I don't feel sorry for the Saints fans whatsoever, they have also gained from cheating, it might not of have been their doing but my god didn't they enjoy themselves at others expense, a really good run and a huge belly laugh at Middlesbrough and many in fancy dress, tossers. Quite a few of them have mentioned the 115 elephants in the room Man City have but miss the point they are not part of that and will remain no part of that league or organisation for at least another season, not that they really took part in that league during to one prior to the one we just finished.
If you were a Southampton fan who's spent thousands of pounds watching your team home and away this season, travelling hundreds of miles for most away games, then i'm sure you'd be pretty fucked off at this. Yes they got to see a lot of wins but ultimately it's a completely wasted season and was all for nothing. It could even set them back a couple of years as some of their better players will surely be sold and they'll probably soon be looking for a new manager.
Most fans i've seen online are saying their club has totally let them down.
To be honest and I don't think I'm alone in this, I want every team to suffer other than Charlton so I really don't feel sorry for a club that has be found guilty of one of the worse things in sport, cheating.
The fans who were acting like wankers making binoculars signs like it was a big joke in the semi final? Fuck em.
Maybe you're right in reality - but everybody thought it was all a big joke a few days ago - you only need to look at the tone of their forum and how it instantly changed.4 -
It can be both funny and disappointing for the vast majority of fans who are decent people who want to see their club do well. I've seen lots of arrogant Southampton fans but I've also seen lots of ashamed ones. I don't think it's fair to lump them in together.DamoNorthStand said:
I think I have "went to Portsmouth uni so dont look favourably on Southampton" syndrome going on a bit if I am being honest lol.fenaddick said:
But not all 37,000 fans who bought tickets were acting like that. If a few of our fans acted like numpties and you lost thousands of pounds would you say "oh no it's fine I've lost money because someone I don't know acted like a twit so I don't deserve sympathy"?DamoNorthStand said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I don't feel sorry for the club, i said i feel sorry for the fans who've spent thousands travelling up and down the country watching their team.charltonkeston said:
Yet up until yesterday afternoon there was nothing from the Saints fans about being let down. I don't doubt they now feel very let down. I felt let down my team let 5 goals past them before halftime, I'm now feeling maybe there was more to this other than woeful defending. Probably wrong but I bet I'm not the only one and that goes for other clubs that got steam rolled along the way.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
I do, they've been totally shafted by the actions of their manager and his staff.charltonkeston said:
That's exactly my take. They have admitted cheating and conveniently been allowed to plead guilty with evidence that conveniently doesn't appear to have damaged the main competition, the league. I have trouble believing they spied on two league games only. Why those two and not more or even every one they played in? So a 4 points deduction for that alone I'd say was pretty lenient. But they also admitted cheating in the play offs and were hit with expulsion from the competition, the ultimate sanction. I think they may of got off lightly here, cheating like this cannot be tolerated and for once I think EFL has got the punishment pretty spot on although I would have awarded all 3 points to the two teams they have admitted spying on but they would have obviously complicated matters somewhat.MuttleyCAFC said:I suspect they spied on more than Oxford and Ipswich. They have admitted those two as, conveniently, it doesn't affect anything directly in the table. Ipswich got promoted and were way behind Coventry and Oxford finished four points below West Brom. I suspect, they knew it would come out that it wasn't a one off and admitting to only two, they thought would be less damaging in terms of punishment and might prevent the EFL digging further. I said this before it came out that they almost certainly will have history of doing it under this manager. Whatever anybody says, including ex players, it absolutely gives them a potential advantage. Why Oxford and not some other club? If it does come out, they may face a much stiffer punishment than minus four points next season.
In terms of an appeal, it will be heard by different people appointed by the league. I would expect they will not look at everything using a blank sheet, including the punishment but instead look at the robustness of the decision against possible future legal challenge. I wouldn't give Southampton much chance of winning the appeal. We slag of the EFL enough but they have acted in the interests of the game here and I doubt this sort of cheating will happen again.
I expect the FA will now want to have a good look at this, nothing brings the game in to more disrepute than cheating. I would think they, (the FA), will charge Southampton as a club and a few employees with bringing the game into disrepute and a few other charges that I can't think of.
I don't feel sorry for the Saints fans whatsoever, they have also gained from cheating, it might not of have been their doing but my god didn't they enjoy themselves at others expense, a really good run and a huge belly laugh at Middlesbrough and many in fancy dress, tossers. Quite a few of them have mentioned the 115 elephants in the room Man City have but miss the point they are not part of that and will remain no part of that league or organisation for at least another season, not that they really took part in that league during to one prior to the one we just finished.
If you were a Southampton fan who's spent thousands of pounds watching your team home and away this season, travelling hundreds of miles for most away games, then i'm sure you'd be pretty fucked off at this. Yes they got to see a lot of wins but ultimately it's a completely wasted season and was all for nothing. It could even set them back a couple of years as some of their better players will surely be sold and they'll probably soon be looking for a new manager.
Most fans i've seen online are saying their club has totally let them down.
To be honest and I don't think I'm alone in this, I want every team to suffer other than Charlton so I really don't feel sorry for a club that has be found guilty of one of the worse things in sport, cheating.
The fans who were acting like wankers making binoculars signs like it was a big joke in the semi final? Fuck em.
Maybe you're right in reality - but everybody thought it was all a big joke a few days ago - you only need to look at the tone of their forum and how it instantly changed.0 -
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Assuming it’s not out there already all this case needs is the Matt Le Tissier conspiracy theory on why saints have been punished10
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Will Salt should offer his services. He's free on Saturday now, and knows his way around Middlesbrough...jimmymelrose said:3 -
HastingsRed said:
Doubt they will sack the manager._MrDick said:I would expect Southampton to have a thorough investigation and sack all of those involved for gross misconduct. I have a small amount of sympathy for the intern as he was probably acting under instruction. But this is Southampton.. it’ll all probably be brushed under the carpet
Tonda Eckert won't be the manager next season at Southampton.
Unless the owners and directors are all in on this nonsense then he will be sacked for gross misconduct and I would believe a ban from English Football and no club in England would touch him with a barge pole after a ban.
Not sure about the attitude in Germany to this spying?
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The fine is not £100,000,000, unless you thought the game against Hull was going to be fixed in favour of Southampton. At most the fine would be the lost revenue from the playoff final.stevexreeve said:
The fine is effectively 100 million quid. This is the sort of money banks pay for crashing the economy or water companies pay for killing people with their shit.Arsenetatters said:Southampton to appeal today and the suggestion by the BBC that things could potentially change again.I can’t see what they can challenge tbh
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It was your real time observation more than the metric.fenaddick said:
You can spend 85% of your income on playing + management staff. Good article about it on Cawley's substackvalleynick66 said:
Really? What’s the new scheme then ?fenaddick said:
Well actually, the new SCR rules (from the season after next) can be measured in real time so you're in luck therevalleynick66 said:So let’s now please take this zero tolerance approach on to the grappling in the penalty area, diving, appealing for every throw etc etc.
I exaggerate but it might show there is an opportunity to get some norms re established.Unfortunately the FFP or whatever it now is remains harder to apply real time as is always retrospective when accounts are finalised etcSurely it’s still after the event when all
income(and not just forecasts) accounted for etc.0 -
the account holder who said this is from 'Southampton'sirjohnhumphrey said:'Charlton were almost certainly the club that assumed they got spied on but had no CCTV evidence' according to a Twitter account.0 -
Seems mixed views from the footballing world on this. Some on 5 live for example have said they find the punishment too severe.
I personally don't think it's severe enough.
Southamptons turn around from 21st to get into the play offs and nearly automatically, which would of meant none of this would of come out. Plus their cup run.
Should be punished more and their leadership who sanctioned all this should all get football bans.7 -
Odd really. There were times we wondered if Nathan was watching training given some performances! 😉😄Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch said:Against us at The Valley their press was exemplary - they knew exactly when to step forward out of possession and what risks to take when in possession.
I'm not suggesting they cheated on that occasion, but sadly doubt now exists.
Swansea a few weeks earlier were able to pass through us with ease (without taking their chances) and for me that was our wake up call of the season. That Swansea game gives me hope that Southampton simply turned up and played a blinder - that first half was a confidence crusher.10 -
Unless I've missed it I don't think Southampton have even apologised. Especially to their fans..10
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A radical solution to this issue for the future.
Every team can send a scout to the training of their next opponent to report back what is being done, this be done through out the season, then no one can pull any surprise set pieces , or open play ones on each other.2
