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2025/26 END-OF-SEASON SQUAD UPDATE
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Ha, didn’t even occur to me that “flogging” means something else linguistically outside of London! But yes, a sponsored flogging of some of the worst offenders could have funded previous transfer windows!The Prince-e-Paul said:
Now that I'd pay to see! Maybe even Players in the Stocks. £5 a bag of rotten tomatoes? All proceeds to Upbeats, that way the players can't really say no without looking like a ****. That could even be a more popular half-time watch than the Crossbar Challenge.se9addick said:
For lots of the deadwood there’s little incentive to do the hard yards to find a new club. We need to be actively flogging them.valleynick66 said:The real list we want (but won’t ever get) is who has been told to find another club or accept not being involved.2 -
The majority of the 'retained' list makes frightening reading - really not good enough for this division if we're being candid about things.2
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charltonbob said:
Erm, you do know he plays for Scotland don't you ?se9addick said:
Because if we don’t tie him down now we won’t be able to afford him after he wins the golden boot.SporadicAddick said:
Why would you imagine that?WSS said:Can imagine with Dykes it's a "make a decision before you go to the World Cup or it's thank you and goodbye"
I don’t understand why you seem sceptical 🏴charltonbob said:
Erm, you do know he plays for Scotland don't you ?se9addick said:
Because if we don’t tie him down now we won’t be able to afford him after he wins the golden boot.SporadicAddick said:
Why would you imagine that?WSS said:Can imagine with Dykes it's a "make a decision before you go to the World Cup or it's thank you and goodbye"3 -
And none of them very desirable . The only thing disappointing is that we are trying to keep Dykes. Admittedly I don’t think our strikers are that bad - it’s the midfield and wing backs that need attention , so maybe that’s Jones’ thinking .boggzy said:The majority of the 'retained' list makes frightening reading - really not good enough for this division if we're being candid about things.3 -
I think a fair amount of the retained list, won’t be retained!!!, think the club will be taking a haircut on quite a few but that needs to happen for us to evolve, hopefully the board have the appetite for this.5
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That will be the aim but shedding a few of them will be hard . I assume we will have another year when a lot will go out on loanSword65pf said:I think a fair amount of the retained list, won’t be retained!!!, think the club will be taking a haircut on quite a few but that needs to happen for us to evolve, hopefully the board have the appetite for this.
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Berry really hit form in our play off run last season. Then he got injured away at Wycombe I think and never really got a look in since. Wish him well wherever he ends up next10
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It's an omen, I tell thee 😊JohnnyH2 said:
1998 was the last time I can remember letting only 2 go, Chapple and Tindall, and Tindall never made an appearance for the 1st teamGarrymanilow said:When was the last time we had a retained list where there were only two players who we let go? It's such an improvement from the past decade where we would just churn through an entire squad of players every season and have about 7 professionals on the books before we started making signings.2 -
Godden surely has a role to play - even it's from the bench and to cover injuries to other strikers.Croydon said:Taking sentiment out of it we should be looking for much better than both Godden and Dykes imo
The player has experience, nous and composure - and can convert the type of chances our other forwards are unaware of.
Godden scores goals.
How much would it cost to replace what he brings?
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Getting inside NJ's head, he'll be wanting to recreate the gameplay and style of the secondhalf of last season, which won us promotion.2121 said:
Will jones ever change?!CafcSteve said:Disappointed that we’re still in talks with Dykes, as don’t think that he’s someone we should be after if looking to change our style of play.
all fans of ex clubs he has managed have come to the valley and sung ‘your football is sh!t’ and, it still is!He just needs to get the quality in to make his shit football effective
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Why dykes is there is because there is a real dirth of strikers. Is Godden going to be another chuks but worse in that he’ll average 5 games per season . Desperately need two new strikers better than kelman and ahadme (yes we still have him) and two new creative midfielders better than carey who as a creative midfielder doesn’t cut it. Jones of course knows all this and will be asking for money2
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I would be surprised too, but I would not take it at face value. It is just doing a favour to a player who did his best for us. If we say we are considering re-signing him, it looks better for him as his agent tries to negotiate with another club.Southendaddick said:
An asterisk against those players we want out would be good
Surprised he wants to keep Dykes and I really hope they do a deal on Godden
If Godden is not permanently crocked, I think he is worth another year.
An asterisk is too lenient for some players. We should paint a big black spot on players like Ahadme, like in "Treasure Island".0 -
Do not underrate us posters. We are on our fourth page of discussion already.balham red said:Not much to discuss there really5 -
That is a reflection of the lazy, half-arsed way we do recruiting. The guys work their way down a list of possibilities in alphabetical order of surname. After an hour of bickering, and before they have looked at half the list, they get bored and say "F*ck this for a game of soldiers. Just add these two to make up our quota, and we can all go down the pub".Callumcafc said:I didnt realise how “first half of the Alphabet” heavy our squad was until it was listed like that!8 -
I think we can assume you are wrong.Walkingred said:Not a huge amount to be learnt from that. I think we can assume that if we find a deal for Dykes then we'll likely be listening to offers for Miles Leaburn.3 -
My names for the "bomb squad". Players who will not want to leave because they have no hope of getting equal terms elsewhere:
Burke
Knibbs
Rankin-Costello
Docherty
Ahadme
Olaofe
I would handle Docherty more gently, i.e not slash his tyres in the car park. With the others, no holds barred.
We are permitted to register 25 senior players, but unlike in Leagues One and Two, that number includes goalkeepers. Assuming we will want to register 3 of those, it does not leave any room for sentimentality or keeping mediocrities around because they can "do a job".
My fear is that it will so expensive to slim down the squad, that it will cut into our transfer budget.
I think that we were damned lucky to stay up this season just ending. If we play that badly again we will go down, and deserve to do so. We need to improve at least five positions and I am not sure we will have the funds for it.
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I think peoples' perceptions of Burke are based far to squarely on a couple of games in which he was coming back from injury. I suspect he's on similar wages to what he was on at Luton, and he was able to sign with us after all. The concern with him shouldn't be quality, it should be availability. He showed his quality in flashes, and came highly regarded. He is just never fit. I doubt he'll go anywhere as Jones knows him and trusts him and will probably feel he can get more out of him. If it doesn't work out, then I'd expect a L1 loan in Jan.wolfgang said:
My names for the "bomb squad". Players who will not want to leave because they have no hope of getting equal terms elsewhere:
Burke
Knibbs
Rankin-Costello
Docherty
Ahadme
Olaofe
I would handle Docherty more gently, i.e not slash his tyres in the car park. With the others, no holds barred.
We are permitted to register 25 senior players, but unlike in Leagues One and Two, that number includes goalkeepers. Assuming we will want to register 3 of those, it does not leave any room for sentimentality or keeping mediocrities around because they can "do a job".
My fear is that it will so expensive to slim down the squad, that it will cut into our transfer budget.
I think that we were damned lucky to stay up this season just ending. If we play that badly again we will go down, and deserve to do so. We need to improve at least five positions and I am not sure we will have the funds for it.
Knibbs didn't have a pre-season and then got a major injury. In between he scored a couple of massive goals (well, one was, the other should have been...). I know he was bad on the last day, but I wouldn't write him off just yet. Only 26 as well I believe, so should be coming into his prime.
Ahadme, yes. Tants I think we'll see go on loan to L1 again. I don't think he's entirely unaffordable, and Cawley said in Jan when we looked to loan him that a lot of League One clubs were interested, so even with his poor run with Stockport, I suspect we'll still find a way to loan him out and offload some of his wages.
JRC and Doc are interesting ones. I think JRC had something this season which we lacked, which is ability on the ball and the ability to pick a pass. He also scored a couple from midfield in very limited cameos which is pretty impressive. I know he's not the quickest, but I think he showed enough to be a squad player next season. I hope, and think, our midfield will look a lot different next season, and that might mean there's a bigger role for him to play. With better physical players in there, he could be the tidy ball playing midfielder, a role I think he'd do well at.
Doc has that dog in him, to borrow a phrase. What he doesn't have in him is that first touch. But, he has a time and a place. We need to upgrade on him, desperately, this summer. But I'm not opposed to keeping him around as a squad player who gets into passing lanes, gets stuck in, and generally helps shut things down when we're winning/are backs against the walls. That being said, if we move him on, I'll thank him for his service but won't be heartbroken about it.
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Kaminksiwolfgang said:
My names for the "bomb squad". Players who will not want to leave because they have no hope of getting equal terms elsewhere:
Burke
Knibbs
Rankin-Costello
Docherty
Ahadme
Olaofe
I would handle Docherty more gently, i.e not slash his tyres in the car park. With the others, no holds barred.
We are permitted to register 25 senior players, but unlike in Leagues One and Two, that number includes goalkeepers. Assuming we will want to register 3 of those, it does not leave any room for sentimentality or keeping mediocrities around because they can "do a job".
My fear is that it will so expensive to slim down the squad, that it will cut into our transfer budget.
I think that we were damned lucky to stay up this season just ending. If we play that badly again we will go down, and deserve to do so. We need to improve at least five positions and I am not sure we will have the funds for it.
Burke
Gillesphey
Mitchell
Dykes (free )
Docherty
Coventry
Leaburn
Ahadme
Leaburn
Dixon
loan
Asiimwe
Z Mitchell
Kanu
M’Bick
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The actual interesting things that may develop this summer related to the current roster 1) will Ramsay re sign or push for a transfer. Even though he was wildly inconsistent this year, there is some market value in a transfer for him. 2) will Kanu/Asiimwe/z Mitchell push for transfers to a league one or two club so that they can play consistently instead of being the kid who always gets loaned out (known as Chelsea loan syndrome). I would expect the club would want to keep them around/re sign them but if I were in their shoes a move might be the best thing for their careers.2
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Yeah I’d keep him. Wouldn’t see him starting many but to bring him on with 15/20 to go to nick a goal, why not?Oggy Red said:
Godden surely has a role to play - even it's from the bench and to cover injuries to other strikers.Croydon said:Taking sentiment out of it we should be looking for much better than both Godden and Dykes imo
The player has experience, nous and composure - and can convert the type of chances our other forwards are unaware of.
Godden scores goals.
How much would it cost to replace what he brings?4 -
Just a welfare check Oggy. Hopefully you are out of there now and recovering well after your ordeal.Oggy Red said:
Getting inside NJ's head, he'll be wanting to recreate the gameplay and style of the secondhalf of last season, which won us promotion.2121 said:
Will jones ever change?!CafcSteve said:Disappointed that we’re still in talks with Dykes, as don’t think that he’s someone we should be after if looking to change our style of play.
all fans of ex clubs he has managed have come to the valley and sung ‘your football is sh!t’ and, it still is!He just needs to get the quality in to make his shit football effective3 -
Of the “squad “
Gassan Ahadme, Loan
Karoo Anderson, Loan
Rob Apter Stay
Nathan Asiimwe, loan
Amari’i Bell, stay
Tiernan Brooks, stay possible loan
Reece Burke, Leaving
Sonny Carey, stay
Conor Coventry,Stay
Kaheim Dixon, loan
Greg Docherty, stay
Josh Edwards, stay
Ibrahim Fullah, loan
Macaulay Gillesphey, leaving
Keenan Gough loan
Lloyd Jones, stay
Thomas Kaminski, stay
Daniel Kanu, loan
Charlie Kelman, stay
Harvey Knibbs, stay
Miles Leaburn, loan
Will Mannion, stay
Micah Mbick, loan
Alex Mitchell, leaving
Zach Mitchell, leaving
Tanto Olaofe, loan
Kayne Ramsay, stay
Joe Rankin-Costello, stay
Collins Sichenje stay
can see 12 of these leaving one way or another
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One missing from the “stay” list Ronnie…🤔RonnieMoore said:Of the “squad “
Gassan Ahadme, Loan
Karoo Anderson, Loan
Rob Apter Stay
Nathan Asiimwe, loan
Amari’i Bell, stay
Tiernan Brooks, stay possible loan
Reece Burke, Leaving
Sonny Carey, stay
Conor Coventry,Stay
Kaheim Dixon, loan
Greg Docherty, stay
Josh Edwards, stay
Ibrahim Fullah, loan
Macaulay Gillesphey, leaving
Keenan Gough loan
Lloyd Jones, stay
Thomas Kaminski, stay
Daniel Kanu, loan
Charlie Kelman, stay
Harvey Knibbs, stay
Miles Leaburn, loan
Will Mannion, stay
Micah Mbick, loan
Alex Mitchell, leaving
Zach Mitchell, leaving
Tanto Olaofe, loan
Kayne Ramsay, stay
Joe Rankin-Costello, stay
Collins Sichenje stay
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I’d like us to sign up fevrier on a perm - looked fit and strong with a bit of something about him - also think we still need a more reliable first. Choice keeper - as for the strikers , it’s a complete mess u til he’s decided on how the midfield plays , Kelman worth sticking with but only if we change style of play - don’t see that happening under jones - I like mbick from what I’ve seen so far , give him a few starts rather than keep loaning him out ?0
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And ….. thank god harry clark and coady have returned 😂😂0
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Temporarily...Neil01 said:And ….. thank god harry clark and coady have returned 😂😂0
