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20 years ago today - Iain Dowie New Charlton Athletic Manager

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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,132
    MartinCAFC said:
    I always said Roy Hodgson at the time probably could have been lured back from working in Europe, he joined Fulham the next season I think so might even have been interested too.
    Good shout.
  • Bods64
    Bods64 Posts: 523
    “A day that will live in infamy”
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,472
    CaptainRobbo said:
    How can we best mark this momentous occasion?
    I've just had a dump.
    I opened this thread while on the shitter and wholeheartedly concur
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,139
    Bods64 said:
    “A day that will live in infamy”

  • I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY
    I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY Posts: 4,651
    Wasn’t Claudio Ranieri linked too?
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 32,015
    Murray should have accepted Curbs’ offer to serve his final year and then made a considered rather than hubristic appointment.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,410
    edited June 2
    I've met and spoken to Curbs plenty of times and he told me that if he had been offered the same size budget that Dowie was given he would have stayed the extra season. 
    It seems madness to of let curbushly go and then
    give Dowie a  large budget,  but that's what happened 🤷
  • FiveGoalSummers
    FiveGoalSummers Posts: 53
    It seems longer than 20 years ago. My son and I attended the pre season opener. I believe it was against the New Zealand national side. The result was 1-1. I was not that impressed by Dowie, but wished to give the man time to settle in. The MOM in the game was a Central American trialist, called Boanas (I apologise for not remembering the name correctly). He looked really good.

    Reports reached me later in the season after Dowie's departure that the club's transfer funds had been misused.
    We not only paid top whack for inadequate players, but also, allegedly, funds were being syphoned off to agents, one being Dowie's brother.

    Did the club try hard enough to get the NZ match's MOM? We were told a visa was not available. Also did we have an option on Steve Sidwell, that was not taken up?

    Does anyone on CL know any more about this? Aside from the fact that a number of the 'buys' that season were appalling, a lot of cash allegedly went missing. 
  • Afternoon Delight
    Afternoon Delight Posts: 1,047
    I did enjoy a couple of very enjoyable days in Valencia during his reign. Of no comfort to me now though obviously.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,132
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Watameire said:
    Our worst manager ever 
    Karen Fraeye wins by miles.

    Karel was s*** as well! B)

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  • arthur
    arthur Posts: 272
    I saw Dowie at Chelsea flower show! I let him be, chatting to a Charlton fan wouldn't have been top of his to do list for the day!
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,132
    arthur said:
    I saw Dowie at Chelsea flower show! I let him be, chatting to a Charlton fan wouldn't have been top of his to do list for the day!

    He was on the UndrTheCosh podcast, he came across very well and (from memory)did not bad mouth us at all.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,514
    FiveGoalSummers said:
    It seems longer than 20 years ago. My son and I attended the pre season opener. I believe it was against the New Zealand national side. The result was 1-1. I was not that impressed by Dowie, but wished to give the man time to settle in. The MOM in the game was a Central American trialist, called Boanas (I apologise for not remembering the name correctly). He looked really good.

    Reports reached me later in the season after Dowie's departure that the club's transfer funds had been misused.
    We not only paid top whack for inadequate players, but also, allegedly, funds were being syphoned off to agents, one being Dowie's brother.

    Did the club try hard enough to get the NZ match's MOM? We were told a visa was not available. Also did we have an option on Steve Sidwell, that was not taken up?

    Does anyone on CL know any more about this? Aside from the fact that a number of the 'buys' that season were appalling, a lot of cash allegedly went missing. 
    I think you're thinking of Christian Bolanos. He was Costa Rican. He signed a loan deal with us in August 2006 but then we couldn't get a work permit. Work permits were a lot harder to get back then and you had to have played a certain percentage of games for your country and he'd only made his international debut the year before. To be honest, I don't think he would have made all that much difference, he went on to play a bit in Denmark and Norway but he didn't set the world alight. We already had a fairly disappointing winger who played mainly in the Danish leagues at that time, I don't think we needed two. 

    I don't know about Sidwell there, I know that Curbs wanted him and Bullard but Murray thought they were too expensive. I also seem to remember that some players, and I think Sidwell was one of them, were asking if Curbishley would be there the next year when we were trying to get him and when that wasn't confirmed he saw out his contract at Reading.
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,373
    I do remember his appointment and being completely underwhelmed, was CP his only managerial experience?

    I can't remember all the ins and outs of the appointment but seems totally incredible that Murray would appoint him totally out of spite, not saying its not true?
  • rememberbillybonds
    rememberbillybonds Posts: 772
    Curbs wanted Bullard and Sidwell cost £2M each. Murray said no. Curbs left.
    Murray appointed Dowie to upset Jordon. Gave him £12M which he wasted.
    Thats the story.
  • pettgra
    pettgra Posts: 1,608
    Any truth in the story which suggested that Dowie took the team for a training run on the morning of an away game at Newcastle and couldn’t find  their way back?
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,422
    pettgra said:
    Any truth in the story which suggested that Dowie took the team for a training run on the morning of an away game at Newcastle and couldn’t find  their way back?
    Obviously navigating your way round Geordieland takes a bit more than rocket science!! 😉
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 30,399
    edited June 3
    TelMc32 said:
    pettgra said:
    Any truth in the story which suggested that Dowie took the team for a training run on the morning of an away game at Newcastle and couldn’t find  their way back?
    Obviously navigating your way round Geordieland takes a bit more than rocket science!! 😉
    Didn’t help with the fog on the Tyne.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,686
    pettgra said:
    Any truth in the story which suggested that Dowie took the team for a training run on the morning of an away game at Newcastle and couldn’t find  their way back?
    I believe that is a true story & from memory I think I recall that the players had to dash across a motorway or dual carriageway to get back to the hotel.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,860
    jimmymelrose said:
    Let’s be honest : Karel Fraeye must be our worst manager ever. However, Dowie was the worst appointment.  Murray got us into a position of strength then let his eyes get clouded by the red mist, the stupid fool.
    *Curbs and Varney 

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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,860
    edited June 4
    .charltonbob said:
    pettgra said:
    Any truth in the story which suggested that Dowie took the team for a training run on the morning of an away game at Newcastle and couldn’t find  their way back?
    I believe that is a true story & from memory I think I recall that the players had to dash across a motorway or dual carriageway to get back to the hotel.
    Didn’t Dowie also stay up in Wigan to see a very close friend..?
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,300
    The Red Robin said:
    .charltonbob said:
    pettgra said:
    Any truth in the story which suggested that Dowie took the team for a training run on the morning of an away game at Newcastle and couldn’t find  their way back?
    I believe that is a true story & from memory I think I recall that the players had to dash across a motorway or dual carriageway to get back to the hotel.
    Didn’t Dowie also stay up in Wigan to see a very close friend..?
    Also had the team bus drop him off at home several times, iirc.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,686
    The Red Robin said:
    .charltonbob said:
    pettgra said:
    Any truth in the story which suggested that Dowie took the team for a training run on the morning of an away game at Newcastle and couldn’t find  their way back?
    I believe that is a true story & from memory I think I recall that the players had to dash across a motorway or dual carriageway to get back to the hotel.
    Didn’t Dowie also stay up in Wigan to see a very close friend..?
    That rings a bell but can't recall the actual story. One I do remember from up north, he got somebody else to take a team meeting as he was decorating at his mums house.  :D
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,676
    It was 20 years ago today
    Iain Dowie taught us how to play
    we poached him from the Palarse
    But they couldn't hit a cows arse
    So may I introduce to you the fact you've known for all these years
    Iain Dowies a shit manager

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