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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Derby County: Saturday 15th August 2026: KO 15:00

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 87,051
    EFL show mentioned we were favourites for the drop. Haven’t looked at the bookies odds but that seemed harsh to me 
    Tonight on Talksport when Magestic mentioned Spurs were playing us in the cup Pardew said ‘they’re a good side’. He then dissed The Red, Red Robin by saying when at Charlton he said ‘what is this?’ and said no one would be intimidated by it. Prick.
    He tried to get in dropped
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,486
    edited August 18
    No chance would Dykes be making the run Leaburn did yesterday in the lead up to our second goal.
    Leaburn isn’t quick, in that he doesn’t have that sudden burst of speed, but he is fast once he gets going. Plays those ball into a channel he can run onto, and I think he’ll give their central defenders a torrid time. That’s why we need midfielders who can make a pass.

    This is a good point about Leaburn and one I had noticed for some time. He is slow off the mark but once into his stride has a good speed. 
    Even the great tall Usain Bolt (6ft 5in)was slower off the blocks than his rivals but by 60 meters had already caught and then went well clear in the business part of the race.
    Amy Hunt who is a tall sprinter for a women was the same in the recent European championship.
    Last to 1st was her modus operandi in both the 100 and 200 Metres.

    I had never given up on Miles but this season was the one he needed to show his skills. Not sure he will score many goals as he is a tad slow in the box to react but the best of Leaburn is still to come and he can be a great foil for the team.

    Not sure he will score 10 as he will be used off the bench as well as starts  but personally I'm pleased we didn't sign Dykes as that would limit Miles game time even more.

  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,967
    Miles has decent pace, what he doesnt have is acceleration (which given his size and build is quite expected.) Once he gets going he's actually fairly rapid and as shown on Saturday takes a lot of stopping.
    What is better this season is that we have the tools to try different things if we need to - if we need guile and sharp shooting instincts, we have Godden and Kelman, if we need speed and tricks we have Alli and Campbell, if we need to be more physical we have Leaburn, and there is also Grant who with his experience can do a bit of everything. 

    Hopefully this makes us less predictable and easy to shut down. Last season if you could outpress our press or mark Campbell and/or the striker then our limited creativity became no creativity and it was hoofball only. I'm optimistic that won't be the case this time.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,587
    edited August 18
    I think he has the attributes to make a massive step up. His recentish injury set him back IMO as it was a serious one. I think he can score a decent amount of goals. In fact had not Jones scored on Saturday, Leaburn was right behind him ready to head it in.  Maybe a question mark for Derby's defending is highlighted there. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,486
    edited August 18
    I think he has the attributes to make a massive step up. His recentish injury set him back IMO as it was a serious one. I think he can score a decent amount of goals. In fact had not Jones scored on Saturday, Leaburn was right behind him ready to head it in.  Maybe a question mark for Derby's defending is highlighted there. 

    I believe Miles has had 5 injuries which have kept him out for long periods of the last 4 years since making his debut against Accrington Stanley on 31/07/22.

    After Miles breakthrough season in 22/23 season when he scored 12 in 35 apps his career then was disrupted with 3 in 13 apps in 23/24.
    6 in 27 for 24/25 and all these so far were in the 3rd tier.
    2 Goals in 38 apps and his critics' were numerous in our return to the Championship in 25/26

    Now he's looking sharp, can he stay fit in 26/27 and contribute to CAFC heading into the calm seas of mid table far away from choppy waves of bottom 3 ?
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 16,825
    Derby fans magnanimous in defeat : 

    "I predicted we would be crap first ten games of the season we've lost to a team who come the end of the season will be in a relegation battle. Crap Manager. Crap club. Crap players. After 55 years of supporting this pathetic club I give up. We will be never get anywhere without a better manager and invest in better player which is never going to happen because were skint."

    “we’re”. Derby supporters, eh?
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 16,825
    Never heard of this site, I’m guessing it’s like Twitter but you don’t have to be a right-wing nut job to use it.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 16,825
    Dave Rudd said:
    Redrobo said:
    LoOkOuT said:

    A new season kicked off this afternoon in warm, summery conditions at The Valley with Derby County the visitors looking to test the new look Addicks and Nathan Jones’ 4-2-3-1 formation.

    The home side started brightly. We looked a level up in terms of being comfortable and purposeful in possession. Just over eleven minutes had elapsed on the clock when the first shot on target tested either keeper. It was Karlan Grant from the edge of the box on the left but it was ultimately a tame effort straight at the Derby keeper. The Addicks managed to maintain the pressure, poking and probing, until about sixteen minutes when Derby swung the momentum their way.

    On 22 minutes Derby found a way through. Lloyd Jones was dragged out of position and, after a one-two on the edge of the box, Szmodics managed to leave Koumetio behind to receive the ball in front of goal and slot easily past Will Mannion. A goal down, Charlton’s confidence then dropped.

    After half an hour had elapsed Nathan Jones swapped his wingers, with Campbell moving over to the left and Grant to the right. This paid dividends again, as it did last week at Cheltenham, having an immediate impact. Campbell came alive on the ball and the momentum swung back in Charlton’s favour; he looked dangerous driving into the box on multiple occasions. It was on 37 minutes when one such drive resulted in Derby scrambling in the box only to clear the ball as far as Danny McNamara, whose half volley was sweetly struck but ultimately blocked. Charlton finished the half strong, with Campbell forcing a save and Derby retreating deep under pressure. Derby were able to see the half out with the one goal lead but I thought Charlton acquitted themselves well and were unlucky to be behind. Charlton looked a decent Championship side on first look but even the smallest mistakes are more-than-likely punished at this level and the Addicks bore the brunt of that lesson in the first forty-five.

    Charlton started the second half as they finished the first. A few dangerous foray’s forward put Derby under pressure but it was Tyreece Campbell’s attempt to win the ball in the box that resulted in a penalty shout. It didn’t look cast iron on first viewing but on replay it’s not obvious that the defender got anything on the ball and it could have gone the home side’s way.

    On 59 minutes Sonny Carey was replaced by Millenic Alli and Matty Godden made way for Miles Leaburn. Poetic justice struck right after the subs came on when Karlan Grant swung a ball in from the edge of the box to find Lloyd Jones leaping like a salmon to head it past the hapless Derby keeper. Drawing the home side level after his poor positioning for Derby’s goal was sweet redemption for the Addicks’ new captain.

    On 73 minutes Joe Rankin-Costello came on for Karlan Grant. The Addicks continued the pressure, mostly through Campbell, but it was Derby that, on tested the goal next when a counter attack led to a snapshot that Mannion did well to push wide. After dispatching the resultant corner the Addicks broke forward on the counter themselves but tired legs, on both sides, lead to a drop in quality and nothing to break the deadlock for either side.

    Well, until a period of Derby possession left them vulnerable on the counter when Conor Coventry found himself with the ball at his feet at the edge of his own box. He picked a forward pass to Joe Rankin-Costello who pushed it on to Miles Leaburn, who being one with fresh legs, collected it in his own half, splitting the Derby defence, and pushing ahead on the break. He marshaled the retreating defenders well until his blocked shot fell to Tyreece Campbell. When the chance looked to have been snuffed, Campbell unleashed a left-footed shot from a tight angle that gave the keeper no chance. Charlton were ahead on just over 80 minutes, with Tyreece Campbell’s valiant efforts rewarded with the potential winning goal. Sign the deal!!!

    A raft of changes were made by Nathan Jones with an eye on replenishing tired legs and shifting to five at the back to see things out. Derby brought on former-Addick Corey Blackett-Taylor and the referee signaled eight minutes of added time, both of which combined to fray Charlton nerves further. On just under 95 minutes Will Mannion made a decent diving save. Charlton had retreated to defending deep and relinquishing possession as the minutes slipped away. And it worked! The home side saw out the victory against a dangerous, if uninspiring, Derby County.

    I thought the performance was excellent, particularly given the task of integrating the new players and the new formation on the first day of the new season, when fitness isn’t as sharp as it will be. Better performances were what the Charlton faithful have been after and today signals a turn towards better football. Yet, as always, it’s the result that is sweetest!

    The Championship journey continues this season in SE7 and it looks to be a potentially exciting one!

    Charlton 2 Derby 1
    Over to you.

    Very good report that I read out aloud to my son in a restaurant.
    I would just suggest not adding apostrophes to plural nouns please.
    If you are that good at English teach him to read.

    Ah, pedantry.  Or is it pedantism?

    I'm much more interested in where jimmymelrose was when he read out the report to his son in a restaurant.

    We know that the son was in a restaurant ... and you'd hope that jimmymelrose was in the same restaurant, but that's not clear.  Imagine if jimmymelrose was standing in a nearby carpark, for example.

    "Can you hear me, son?  No, no.  Ignore the waiter.  I have important match detail from LoOkOut."


    I’m hoping he was in the same restaurant but reading it in semaphore from the other side of the room.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 9,131
    No chance would Dykes be making the run Leaburn did yesterday in the lead up to our second goal.
    Leaburn isn’t quick, in that he doesn’t have that sudden burst of speed, but he is fast once he gets going. Plays those ball into a channel he can run onto, and I think he’ll give their central defenders a torrid time. That’s why we need midfielders who can make a pass.

    This is a good point about Leaburn and one I had noticed for some time. He is slow off the mark but once into his stride has a good speed. 
    Even the great tall Usain Bolt (6ft 5in)was slower off the blocks than his rivals but by 60 meters had already caught and then went well clear in the business part of the race.
    Amy Hunt who is a tall sprinter for a women was the same in the recent European championship.
    Last to 1st was her modus operandi in both the 100 and 200 Metres.

    I had never given up on Miles but this season was the one he needed to show his skills. Not sure he will score many goals as he is a tad slow in the box to react but the best of Leaburn is still to come and he can be a great foil for the team.

    Not sure he will score 10 as he will be used off the bench as well as starts  but personally I'm pleased we didn't sign Dykes as that would limit Miles game time even more.

    If Miles Leaburn can do what he did on Saturday, over 90 minutes, week in week out, he'll be our first choice striker. Problem is, can he do angry / raging bull mode more than every now and then. Hope so. 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 28,829
    edited August 18
    Never heard of this site, I’m guessing it’s like Twitter but you don’t have to be a right-wing nut job to use it.
    It just lets you see what’s on X/Twitter without having to be part of that cesspool. F*ck knows why anyone still uses that site.

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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,789
    DOUCHER said:
    No chance would Dykes be making the run Leaburn did yesterday in the lead up to our second goal.
    Leaburn isn’t quick, in that he doesn’t have that sudden burst of speed, but he is fast once he gets going. Plays those ball into a channel he can run onto, and I think he’ll give their central defenders a torrid time. That’s why we need midfielders who can make a pass.

    This is a good point about Leaburn and one I had noticed for some time. He is slow off the mark but once into his stride has a good speed. 
    Even the great tall Usain Bolt (6ft 5in)was slower off the blocks than his rivals but by 60 meters had already caught and then went well clear in the business part of the race.
    Amy Hunt who is a tall sprinter for a women was the same in the recent European championship.
    Last to 1st was her modus operandi in both the 100 and 200 Metres.

    I had never given up on Miles but this season was the one he needed to show his skills. Not sure he will score many goals as he is a tad slow in the box to react but the best of Leaburn is still to come and he can be a great foil for the team.

    Not sure he will score 10 as he will be used off the bench as well as starts  but personally I'm pleased we didn't sign Dykes as that would limit Miles game time even more.

    If Miles Leaburn can do what he did on Saturday, over 90 minutes, week in week out, he'll be our first choice striker. Problem is, can he do angry / raging bull mode more than every now and then. Hope so. 
    Really enjoyed watching him trample Sanderson (who kept Godden very quiet and looked decent) into the ground. Little bit of a chat between them after and I think Sanderson knew he was in a different game. Lovely to see.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,587
    He has allowed himself to be bullied by some defenders. Maybe it is beacuse of his height but I feel he gets infailrly penalised by refs quite often and opponents foul him and get away with it a bit. He has to find a way. You can't expect refs to be good as last season showed.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 16,825
    I'm surprised and a little bit disappointed at the lack of recognition of my part in the victory. As I said pre-match, I was unable to make the game and expected a Charlton victory as we invariably win at home when I can't make it.  So, well done crookester but no, I'm not staying away for the rest of the season ;-)
    It’s all Self, Self, Self by you, isn’t it.