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Okonkwo confirmed - season long loan

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  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,812
    If the situation were reversed and Kaminski were going somewhere on a season long loan, I doubt if our fans would react in the way the Wrexham fans are reacting to Okonkwo’s departure.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 15,015
    BalladMan said:
    I have heard that Mannion is injured (shoulder) so not sure we have any choice but to play Okonkwo. We will see tomorrow. 
    Oof, that’s a completely different scenario, then. Done this deal just in time.
    Does make you wonder doesn’t it. If we hadn’t been able to get this deal done has the relationship between Kaminski and the staff broken down so much that we would have put Brooks in and a youth keeper on the bench against West Ham or would we have seen it as too much of a risk and gone with Kaminski?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,078
    Being cup tied isn’t really a thing anymore, A Mitchell played for both us and Plymouth in the league cup last year from memory
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,359
    fenaddick said:
    Being cup tied isn’t really a thing anymore, A Mitchell played for both us and Plymouth in the league cup last year from memory

    Marc Guehi played in the humiliating 3rd round defeat at non league Macclesfield in the FA cup yet played in the Final at Wembley for Man City.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,516
    edited August 21
    A massive signing. 
    A permanent deal would have been even better, but at least we can see how he gets on for a year before offering the big bucks. 
    ;-)
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,653
    Good. I wasn’t really bothered about Kammy leaving before this, now I really don’t care. See you later.
  • arthur
    arthur Posts: 277
    arthur said:
    This means I've previously heard of 3 signings we have made in 1 transfer window. Pretty good numbers compared to the most recent decade!  I guess its a good thing.  I hope he does well!
    Reading the Wrexham fans site, quite a few say he doesn't command his area, occasionally flaps at corners and his passing isn't the best.

    However he makes match winning saves, is young and will improve. He also has the perfect physique for a keeper. Welcome King Arthur!
    In my opinion commanding an area is far less important that an uderstanding between the rest of the back 4. If your back 4 knows you aren't coming out for many crosses and they have to deal with it, that is much better than them wondering if the keeper is going to come crashing through them. Our centre backs main strengths are heading crosses and they don't need much help from a keeper.

    If your keeper is a 6ft 6in giant like Arthur O then surely he should come for crosses and dominate the box like the tall Nick Pope does !
    if he is really good at it then fine. But if he's a bit of a mixed bag coming from crosses, will he, wont he, will he get it or will he miss it? I'd rather he just stayed on his line and tried to save any of the few headers we give away in the box. 

    Being tall helps but they aren't all robots, being tall doesn't mean you will automatically dominate your box, it's way more about decision making and understanding with your teamates.  I'd guess most crosses occur when there are 10 players in the box, hopefully more that half of them are there to defend our goal as a team. We have a lot of tall defenders who are good at heading the ball and a tall striker who can help at set pieces. 

    Imagine if Kiely came into training saying that the fans are moaning he "wasn't commanding his area". He want's to work at it.  Curbs and the defenders would have just told him not to bother, stay on his line and ignore what the fans are saying.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,629
    At 6'6" maybe he should move in with Miles.
    He will already have higher than usual ceilings and door frames 
  • Really pleased with this and for me an important factor is that Arthur seems like he wants to be here never really felt that TK did.
  • Delighted with this signing 

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  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,613
    This a wait and hope it is good idea signing, if was top notch Wrexham would not be loaning him out. 
  • SteveACS
    SteveACS Posts: 723
    arthur said:
    arthur said:
    This means I've previously heard of 3 signings we have made in 1 transfer window. Pretty good numbers compared to the most recent decade!  I guess its a good thing.  I hope he does well!
    Reading the Wrexham fans site, quite a few say he doesn't command his area, occasionally flaps at corners and his passing isn't the best.

    However he makes match winning saves, is young and will improve. He also has the perfect physique for a keeper. Welcome King Arthur!
    In my opinion commanding an area is far less important that an uderstanding between the rest of the back 4. If your back 4 knows you aren't coming out for many crosses and they have to deal with it, that is much better than them wondering if the keeper is going to come crashing through them. Our centre backs main strengths are heading crosses and they don't need much help from a keeper.

    If your keeper is a 6ft 6in giant like Arthur O then surely he should come for crosses and dominate the box like the tall Nick Pope does !
    if he is really good at it then fine. But if he's a bit of a mixed bag coming from crosses, will he, wont he, will he get it or will he miss it? I'd rather he just stayed on his line and tried to save any of the few headers we give away in the box. 

    Being tall helps but they aren't all robots, being tall doesn't mean you will automatically dominate your box, it's way more about decision making and understanding with your teamates.  I'd guess most crosses occur when there are 10 players in the box, hopefully more that half of them are there to defend our goal as a team. We have a lot of tall defenders who are good at heading the ball and a tall striker who can help at set pieces. 

    Imagine if Kiely came into training saying that the fans are moaning he "wasn't commanding his area". He want's to work at it.  Curbs and the defenders would have just told him not to bother, stay on his line and ignore what the fans are saying.
    I've always thought it was more about bravery, and confidence.

    One of the best at it in recent years was Ben Amos. He wasn't massive, but was brave enough to go in where the heads, elbows, and boots were flying. Even if he dropped it, he would always fall on the ball, no matter how many opponents were around him.

    Mannion is a classic example of losing his confidence. When you think how he played in the play off final, and how he played against Cheltenham, you can see how much that mistake he made against Wednesday has affected him.
  • LTKapal
    LTKapal Posts: 1,389
    Good video of his first training session on Instagram! Seems a good showing although a bit distracting that there’s a man with binoculars walking his dog in the background
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 51,691
    All goalkeepers have errors in them. Even the great Deano wasn’t great at distribution and his kicking was at times woeful
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,078
    BalladMan said:
    I have heard that Mannion is injured (shoulder) so not sure we have any choice but to play Okonkwo. We will see tomorrow. 
    Club has put out a video of Okonkwo's first session yesterday. Only other keeper you see in it is Brooks
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,793
    msomerton said:
    This a wait and hope it is good idea signing, if was top notch Wrexham would not be loaning him out. 
    They’re loaning him out because they’ve just spent 8M on a keeper, if they were sending him away after bringing in a keeper for 1M I’d be much more concerned 
  • Kingfish
    Kingfish Posts: 8
    I remember our tallest keeper was a South African called Utenbogart. He was 6ft 7. I saw him score in a reserve match.  Kicked the ball from hand, opposition keeper just tipped it with a finger and it went in!  He never made a first team appearance. Went back to SA.
    Welcome, Arthur.
  • MrWalker
    MrWalker Posts: 4,371
    edited August 21
    Great bit of business.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,916
    All goalkeepers have errors in them. Even the great Deano wasn’t great at distribution and his kicking was at times woeful

    Forgot how to save the ball against Swindon too. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 45,278
    Kingfish said:
    I remember our tallest keeper was a South African called Utenbogart. He was 6ft 7. I saw him score in a reserve match.  Kicked the ball from hand, opposition keeper just tipped it with a finger and it went in!  He never made a first team appearance. Went back to SA.
    Welcome, Arthur.
    My dad used to call him UmptyGoKart  😊

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  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,740
    arthur said:
    This means I've previously heard of 3 signings we have made in 1 transfer window. Pretty good numbers compared to the most recent decade!  I guess its a good thing.  I hope he does well!
    Reading the Wrexham fans site, quite a few say he doesn't command his area, occasionally flaps at corners and his passing isn't the best.

    However he makes match winning saves, is young and will improve. He also has the perfect physique for a keeper. Welcome King Arthur!
    In my opinion commanding an area is far less important that an understanding between the rest of the back 4. If your back 4 knows you aren't coming out for many crosses and they have to deal with it, that is much better than them wondering if the keeper is going to come crashing through them. Our centre backs main strengths are heading crosses and they don't need much help from a keeper.
    arthur said:
    This means I've previously heard of 3 signings we have made in 1 transfer window. Pretty good numbers compared to the most recent decade!  I guess its a good thing.  I hope he does well!
    Reading the Wrexham fans site, quite a few say he doesn't command his area, occasionally flaps at corners and his passing isn't the best.

    However he makes match winning saves, is young and will improve. He also has the perfect physique for a keeper. Welcome King Arthur!
    In my opinion commanding an area is far less important that an uderstanding between the rest of the back 4. If your back 4 knows you aren't coming out for many crosses and they have to deal with it, that is much better than them wondering if the keeper is going to come crashing through them. Our centre backs main strengths are heading crosses and they don't need much help from a keeper.

    If your keeper is a 6ft 6in giant like Arthur O then surely he should come for crosses and dominate the box like the tall Nick Pope does !
    I hope he does start to come for crosses and command his box. Think keepers who don't are a liability no matter how good the defence. 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 9,069
    wonder if he was the 'big unit' i saw last week with a pratley lookalike? 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 87,012
    Kingfish said:
    I remember our tallest keeper was a South African called Utenbogart. He was 6ft 7. I saw him score in a reserve match.  Kicked the ball from hand, opposition keeper just tipped it with a finger and it went in!  He never made a first team appearance. Went back to SA.
    Welcome, Arthur.
    @Kingfish Albert made six first team appearances
  • Like him Keep him. Looks a cut above.
  • Watameire
    Watameire Posts: 162
    If he’s the same quality as Flapinski but with half the wages it’s an improvement 
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,889
    All goalkeepers have errors in them. Even the great Deano wasn’t great at distribution and his kicking was at times woeful

    Forgot how to save the ball against Swindon too. 
    Oh gosh yes that was a throwing ball in net mistake ending our umbeaten run 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,913
    Welcome back to London Arthur and enjoy your time at the Valley. We need you as the missing link in our defence
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,614
    DOUCHER said:
    wonder if he was the 'big unit' i saw last week with a pratley lookalike? 
    He had dreadlocks didn’t he? So might well have been. 
    I’m now thinking I should have paid more attention to the part of the refs’ briefing on hair pulling. 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 13,340
    edited August 21
    DOUCHER said:
    wonder if he was the 'big unit' i saw last week with a pratley lookalike? 
    Dunno. Take a look at a pic of Arthur Okonkwo. If he looks like the big unit you saw last week with a Pratley lookalike, it was probably him ;)
  • SteveACS
    SteveACS Posts: 723
    DOUCHER said:
    wonder if he was the 'big unit' i saw last week with a pratley lookalike? 
    Pratley lookalike = Curtis Fleming