THREAD FOR DISCUSSING AWAY FOLLOWINGS (of all clubs)
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ElfsborgAddick said:
I take your point, but surely Man City is more appealing than Bristol City.clb74 said:
Yes mate i do.Covered End said:
So you don't find some fixtures more attractive than others ?clb74 said:
Killer i go to watch us.killerandflash said:
Blackburn, Barnsley and Wigan are all teams we've played in L1. Reading is a dull ground with nothing around it. No real rivalry with any of them, no great spice or aggro.clb74 said:
Attractive fixtures killer?killerandflash said:To be fair Barnsley away isn't a very attractive away fixture, dull team and town and we played them last season
Indeed our opening away games do lack excitement, Blackburn, Barnsley, Reading, Wigan aren't exactly the games were were looking forward to. In October we have Fulham, Bristol City and WBA, all far more attractive games
Lets face it 80 % of us arrive plot up in a pub till 2.30 and then go to the ground.
I did try and get though a fellow poster on here to do the Oxford sightseeing tour when our fixture kicked off earlier last season but the answer was a flat no.
Fair enough if your going down to somewhere like bristol for a few nights and are going to go into somewhere like Bath.
Their probably amongst the dullest away fixtures we'll play this season!
If im up there for the day it doesnt matter how nice the city / town is, im finding one or two pubs and then the game.
It was on the trip at Accrington last season going fron yorkshire to Lancashire that i decided i was going to do a few weekends when going away.
Shrewsbury went to chester on the sunday.
Barnsley went to the peak district for a couple of nights and chesterfield after the game.
You find Accrington away as attractive as Man U away ?
As i said in an earlier post i go to watch us, who we play is of no relevance to me.
Only because ive never done man city
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Accrington got a good away crowd last season as a new ground for most. Indeed it would be the same for youMillwallFan said:
Depends on your own personal experience I suppose. If say we’d spent a good few years in the prem (take this hypothetically lol) like you lot did, and I’d been to Man U a good few times, and we drew Accrington away in the league, and it was a toss up between the two, I’d much rather go to Accrington.ElfsborgAddick said:
I take your point, but surely Man City is more appealing than Bristol City.clb74 said:
Yes mate i do.Covered End said:
So you don't find some fixtures more attractive than others ?clb74 said:
Killer i go to watch us.killerandflash said:
Blackburn, Barnsley and Wigan are all teams we've played in L1. Reading is a dull ground with nothing around it. No real rivalry with any of them, no great spice or aggro.clb74 said:
Attractive fixtures killer?killerandflash said:To be fair Barnsley away isn't a very attractive away fixture, dull team and town and we played them last season
Indeed our opening away games do lack excitement, Blackburn, Barnsley, Reading, Wigan aren't exactly the games were were looking forward to. In October we have Fulham, Bristol City and WBA, all far more attractive games
Lets face it 80 % of us arrive plot up in a pub till 2.30 and then go to the ground.
I did try and get though a fellow poster on here to do the Oxford sightseeing tour when our fixture kicked off earlier last season but the answer was a flat no.
Fair enough if your going down to somewhere like bristol for a few nights and are going to go into somewhere like Bath.
Their probably amongst the dullest away fixtures we'll play this season!
If im up there for the day it doesnt matter how nice the city / town is, im finding one or two pubs and then the game.
It was on the trip at Accrington last season going fron yorkshire to Lancashire that i decided i was going to do a few weekends when going away.
Shrewsbury went to chester on the sunday.
Barnsley went to the peak district for a couple of nights and chesterfield after the game.
You find Accrington away as attractive as Man U away ?
As i said in an earlier post i go to watch us, who we play is of no relevance to me.
By contrast there's no novelty about playing Championship strugglers/Upper L1 teams like Rotherham, Wigan or Barnsley as they're at the same level as Charlton and Millwall really.0 -
Currently, I think of the 92 clubs, I've only not been to Forest Green, Lincoln, Macclesfield, Morecambe and Newport.clb74 said:
Yes mate i do.Covered End said:
So you don't find some fixtures more attractive than others ?clb74 said:
Killer i go to watch us.killerandflash said:
Blackburn, Barnsley and Wigan are all teams we've played in L1. Reading is a dull ground with nothing around it. No real rivalry with any of them, no great spice or aggro.clb74 said:
Attractive fixtures killer?killerandflash said:To be fair Barnsley away isn't a very attractive away fixture, dull team and town and we played them last season
Indeed our opening away games do lack excitement, Blackburn, Barnsley, Reading, Wigan aren't exactly the games were were looking forward to. In October we have Fulham, Bristol City and WBA, all far more attractive games
Lets face it 80 % of us arrive plot up in a pub till 2.30 and then go to the ground.
I did try and get though a fellow poster on here to do the Oxford sightseeing tour when our fixture kicked off earlier last season but the answer was a flat no.
Fair enough if your going down to somewhere like bristol for a few nights and are going to go into somewhere like Bath.
Their probably amongst the dullest away fixtures we'll play this season!
If im up there for the day it doesnt matter how nice the city / town is, im finding one or two pubs and then the game.
It was on the trip at Accrington last season going fron yorkshire to Lancashire that i decided i was going to do a few weekends when going away.
Shrewsbury went to chester on the sunday.
Barnsley went to the peak district for a couple of nights and chesterfield after the game.
You find Accrington away as attractive as Man U away ?
As i said in an earlier post i go to watch us, who we play is of no relevance to me.
So I too go to watch us play, whoever we play and generally have a good time regardless.
But I do have fonder memories of Man U, Newcastle & Liverpool, than Halifax, AFC Wimbledon & Dagenham & Redbridge.2 -
The population of Barnsley is 90,000, being generous and including ‘greater Barnsley’ it is a quarter of a million. When they travel to London (population nearly nine million) they are going to the largest city in Europe with international culture, theatre, arts, clubs, music venues, shopping, etc – stuff other than the hour and a half of football.
When we travel to Barnsley we go to somewhere less than 3% the size of London, with none of the other bonuses of London. It is the equivalent of Barnsley travelling 250 miles to visit a village with a population of 7,000, eg: Tenterden.
If the population of Barnsley was nine million and had the infrastructure to match they would probably have more away fans wanting to visit there. I’m not picking on Barnsley the argument could be applied to: Gillingham, Chesterfield, Stockport, Salford, Wigan, Chester, Crawley, Barnsley, Oldham, Stevenage, Hartlepool, Grimsby, Chelmsford, Burnley, Rochdale, Maidstone, Halifax, Lincoln, Darlington, Preston, Southport, Doncaster and so on. That’s why people who are ‘doing the 92’ will only visit some grounds once.
It’s easier to say to a group of mates, your dad, kids, wife/girlfriend – ‘do you fancy a weekend away in the biggest city in Europe?’ than it is to say “What are you up to on the 14th March? – well it’s your lucky day I’m off to watch Charlton play Hull, you and the kids can come too and wander around the Prospect Shopping Centre for three hours”.
Imagine there was a city three hours away on the train with a population of nine million, with history, 7000 pubs, scores of nightclubs, award winning restaurants, loads going on. There’s a chance you’re not going to turn up, have four pints in the Railway tavern, jump in a cab to the ground, straight back to the station via an off-licence and on the 17:30 back home again.
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A ideal away day.
1 Good company
2 Decent ground
3 Charlton win
4 Decent boozers
5 Get p*****
6 Pleasant town/city visiting
I can see the points of both @clb74 and @Covered End
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Seeing as your number crunching what percentage of away fans come to London for the night /weekend.milo said:The population of Barnsley is 90,000, being generous and including ‘greater Barnsley’ it is a quarter of a million. When they travel to London (population nearly nine million) they are going to the largest city in Europe with international culture, theatre, arts, clubs, music venues, shopping, etc – stuff other than the hour and a half of football.
When we travel to Barnsley we go to somewhere less than 3% the size of London, with none of the other bonuses of London. It is the equivalent of Barnsley travelling 250 miles to visit
And how many bring the family or friends with them.2 -
clb74 said:
Seeing as your number crunching what percentage of away fans come to London for the night /weekend.milo said:The population of Barnsley is 90,000, being generous and including ‘greater Barnsley’ it is a quarter of a million. When they travel to London (population nearly nine million) they are going to the largest city in Europe with international culture, theatre, arts, clubs, music venues, shopping, etc – stuff other than the hour and a half of football.
When we travel to Barnsley we go to somewhere less than 3% the size of London, with none of the other bonuses of London. It is the equivalent of Barnsley travelling 250 miles to visit
And how many bring the family or friends with them.A very good point but it’s difficult to say because I can’t type that into google like I can ‘population of Barnsley’ or ‘how many pubs are there in London’ so this is all anecdotal but bear with me.
50% of the population of London are not from London, now admittedly a percentage of these may be from abroad and have no particular allegiance to a team, for example, I think 10% of Londoners are Polish (or at least used to be). But a very large chunk of people living in London come from other parts of England and support the team they grew up with. Of my non-London team supporting friends that live in London, they support Liverpool x 2, Birmingham, Middlesbrough x3, Plymouth, Southampton, WBA, Everton, Sheffield, Brighton, Southend and Bradford. They often get invaded by friends and family when their team are in town (well maybe not so much the lad from Southend).
In all my time of watching Charlton away I’ve had weekenders away staying with friends when we’ve played Walsall and Wolves (brother at university in the black country) and Middlesbrough when I was seeing a girl who lived near there (incidentally, the match got called off Saturday morning due to a frozen pitch) – so two games in thirty odd years.
I’ve had more people want to stay with me to watch their team in a year than I have had the opportunity to stay with friends elsewhere in my entire life. I’ve even suggested going to watch Charlton play at the Riverside to my Middlesbrough supporting friends and they can’t be bothered. One of them has seen Middlesbrough play more times at the Valley than Ayresome Park and the Riverside stadium combined.
The only other times I’ve stayed away for the weekend watching Charlton have been seaside towns, Brighton, Plymouth, Bournemouth and Blackpool and also Manchester once (which has a bit more going for it as a place to visit). It’s difficult to persuade a group of friends/family to travel to a pit town in Lancashire just for a football game, unless they are fairly obsessed with football.
As I’ve said, this is just based on my experience, but I think its fair to say that London is a bigger draw as a place to visit than anywhere else in the UK and that London has more ‘away fans’ living there than anywhere else in the UK and that has to influence attendances. The only other place I think that may have a similar blip are places like Blackpool (although god only knows why).
So I can’t tell you how many people stay the night in London or how many friends they bring with them – I haven’t got a clue, but I think it will be higher than for most other towns. Why do you need an exact number?
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1,700+ from Forest was pretty impressive....Live on TV & mid-week.0
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Proper club with proper support. Much more enjoyable having the JS filled than having Accrington stick 300 odd in thereHastingsaddick said:1,700+ from Forest was pretty impressive....Live on TV & mid-week.2 -
1000 of them live in London...............Hastingsaddick said:1,700+ from Forest was pretty impressive....Live on TV & mid-week.2 - Sponsored links:
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Midweek away followings
1,276 Barnsley @ Brum
773 Bristol City @ Derby
383 Blackburn @ Hull
790 Luton @ Sheff Wed
1,302 Stoke @ Preston
1,751 Forest @ The Valley
406 Brentford @ Leeds
503 Huddersfield @ Cardiff
1,085 Swansea @ QPR
893 Reading @ WBA
950 Coventry @ Pompey
493 Tranmere @ Bristol Rovers
1,350 Lincoln @ MK Dons
2,351 Sunderland @ Rochdale
667 Wombles @ Ipswich
600 Bradford @ Stevenage0 -
Usual toilet following by Blackburn.oohaahmortimer said:Midweek away followings
1,276 Barnsley @ Brum
773 Bristol City @ Derby
383 Blackburn @ Hull
790 Luton @ Sheff Wed
1,302 Stoke @ Preston
1,751 Forest @ The Valley
406 Brentford @ Leeds
503 Huddersfield @ Cardiff
1,085 Swansea @ QPR
893 Reading @ WBA
950 Coventry @ Pompey
493 Tranmere @ Bristol Rovers
1,350 Lincoln @ MK Dons
2,351 Sunderland @ Rochdale
667 Wombles @ Ipswich
600 Bradford @ Stevenage0 -
Game was live on SKY Tuesday night.ElfsborgAddick said:
Usual toilet following by Blackburn.oohaahmortimer said:Midweek away followings
1,276 Barnsley @ Brum
773 Bristol City @ Derby
383 Blackburn @ Hull
790 Luton @ Sheff Wed
1,302 Stoke @ Preston
1,751 Forest @ The Valley
406 Brentford @ Leeds
503 Huddersfield @ Cardiff
1,085 Swansea @ QPR
893 Reading @ WBA
950 Coventry @ Pompey
493 Tranmere @ Bristol Rovers
1,350 Lincoln @ MK Dons
2,351 Sunderland @ Rochdale
667 Wombles @ Ipswich
600 Bradford @ Stevenage0 -
Apologies if missed it, how many away at Fulham ?0
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1970. Sold out allocation. All went to ST holders in a few hours. Probably could’ve sold double that, such was demand.sunbury-addick said:Apologies if missed it, how many away at Fulham ?0 -
Unusual fantastic following by Blackburn.clive said:
Game was live on SKY Tuesday night.ElfsborgAddick said:
Usual toilet following by Blackburn.oohaahmortimer said:Midweek away followings
1,276 Barnsley @ Brum
773 Bristol City @ Derby
383 Blackburn @ Hull
790 Luton @ Sheff Wed
1,302 Stoke @ Preston
1,751 Forest @ The Valley
406 Brentford @ Leeds
503 Huddersfield @ Cardiff
1,085 Swansea @ QPR
893 Reading @ WBA
950 Coventry @ Pompey
493 Tranmere @ Bristol Rovers
1,350 Lincoln @ MK Dons
2,351 Sunderland @ Rochdale
667 Wombles @ Ipswich
600 Bradford @ Stevenage1 -
1970 - that is all they give ? very poor - was looking forward to that - won't get a ticketMillwallFan said:
1970. Sold out allocation. All went to ST holders in a few hours. Probably could’ve sold double that, such was demand.sunbury-addick said:Apologies if missed it, how many away at Fulham ?0 -
Very odd. Doesn't that stand hold about 6k and have a 'neutrals' section?sunbury-addick said:
1970 - that is all they give ? very poor - was looking forward to that - won't get a ticketMillwallFan said:
1970. Sold out allocation. All went to ST holders in a few hours. Probably could’ve sold double that, such was demand.sunbury-addick said:Apologies if missed it, how many away at Fulham ?0 -
Well we took 7,000 ? for that FAC3 game.0
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They have building works going on.Uboat said:
Very odd. Doesn't that stand hold about 6k and have a 'neutrals' section?sunbury-addick said:
1970 - that is all they give ? very poor - was looking forward to that - won't get a ticketMillwallFan said:
1970. Sold out allocation. All went to ST holders in a few hours. Probably could’ve sold double that, such was demand.sunbury-addick said:Apologies if missed it, how many away at Fulham ?
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Reduced capacity of 20k?Baldybonce said:9
They have building works going on.Uboat said:
Very odd. Doesn't that stand hold about 6k and have a 'neutrals' section?sunbury-addick said:
1970 - that is all they give ? very poor - was looking forward to that - won't get a ticketMillwallFan said:
1970. Sold out allocation. All went to ST holders in a few hours. Probably could’ve sold double that, such was demand.sunbury-addick said:Apologies if missed it, how many away at Fulham ?0 -
19,000ElfsborgAddick said:
Reduced capacity of 20k?Baldybonce said:9
They have building works going on.Uboat said:
Very odd. Doesn't that stand hold about 6k and have a 'neutrals' section?sunbury-addick said:
1970 - that is all they give ? very poor - was looking forward to that - won't get a ticketMillwallFan said:
1970. Sold out allocation. All went to ST holders in a few hours. Probably could’ve sold double that, such was demand.sunbury-addick said:Apologies if missed it, how many away at Fulham ?0 -
2,943 Luton @ QPR
3,136 Brum @ The Valley
1,788 Bristol City @ Stoke
4,394 Leeds @ Barnsley
639 Tranmere @ Oxford
2,600 Bolton @ Rotherham
621 Donny @ Ipswich
419 Bristol Rovers @ Lincoln
2,159 Sunderland @ Accrington
1,671 Coventry @ Burton
83 Fleetwood @ Southend
735 Plymouth @ Port Vale
783 Grimsby @ Oldham
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Given their circumstances Bolton are taking incredible numbers away this season.oohaahmortimer said:2,943 Luton @ QPR
3,136 Brum @ The Valley
1,788 Bristol City @ Stoke
4,394 Leeds @ Barnsley
639 Tranmere @ Oxford
2,600 Bolton @ Rotherham
621 Donny @ Ipswich
419 Bristol Rovers @ Lincoln
2,159 Sunderland @ Accrington
1,671 Coventry @ Burton
83 Fleetwood @ Southend
735 Plymouth @ Port Vale
783 Grimsby @ Oldham1 -
3,179 Leeds @ The Valley
791 Scum @ Huddersfield
3,137 Brum @ Derby
2,857 Sheff Wed @ Boro
366 Brentford @ Barnsley (Sunday afternoon on telly)
583 Wigan @ Fulham (Friday night)
2,783 Forest @ Stoke ( Friday night live on telly)
970 Cardiff @ Hull
1,296 Lincoln @ Blackpool (Friday night)
824 Bolton @ Pompey
811 Doncaster @ Coventry
621 Tranmere @ Ipswich
455 MK Dons @ Sunderland
613 Port Vale @ Orient
1,577 Bradford @ Scunthorpe
516 Oldham @ Carlisle
550 Plymouth @ Mansfield
440 Crewe @ Cheltenham
1,033 Cambridge @ Stevenage
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Forest were playing Stoke not wba1
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1296 Lincoln at Blackpool on a Friday night is very impressive. Or should that be IMPressive
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Decent numbers from Wigan too considering their fan base.2
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Bolton's was very giod considering the distance and basically relegated already.ChiAddick said:Decent numbers from Wigan too considering their fan base.1 -
Midweek numbers
992 Hudders @ Stoke
2,204 Wednesday @ Hull
442 PNE @ Middlesbrough
981 WBA @ Leeds
2,127 Derby @ Barnsley
1,222 Swans @ The Valley
1,032 Scum @ Luton
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