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    Did anyone see them on Andrew Marr's show today?

    Brilliant re-writing of the last verse of 'Cradle to the Grave' to have a great dig at the guest who just happened to be David Cameron - the subject of Glenn's ire on quite a few tracks from the last decade.

    Instead of
    They say time will wait for no man
    They say time is on my side
    I could never make my mind up
    As it all goes whizzing by

    Glenn sang
    I grew up on a council estate
    (missed this line)
    there's someone here now
    Whos responsible for the destruction
    of the welfare state

    Chris is the lyricist.
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    Great stuff.
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    Benefit gig for the protest funds coming soon I hope.
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    Still, Dave clapped at the end, so he must have enjoyed it...
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    I saw this earlier and only stopped cringing about 10 minutes ago
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    It was probably the only time the intended recipient was even aware of a protest song
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    Oh those cwazy millionaire socialists!
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    seth plum said:

    The housing initiative Cameron trumpeted today is basically contemptible. he wants to spread £140million across all the 'sink' estates in Britain (yeah Dave that'll go far), to tear them down, chuck out those living there, and build a mix of housing, some 'affordable'.
    He was virtually salivating when he described how much well positioned council property is worth now, and the goodies that will bring in to him and his mates.
    The Tory housing policy is churn for mates in surveying, insurance, banking, mortgage advising, landlording, and other financial spaces that are predominately Tory voting.
    I ask Cameron this. How does an 18 year old, chucked out of care in Lewisham, who had a modest education at Sedgehill school, and managed to get a minimum wage job in the Co-Op in Downham. How does that person become a home owner then? How does that person even rent somewhere in the community in which they grew up?
    Missed opportunity by Squeeze, they did not live up to their name and squeeze that evil man's testicles until he wept.

    S/He get's a job in surveying, insurance, banking, mortgage advising, landlording, and other financial spaces, if your logic is correct
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    seth plum said:

    The housing initiative Cameron trumpeted today is basically contemptible. he wants to spread £140million across all the 'sink' estates in Britain (yeah Dave that'll go far), to tear them down, chuck out those living there, and build a mix of housing, some 'affordable'.
    He was virtually salivating when he described how much well positioned council property is worth now, and the goodies that will bring in to him and his mates.
    The Tory housing policy is churn for mates in surveying, insurance, banking, mortgage advising, landlording, and other financial spaces that are predominately Tory voting.
    I ask Cameron this. How does an 18 year old, chucked out of care in Lewisham, who had a modest education at Sedgehill school, and managed to get a minimum wage job in the Co-Op in Downham. How does that person become a home owner then? How does that person even rent somewhere in the community in which they grew up?
    Missed opportunity by Squeeze, they did not live up to their name and squeeze that evil man's testicles until he wept.

    S/He get's a job in surveying, insurance, banking, mortgage advising, landlording, and other financial spaces, if your logic is correct
    However if the youngster can only get a job in the Co-Op then the Tories might assume that the youngster is merely a pleb, and can sleep on a park bench between shifts.
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    Riviera said:

    Did anyone see them on Andrew Marr's show today?

    Brilliant re-writing of the last verse of 'Cradle to the Grave' to have a great dig at the guest who just happened to be David Cameron - the subject of Glenn's ire on quite a few tracks from the last decade.

    Instead of
    They say time will wait for no man
    They say time is on my side
    I could never make my mind up
    As it all goes whizzing by

    Glenn sang
    I grew up on a council estate
    (missed this line)
    there's someone here now
    Whos responsible for the destruction
    of the welfare state

    Chris is the lyricist.
    Yes, but the last few GT albums have been more political.

    I'll wager a pint that they only knew of DC's attendance on the show this morning, so the lines will have been penned just before the live take.

    And I'll wager another pint that GT wrote the amendment.

    All over the radio tonight, even radio 4!
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    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    The housing initiative Cameron trumpeted today is basically contemptible. he wants to spread £140million across all the 'sink' estates in Britain (yeah Dave that'll go far), to tear them down, chuck out those living there, and build a mix of housing, some 'affordable'.
    He was virtually salivating when he described how much well positioned council property is worth now, and the goodies that will bring in to him and his mates.
    The Tory housing policy is churn for mates in surveying, insurance, banking, mortgage advising, landlording, and other financial spaces that are predominately Tory voting.
    I ask Cameron this. How does an 18 year old, chucked out of care in Lewisham, who had a modest education at Sedgehill school, and managed to get a minimum wage job in the Co-Op in Downham. How does that person become a home owner then? How does that person even rent somewhere in the community in which they grew up?
    Missed opportunity by Squeeze, they did not live up to their name and squeeze that evil man's testicles until he wept.

    S/He get's a job in surveying, insurance, banking, mortgage advising, landlording, and other financial spaces, if your logic is correct
    However if the youngster can only get a job in the Co-Op then the Tories might assume that the youngster is merely a pleb, and can sleep on a park bench between shifts.
    Most people can 'only' get a job in the Coop, unless they want to do better for em selves or are happy to work there and get by.
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    Brilliant stuff. Well done Squeeze.
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    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    The housing initiative Cameron trumpeted today is basically contemptible. he wants to spread £140million across all the 'sink' estates in Britain (yeah Dave that'll go far), to tear them down, chuck out those living there, and build a mix of housing, some 'affordable'.
    He was virtually salivating when he described how much well positioned council property is worth now, and the goodies that will bring in to him and his mates.
    The Tory housing policy is churn for mates in surveying, insurance, banking, mortgage advising, landlording, and other financial spaces that are predominately Tory voting.
    I ask Cameron this. How does an 18 year old, chucked out of care in Lewisham, who had a modest education at Sedgehill school, and managed to get a minimum wage job in the Co-Op in Downham. How does that person become a home owner then? How does that person even rent somewhere in the community in which they grew up?
    Missed opportunity by Squeeze, they did not live up to their name and squeeze that evil man's testicles until he wept.

    S/He get's a job in surveying, insurance, banking, mortgage advising, landlording, and other financial spaces, if your logic is correct
    However if the youngster can only get a job in the Co-Op then the Tories might assume that the youngster is merely a pleb, and can sleep on a park bench between shifts.
    Most people can 'only' get a job in the Coop, unless they want to do better for em selves or are happy to work there and get by.
    I have described a youngster who was in care, and had a modest education, not 'most people'. Working there in the circumstances I describe, and having a home, is not possible even if they simply want to get by.
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    'Glenn sang
    I grew up on a council estate
    (missed this line)
    there's someone here now
    Whos responsible for the destruction
    of the welfare state'

    'Grew up on a council estate'...so what? I live on a council estate but my children don't want to live on the welfare state thanks. It should be for the disabled etc.
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    seth plum said:

    The housing initiative Cameron trumpeted today is basically contemptible. he wants to spread £140million across all the 'sink' estates in Britain (yeah Dave that'll go far), to tear them down, chuck out those living there, and build a mix of housing, some 'affordable'.
    He was virtually salivating when he described how much well positioned council property is worth now, and the goodies that will bring in to him and his mates.
    The Tory housing policy is churn for mates in surveying, insurance, banking, mortgage advising, landlording, and other financial spaces that are predominately Tory voting.
    I ask Cameron this. How does an 18 year old, chucked out of care in Lewisham, who had a modest education at Sedgehill school, and managed to get a minimum wage job in the Co-Op in Downham. How does that person become a home owner then? How does that person even rent somewhere in the community in which they grew up?
    Missed opportunity by Squeeze, they did not live up to their name and squeeze that evil man's testicles until he wept.

    And Labour did what about the housing crisis? A mass house building program should have been started long before now. To blame it on one party is a joke.
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    edited January 2016
    I am talking about Cameron's stuff today. As for Labours past behaviour on housing, well it was the Tories who sold off the council houses wasn't it?
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    Shrew said:

    It all sounded a bit rough on the Marr show though

    According to their roadie - and 2 others I've spoken to - bands have no chance of setting up the sound themselves as it is all sewn up by clueless closed shop BBC workers.
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    seth plum said:

    I am talking about Cameron's stuff today. As for Labours past behaviour on housing, well it was the Tories who sold off the council houses wasn't it?

    Is council housing a good thing? I much prefer genuinely affordable housing. Council estates always seem to end up with antisocial people spoiling life for everyone else.
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    4th most read on BBC news website today!

    Post-punk band Squeeze used a performance on the BBC's Andrew Marr Show to protest against fellow guest David Cameron.
    They changed the lyrics of hit Cradle to the Grave to sing the line: "There are some here who are hell bent on the destruction of the welfare state."
    Mr Cameron had been interviewed on the show and was watching the band's closing performance.
    The band later tweeted about its "third verse message" for the PM.
    Squeeze, formed in South London in 1974, reached the peak of their popularity in the late 1970s and early 1980s with songs including "Cool for Cats", "Up the Junction" and "Tempted".
    In the adapted version, front man Glenn Tilbrook also added the line: "I grew up in council houses, part of what made Britain great".
    A BBC spokeswoman said producers had not been aware of Squeeze's protest beforehand.
    Downing Street said it was not commenting on the performance.
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    Godstone said:

    seth plum said:

    I am talking about Cameron's stuff today. As for Labours past behaviour on housing, well it was the Tories who sold off the council houses wasn't it?

    Is council housing a good thing? I much prefer genuinely affordable housing. Council estates always seem to end up with antisocial people spoiling life for everyone else.
    How are you supposed to buy a house in Lewisham, or a flat for that matter on the minimum wage, and where do you live in the meantime if you're supposed to be saving up?

    The London minimum wage is set at £9.15 per hour.





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    seth plum said:

    Godstone said:

    seth plum said:

    I am talking about Cameron's stuff today. As for Labours past behaviour on housing, well it was the Tories who sold off the council houses wasn't it?

    Is council housing a good thing? I much prefer genuinely affordable housing. Council estates always seem to end up with antisocial people spoiling life for everyone else.
    How are you supposed to buy a house in Lewisham, or a flat for that matter on the minimum wage, and where do you live in the meantime if you're supposed to be saving up?

    The London minimum wage is set at £9.15 per hour.
    You move further out and commute in like I did
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    seth plum said:

    Godstone said:

    seth plum said:

    I am talking about Cameron's stuff today. As for Labours past behaviour on housing, well it was the Tories who sold off the council houses wasn't it?

    Is council housing a good thing? I much prefer genuinely affordable housing. Council estates always seem to end up with antisocial people spoiling life for everyone else.
    How are you supposed to buy a house in Lewisham, or a flat for that matter on the minimum wage, and where do you live in the meantime if you're supposed to be saving up?

    The London minimum wage is set at £9.15 per hour.
    You move further out and commute in like I did
    And presumably walk to work in Downham from Thurrock because the fares would be crippling.
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    seth plum said:

    seth plum said:

    Godstone said:

    seth plum said:

    I am talking about Cameron's stuff today. As for Labours past behaviour on housing, well it was the Tories who sold off the council houses wasn't it?

    Is council housing a good thing? I much prefer genuinely affordable housing. Council estates always seem to end up with antisocial people spoiling life for everyone else.
    How are you supposed to buy a house in Lewisham, or a flat for that matter on the minimum wage, and where do you live in the meantime if you're supposed to be saving up?

    The London minimum wage is set at £9.15 per hour.
    You move further out and commute in like I did
    And presumably walk to work in Downham from Thurrock because the fares would be crippling.
    They'd need to swim at some point if they wanted to get from Thurrock to Downham by shanksy's pony. But why move to Thurrock if you're working in a low paid job in Downham? Rent a room locally or summing

    I moved out to Gravesend and got the 5:45 train every morning so I could buy the earlybird ticket and save meself a few quid and also to be on site for 7:30, but these are things one needs to do to move forward in life I spose, no?
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    seth plum said:

    Godstone said:

    seth plum said:

    I am talking about Cameron's stuff today. As for Labours past behaviour on housing, well it was the Tories who sold off the council houses wasn't it?

    Is council housing a good thing? I much prefer genuinely affordable housing. Council estates always seem to end up with antisocial people spoiling life for everyone else.
    How are you supposed to buy a house in Lewisham, or a flat for that matter on the minimum wage, and where do you live in the meantime if you're supposed to be saving up?

    The London minimum wage is set at £9.15 per hour.





    That's why I said 'genuinely affordable'. Had we started building houses 20 years ago under both Labour and Conservative governments we wouldn't be in this mess.
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    A flat to rent would come in at about £800 per calendar month if you're lucky.
    That's a lot if you're on £9.15 per hour. Not even taking into account utilities and council tax.
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