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Make that 2 Fifa World Cup Golden Ballspaulie8290 said:The GOAT debate is over
Messi winning the World Cup confirms GOAT status, never want to hear anyone say Ronaldo is better again
First player to score in every knockout game of a World Cup as well
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The first man to do so.paulie8290 said:
Make that 2 Fifa World Cup Golden Ballspaulie8290 said:The GOAT debate is over
Messi winning the World Cup confirms GOAT status, never want to hear anyone say Ronaldo is better again
First player to score in every knockout game of a World Cup as well1 -
The first one was the worst decision everCallumcafc said:
The first man to do so.paulie8290 said:
Make that 2 Fifa World Cup Golden Ballspaulie8290 said:The GOAT debate is over
Messi winning the World Cup confirms GOAT status, never want to hear anyone say Ronaldo is better again
First player to score in every knockout game of a World Cup as well5 -
Two different players for me, but Ronaldo for me is the more complete player.
Very apt that Messi wins the final in such style.2 -
shh, narratives remember?MrOneLung said:
The first one was the worst decision everCallumcafc said:
The first man to do so.paulie8290 said:
Make that 2 Fifa World Cup Golden Ballspaulie8290 said:The GOAT debate is over
Messi winning the World Cup confirms GOAT status, never want to hear anyone say Ronaldo is better again
First player to score in every knockout game of a World Cup as well2 -
Zidane over anyone2
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Best over anyone - but betting without Best it would be:PeleMaradonaRonaldo (Nazario)then the argument between CR7 and Messi.Best in the world right now is Mbappe.2
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Maradona of all time
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Rich coming from someone who tried to legitimately push a narrative that tonight’s game was fixed after about 30 minutes.SELR_addicks said:
shh, narratives remember?MrOneLung said:
The first one was the worst decision everCallumcafc said:
The first man to do so.paulie8290 said:
Make that 2 Fifa World Cup Golden Ballspaulie8290 said:The GOAT debate is over
Messi winning the World Cup confirms GOAT status, never want to hear anyone say Ronaldo is better again
First player to score in every knockout game of a World Cup as well2 -
You might need to look at your comments if you want to talk narratives.SELR_addicks said:
shh, narratives remember?MrOneLung said:
The first one was the worst decision everCallumcafc said:
The first man to do so.paulie8290 said:
Make that 2 Fifa World Cup Golden Ballspaulie8290 said:The GOAT debate is over
Messi winning the World Cup confirms GOAT status, never want to hear anyone say Ronaldo is better again
First player to score in every knockout game of a World Cup as well
Seriously click on your profile, click comments and look at the last 5 hours comments
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Its worse than some of the stuff I see from the immature twats on twitter that say Ratio or Penaldo or Pessi every other tweet3 - Sponsored links:
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Alright mr ready with his little Messi trophy parade message waiting for the final penalty to go inpaulie8290 said:
You might need to look at your comments if you want to talk narratives.SELR_addicks said:
shh, narratives remember?MrOneLung said:
The first one was the worst decision everCallumcafc said:
The first man to do so.paulie8290 said:
Make that 2 Fifa World Cup Golden Ballspaulie8290 said:The GOAT debate is over
Messi winning the World Cup confirms GOAT status, never want to hear anyone say Ronaldo is better again
First player to score in every knockout game of a World Cup as well
Seriously click on your profile, click comments and look at the last 5 hours comments
🤣🤣
Its worse than some of the stuff I see from the immature twats on twitter that say Ratio or Penaldo or Pessi every other tweet
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Ouch anyone got any burn cream think I need it after this deep burn 🤦♂️🤦♂️SELR_addicks said:
Alright mr ready with his little Messi trophy parade message waiting for the final penalty to go inpaulie8290 said:
You might need to look at your comments if you want to talk narratives.SELR_addicks said:
shh, narratives remember?MrOneLung said:
The first one was the worst decision everCallumcafc said:
The first man to do so.paulie8290 said:
Make that 2 Fifa World Cup Golden Ballspaulie8290 said:The GOAT debate is over
Messi winning the World Cup confirms GOAT status, never want to hear anyone say Ronaldo is better again
First player to score in every knockout game of a World Cup as well
Seriously click on your profile, click comments and look at the last 5 hours comments
🤣🤣
Its worse than some of the stuff I see from the immature twats on twitter that say Ratio or Penaldo or Pessi every other tweet1 -
cafctom said:
Rich coming from someone who tried to legitimately push a narrative that tonight’s game was fixed after about 30 minutes.SELR_addicks said:
shh, narratives remember?MrOneLung said:
The first one was the worst decision everCallumcafc said:
The first man to do so.paulie8290 said:
Make that 2 Fifa World Cup Golden Ballspaulie8290 said:The GOAT debate is over
Messi winning the World Cup confirms GOAT status, never want to hear anyone say Ronaldo is better again
First player to score in every knockout game of a World Cup as well
France national team had a huge virus outbreak in their camp in the last week. The fact Argentina couldn't beat them in 120 minutes is pretty funny, they did their best to give it away in the end.2 -
Admit you don’t like football or hearing of anybody else trying to enjoy it - would save a lot of time.SELR_addicks said:cafctom said:
Rich coming from someone who tried to legitimately push a narrative that tonight’s game was fixed after about 30 minutes.SELR_addicks said:
shh, narratives remember?MrOneLung said:
The first one was the worst decision everCallumcafc said:
The first man to do so.paulie8290 said:
Make that 2 Fifa World Cup Golden Ballspaulie8290 said:The GOAT debate is over
Messi winning the World Cup confirms GOAT status, never want to hear anyone say Ronaldo is better again
First player to score in every knockout game of a World Cup as well
France national team had a huge virus outbreak in their camp in the last week. The fact Argentina couldn't beat them in 120 minutes is pretty funny, they did their best to give it away in the end.4 -
Can only beat what's in front of you.SELR_addicks said:cafctom said:
Rich coming from someone who tried to legitimately push a narrative that tonight’s game was fixed after about 30 minutes.SELR_addicks said:
shh, narratives remember?MrOneLung said:
The first one was the worst decision everCallumcafc said:
The first man to do so.paulie8290 said:
Make that 2 Fifa World Cup Golden Ballspaulie8290 said:The GOAT debate is over
Messi winning the World Cup confirms GOAT status, never want to hear anyone say Ronaldo is better again
First player to score in every knockout game of a World Cup as well
France national team had a huge virus outbreak in their camp in the last week. The fact Argentina couldn't beat them in 120 minutes is pretty funny, they did their best to give it away in the end.
I very much doubt Argentina will give a sh*t, while they get pissed and pass the World Cup around for photos etc2 -
True but the hope is that you have the best nations playing at their peak.North Lower Neil said:
Can only beat what's in front of you.SELR_addicks said:cafctom said:
Rich coming from someone who tried to legitimately push a narrative that tonight’s game was fixed after about 30 minutes.SELR_addicks said:
shh, narratives remember?MrOneLung said:
The first one was the worst decision everCallumcafc said:
The first man to do so.paulie8290 said:
Make that 2 Fifa World Cup Golden Ballspaulie8290 said:The GOAT debate is over
Messi winning the World Cup confirms GOAT status, never want to hear anyone say Ronaldo is better again
First player to score in every knockout game of a World Cup as well
France national team had a huge virus outbreak in their camp in the last week. The fact Argentina couldn't beat them in 120 minutes is pretty funny, they did their best to give it away in the end.
I very much doubt Argentina will give a sh*t, while they get pissed and pass the World Cup around for photos etc
A winter World Cup meaning that multiple top stars miss out through injury, and the final played under a cloud of an illness isn't my idea of the peak of football.
Some people like Messi so don't care either way. Good for them.0 -
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Why would there more injuries now than for a summer World Cup ? A lot of teams would have had various bugs going around during the tournament. That’s what happens when you are staying in close proximity to each otherSELR_addicks said:
True but the hope is that you have the best nations playing at their peak.North Lower Neil said:
Can only beat what's in front of you.SELR_addicks said:cafctom said:
Rich coming from someone who tried to legitimately push a narrative that tonight’s game was fixed after about 30 minutes.SELR_addicks said:
shh, narratives remember?MrOneLung said:
The first one was the worst decision everCallumcafc said:
The first man to do so.paulie8290 said:
Make that 2 Fifa World Cup Golden Ballspaulie8290 said:The GOAT debate is over
Messi winning the World Cup confirms GOAT status, never want to hear anyone say Ronaldo is better again
First player to score in every knockout game of a World Cup as well
France national team had a huge virus outbreak in their camp in the last week. The fact Argentina couldn't beat them in 120 minutes is pretty funny, they did their best to give it away in the end.
I very much doubt Argentina will give a sh*t, while they get pissed and pass the World Cup around for photos etc
A winter World Cup meaning that multiple top stars miss out through injury, and the final played under a cloud of an illness isn't my idea of the peak of football.
Some people like Messi so don't care either way. Good for them.0 -
Can't help but laugh people think Pele, Maradona and Ronaldo Nazario would have competed against the athletes of today.
Sure they'd be world class, but better than Messi and Ronaldo?
They'd be alongside Neymar, Benzema & Henry etc4 -
Midway through a season rather than afterwards with a month before the tournament to recover and join National camps?MrOneLung said:
Why would there more injuries now than for a summer World Cup ? A lot of teams would have had various bugs going around during the tournament. That’s what happens when you are staying in close proximity to each otherSELR_addicks said:
True but the hope is that you have the best nations playing at their peak.North Lower Neil said:
Can only beat what's in front of you.SELR_addicks said:cafctom said:
Rich coming from someone who tried to legitimately push a narrative that tonight’s game was fixed after about 30 minutes.SELR_addicks said:
shh, narratives remember?MrOneLung said:
The first one was the worst decision everCallumcafc said:
The first man to do so.paulie8290 said:
Make that 2 Fifa World Cup Golden Ballspaulie8290 said:The GOAT debate is over
Messi winning the World Cup confirms GOAT status, never want to hear anyone say Ronaldo is better again
First player to score in every knockout game of a World Cup as well
France national team had a huge virus outbreak in their camp in the last week. The fact Argentina couldn't beat them in 120 minutes is pretty funny, they did their best to give it away in the end.
I very much doubt Argentina will give a sh*t, while they get pissed and pass the World Cup around for photos etc
A winter World Cup meaning that multiple top stars miss out through injury, and the final played under a cloud of an illness isn't my idea of the peak of football.
Some people like Messi so don't care either way. Good for them.
First game in 2018 - 14th June (last game 13th May in the Premier League)
First game in 2022 - 20th November (last game 13th November in the Premier League)
Do you not see the difference?
Look at the French squad only with no Benzema, Pogba, Kante, Hernandez, Kimpembe, Nkunku and others.0 - Sponsored links:
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Surely Madonna would be alongside Britney and the Spice Girls?Dazzler21 said:Can't help but laugh people think Pele, Madonna and Ronaldo Nazario would have competed against the athletes of today.
Sure they'd be world class, but better than Messi and Ronaldo?
They'd be alongside Neymar, Benzema & Henry etc8 -
Dunno, she is very muscular, maybe a good centre back?Dazzler21 said:Can't help but laugh people think Pele, Madonna and Ronaldo Nazario would have competed against the athletes of today.
Sure they'd be world class, but better than Messi and Ronaldo?
They'd be alongside Neymar, Benzema & Henry etc3 -
Bloody auto correct.1
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Personally, I think that Kevin de Bruyner is the greatest player in the world at the moment.
Best player in the world accolades are 99% of the time given out to strikers/prolific goal scorers and rarely to anyone else.
True, De Bruyner had an inexplicably dreadful and anonymous World Cup…..having said that, Belgium were surprisingly very very poor, in fact a side whom many had expected a much better showing from.
Just my view of course and I can understand many of you disagreeing with my opinion…..unfortunately he doesn’t fit the ethos of a worlds greatest player.2 -
It’s now, objectively, completely undoubted that it’s Messi. People claiming that it’s Maradona even though they really only saw about ten hours of him actually playing or, even weirder, Pele who could have gone four years without Europeans seeing him play. Messi’s every kick in his career was broadcast worldwide. We saw all of it - we saw how it started, we saw the almost unbelievable things that happened at Barcelona, we saw the highs and the lows for Argentina until that Copa America win. Then we all saw him orchestrate a World Cup win, almost unimaginable.You can pretend that any of you saw those things for Pele or Maradona, but I’m very, very confident it’s not true.
Messi is, now, the greatest of all time.9 -
Absolutely.se9addick said:It’s now, objectively, completely undoubted that it’s Messi. People claiming that it’s Maradona even though they really only saw about ten hours of him actually playing or, even weirder, Pele who could have gone four years without Europeans seeing him play. Messi’s every kick in his career was broadcast worldwide. We saw all of it - we saw how it started, we saw the almost unbelievable things that happened at Barcelona, we saw the highs and the lows for Argentina until that Copa America win. Then we all saw him orchestrate a World Cup win, almost unimaginable.You can pretend that any of you saw those things for Pele or Maradona, but I’m very, very confident it’s not true.
Messi is, now, the greatest of all time.2 -
Couldn’t have put it better.se9addick said:It’s now, objectively, completely undoubted that it’s Messi. People claiming that it’s Maradona even though they really only saw about ten hours of him actually playing or, even weirder, Pele who could have gone four years without Europeans seeing him play. Messi’s every kick in his career was broadcast worldwide. We saw all of it - we saw how it started, we saw the almost unbelievable things that happened at Barcelona, we saw the highs and the lows for Argentina until that Copa America win. Then we all saw him orchestrate a World Cup win, almost unimaginable.You can pretend that any of you saw those things for Pele or Maradona, but I’m very, very confident it’s not true.
Messi is, now, the greatest of all time.
A lot of accounts of Maradona and Pele is based 95% on the opinions and takes of others and retrospective analysis prone to ad-hoc application of narrative.
With Messi it was a case where he was widely regarded as the greatest already. He just needed this tournament to be able to put to bed the lazy argument that you can’t be the greatest if you don’t have a World Cup. And now it just so happens that he has it, off the back of an all-time classic of a match, and has pissed all over the debate.4 -
Dazzler21 said:Bloody auto correct.More concerned your phone thinks you use Madonna more than Maradona!Sort it out Dazzler!!2
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Agree, but Maradona, Pelé, Cruyff and other greats of yesteryear did not have YouTube, sports science, etc to prepare them.cafctom said:
Couldn’t have put it better.se9addick said:It’s now, objectively, completely undoubted that it’s Messi. People claiming that it’s Maradona even though they really only saw about ten hours of him actually playing or, even weirder, Pele who could have gone four years without Europeans seeing him play. Messi’s every kick in his career was broadcast worldwide. We saw all of it - we saw how it started, we saw the almost unbelievable things that happened at Barcelona, we saw the highs and the lows for Argentina until that Copa America win. Then we all saw him orchestrate a World Cup win, almost unimaginable.You can pretend that any of you saw those things for Pele or Maradona, but I’m very, very confident it’s not true.
Messi is, now, the greatest of all time.
A lot of accounts of Maradona and Pele is based 95% on the opinions and takes of others and retrospective analysis prone to ad-hoc application of narrative.
With Messi it was a case where he was widely regarded as the greatest already. He just needed this tournament to be able to put to bed the lazy argument that you can’t be the greatest if you don’t have a World Cup. And now it just so happens that he has it, off the back of an all-time classic of a match, and has pissed all over the debate.
After this afternoon, I have bowed to my boys' demand that I accept Messi is the GOAT, but difficult to compare across generations.
Btw: loved your write ups from Qatar. Thank you 👏2
