Was a specially invited crowd of local school children, orphans etc. 9-10k in total, think capacity is 15k-ish?
VG - those vuvuzela's are ridiculous, driving me mad, 4 weeks of them to come. How on earth does anyone think they add to the atmosphere and occasion? Huddersfield do them as well, along with their annoying drummer, awful.
Rob Green, Jamie Carragher, Michael Dawson, Matthew Upson, Stephen Warnock, Aaron Lennon, Michael Carrick, James Milner,Joe Cole, Emile Heskey and Wayne Rooney.
[quote][cite]Posted By: WestStandCookie[/cite]Ok, team to start vs USA:
Green
Johnson Terry King A. Cole
Lennon Gerrard Lampard J.Cole
Rooney Heskey
As Nolly says, discuss[/quote]
No discussion needed, agreed! Or swap Crouch for Heskey.
Somehow Heskey creates things for others and causes problems. Don't expect him to score, but he will create things and looks better at doing that than Crouch.
If only we had a player of the quality of Shearer/Sheringham/Ferdinand!
For the first time in ages (mainly cos I haven't seen him play for ages), Heskey actually looked dangerous to me. I'd play him, because I think in Onyewu, America have a big physical centre back, and so at least if we play Heskey, it allows either Rooney to be marked by a less physical defender, hopefully allowing Rooney to dominate his marker (if Onyewu is marking Heskey), or gives us an advantage with Heskey physically dominating the other centre back which should provide plenty of knock-downs for the on rushing midfielders (if Onyewu is marking Rooney).
Agree with your team Cookie, though Lennon blows hot and cold for me, but seeing as we have no other options (Wright Phillips cannot start imo) we shall have to go with him and hope he's hot.
Sparrows the only problems Hesky has caused so far is taking out the England captain. I still dont see how we can have an international forward playing in the world cup and people are willing to say "dont expect him to score". Christ if it was a defender i could except that maybe at a push a midfielder but a bloody forward no no no.
[quote][cite]Posted By: uncle[/cite]Sparrows the only problems Hesky has caused so far is taking out the England captain. I still dont see how we can have an international forward playing in the world cup and people are willing to say "dont expect him to score". Christ if it was a defender i could except that maybe at a push a midfielder but a bloody forward no no no.[/quote]
Caused a bit more than that in the game I was watching, albeit the opposition is poor. He somehow seems to bring more out of players when he plays for England, more so than Crouch, who looked pretty woeful. Don't think Defoe & Rooney work well. The other option is Gerrard off Rooney, but then you're asking Rooney to play more central and further up which limits his game. I've always held the same view as you hold as well, just don't see much other options except for a formation change.
Sven & Capello didn't seem to mind him not scoring, they get paid more than me or you!
OK...not exactly Michael Owen like, but before you jump ton conclusions, lets see when he scored these goals.
3 June 2000 Malta 2–1 Friendly
28 February 2001 Spain 3–0 Friendly
1 September 2001 Munich, Germany Germany 5–1 2002 FIFA World Cup qualification - he scored the fifth
15 June 2002 Denmark 3–0 2002 FIFA World Cup
22 May 2003 Durban, South Africa South Africa 2–1 Friendly
28 March 2009 Slovakia 4–0 Friendly
6 June 2009 Kazakhstan 4–0 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification
riiiiight....so 4 of his 7 goals came from friendlies, 1 came against Kazakhstan, and another at the end of a drubbing. yikes!
Lets not let that fool you though, because Emile brings so much more to the plate. You may not have heard this little gem, but Wayne Rooney scored 9 of his last 10 goals for England whilst playing beside Emile! Freak accident? Hardly.
Lets take a look at these games.
12 October 2008 Kazakhstan 5–1
15 October 2008 Belarus 3–1
15 October 2008 Belarus 3–1
28 March 2009 Slovakia 4–0
28 March 2009 Slovakia 4–0
6 June 2009 Kazakhstan 4–0
10 June 2009 Andorra 6–0
10 June 2009 Andorra 6–0
9 September 2009 Croatia 5–1
I think we all know Rooney wouldn't have had a hope in hell of scoring against the might of Andorra and Kazakhstan without big Emile playing beside him.
[cite]Posted By: JT[/cite]I liked this post on another forum;
7 goals for England in 58 caps.
OK...not exactly Michael Owen like, but before you jump ton conclusions, lets see when he scored these goals.
3 June 2000 Malta 2–1 Friendly
28 February 2001 Spain 3–0 Friendly
1 September 2001 Munich, Germany Germany 5–1 2002 FIFA World Cup qualification - he scored the fifth
15 June 2002 Denmark 3–0 2002 FIFA World Cup
22 May 2003 Durban, South Africa South Africa 2–1 Friendly
28 March 2009 Slovakia 4–0 Friendly
6 June 2009 Kazakhstan 4–0 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification
riiiiight....so 4 of his 7 goals came from friendlies, 1 came against Kazakhstan, and another at the end of a drubbing. yikes!
Lets not let that fool you though, because Emile brings so much more to the plate. You may not have heard this little gem, but Wayne Rooney scored 9 of his last 10 goals for England whilst playing beside Emile! Freak accident? Hardly.
Lets take a look at these games.
12 October 2008 Kazakhstan 5–1
15 October 2008 Belarus 3–1
15 October 2008 Belarus 3–1
28 March 2009 Slovakia 4–0
28 March 2009 Slovakia 4–0
6 June 2009 Kazakhstan 4–0
10 June 2009 Andorra 6–0
10 June 2009 Andorra 6–0
9 September 2009 Croatia 5–1
I think we all know Rooney wouldn't have had a hope in hell of scoring against the might of Andorra and Kazakhstan without big Emile playing beside him.
Bring on your Spains, Brazils and Argentinas
EDIT: WHOOSH ALERT
Yes, Rooney scored a lot of goals in those games. However, who is to say we wouldn't have scored even more with someone else up front alongside Rooney? Of course Rooney ends up scoring loads, because Heskey doesn't score ANY! Why would you ever try and put Heskey in a goalscoring chance when 51 times out of 58 he's going to miss it. He is absolute toilet.
And claiming "Freak accident? Hardly." isn't really a conclusive argument in favour of Emile actually doing anything.
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according to the commentator there's about 10k in there.
must be in the stand you can't see.
Do think He took a bung ?
Cheers link didnt work but went to bbc and much better quality....although when volumes on sounds like there are alot of bees there!
VG - those vuvuzela's are ridiculous, driving me mad, 4 weeks of them to come. How on earth does anyone think they add to the atmosphere and occasion? Huddersfield do them as well, along with their annoying drummer, awful.
second half team only Joe Cole survives
I am truly shocked! never thought anyone as clinical as him would miss anything easy ;o)
Heskey has been ok
the world cup ceo said that they get banned as soon as one lands on the pitch....
anyone going to a game and willing to do it at risk of being thrown out, for a large fee?
Green
Johnson
Terry
King
A. Cole
Lennon
Gerrard
Lampard
J.Cole
Rooney
Heskey
As Nolly says, discuss
Green
Johnson
Terry
King
A. Cole
Lennon
Gerrard
Lampard
J.Cole
Rooney
Heskey
As Nolly says, discuss[/quote]
No discussion needed, agreed! Or swap Crouch for Heskey.
Somehow Heskey creates things for others and causes problems. Don't expect him to score, but he will create things and looks better at doing that than Crouch.
If only we had a player of the quality of Shearer/Sheringham/Ferdinand!
Agree with your team Cookie, though Lennon blows hot and cold for me, but seeing as we have no other options (Wright Phillips cannot start imo) we shall have to go with him and hope he's hot.
Caused a bit more than that in the game I was watching, albeit the opposition is poor. He somehow seems to bring more out of players when he plays for England, more so than Crouch, who looked pretty woeful. Don't think Defoe & Rooney work well. The other option is Gerrard off Rooney, but then you're asking Rooney to play more central and further up which limits his game. I've always held the same view as you hold as well, just don't see much other options except for a formation change.
Sven & Capello didn't seem to mind him not scoring, they get paid more than me or you!
Johnson Terry King A Cole
Lampard Barry
Lennon J Cole
Gerrard
Rooney
EDIT: WHOOSH ALERT
Yes, Rooney scored a lot of goals in those games. However, who is to say we wouldn't have scored even more with someone else up front alongside Rooney? Of course Rooney ends up scoring loads, because Heskey doesn't score ANY! Why would you ever try and put Heskey in a goalscoring chance when 51 times out of 58 he's going to miss it. He is absolute toilet.
And claiming "Freak accident? Hardly." isn't really a conclusive argument in favour of Emile actually doing anything.