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which 23 would you chose today if you had to name the squad!

Mine is:

1) R Greene
2) G Johnson
3) L Bianes
4) S Gerrard
5) R Ferdiand
6) J Terry
7) T Walcott
8) F Lampard
9) W Rooney
10) J Defoe
11) G Barry
12) G Nevile
13) D James
14) S Warnock
15) M Dawson
16) M Upson
17) A Young
18) J Milner
19) J Hart
20) S Downing
21) M Carrick
22) P Crouch
23) D Bent
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  • edited April 2010
    Keepers: Hart, James, Robinson = 3
    Defenders: Johnson, Ferdinand, Terry, Cole, Baines, Upson, Brown = 7
    Midfield: Lampard, Barry, Gerrard, Walcott, Milner, A Young, A Johnson, Carrick = 8
    Strikers: Rooney, Crouch, Defoe, Bent, Heskey = 5

    I've left out Lennon because he's injured. Would possibly swap Dawson or King (depending on fitness) for Upson. It'll be nothing like the above though.

    I've left Robert Green out because he is rubbish.
  • Just checking, before I do mine, is there any FIFA rules to follow, ie is picking 3 keepers a necessity?
  • [cite]Posted By: dabos[/cite]Keepers: Hart, James, Robinson = 3
    Defenders: Johnson, Ferdinand, Terry, Cole, Baines, Upson, Brown = 7
    Midfield: Lampard, Barry, Gerrard, Walcott, Milner, A Young, A Johnson, Carrick = 8
    Strikers: Rooney, Crouch, Defoe, Bent, Heskey = 5

    I've left out Lennon because he's injured. Would possibly swap Dawson or King (depending on fitness) for Upson. It'll be nothing like the above though.

    I've left Robert Green out because he is rubbish.

    Cole and Brown would be ruled out through injury.
  • Hart, James, Robinson.

    G.Johnson, G.Neville, Terry, Ferdinand, Jagielka, Lescott, Baines,

    Walcott, S.Wright-Phillips, Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Parker, Milner, A.Johnson

    Rooney, Heskey, Crouch, Bent, Defoe



    One left back as Lescott or Barry could play there if need be. Tempted by Warnock or Konchesky though.

    No Green or Upson - Do I need to explain why?

    No C.Cole as Crouch is Heskey's back up and both Bent and Defoe offer something different.

    Parker ahead of Carrick - better player in my opinion. Could rough up Spain if needed. Carrick hasn't got that in him. Would take Hargreaves instead if fit though.

    G.Neville and A.Johnson as wild cards.

    Wright-Phillips instead of A.Young as he always seems to perform for England - tough call though. No Lennon due to injury but I'd take him ahead of SWP if fit.
  • edited April 2010
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  • JohnBoy - I am totally in agreement with your way of thinking.
    In my mind taking 3 keepers instead of 2 has always appeared as a waste of an outfield player.
    If you are unlucky enough to suffer 2 injured keepers, then my logic says the cup doesn't have your name on it, pack your bags and go home!
    Like you suggest, it might be on the insistance of FIFA regarding 3 keepers.
  • I wouldnt even let Wes Brown pack the bags onto the plane. Cant stand the Bake Bean....terrible player.
  • edited April 2010
    green , james = 2
    baines , warnock , johnson , neville , terry , ferdinand , lescott , upson = 8
    wright phillips , young , lampard , gerrard , parker/hargreaves (depends on fitness for hargreaves) , arteta ???, milner , a jonhson = 9
    rooney , defoe . crouch , bent , heskey = 5
  • You'd all take Lampard? Is that just because he's a mainstay or do you all rate him? Maybe I'm just blinded by hate, but all I see him offer is the occasional goal and a big belly load of lacklustre effort.
  • yeah 4 goals against Aston Villa and over 20 in his last 4 seasons from midfield isnt all its cracked up to be!...was one of Englands better players during Qualification.
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  • [cite]Posted By: Chunes[/cite]You'd all take Lampard? Is that just because he's a mainstay or do you all rate him? Maybe I'm just blinded by hate, but all I see him offer is the occasional goal and a big belly load of lacklustre effort.[/quo

    I rate him, he offers alot of goals from Midfield and links play well.
  • interesting that these can all play for england , not that i would want any apart from arteta maybe ????
    Carlos Cuellar
    Mikel Arteta
    Manuel Almunia (he's crap but you know)
    Charles N'Zogbia
    Sylvain Distin
  • I'll tell you what, its a bloody lot harder than I thought it would be. I dont envy Capello one little bit lol.

    Assuming A Cole and Beckham unavailable, Lennon fit and 3 keepers...

    Keepers: James, Robinson, Hart (3)
    Defenders: Ferdinand, Terry, Dawson, Neville, Johnson, Jagielka, Baines (7)
    Midfielders: Gerrard, Carrick, Barry, Lennon, Milner, Huddlestone, J Cole, Young, Walcott (9)
    Forwards: W Rooney, P Crouch, J Defoe, E Heskey (4)

    Standby: Bent, Davies (Bolton), Johnson (Birmingham), Warnock, Downing.

    If you dont have to have 3 keepers, leave out Hart and take Darren Bent.

    Terribly difficult to decide. I have to say although I love him to bits, I'd leave out Ledley King completely. You cant risk him breaking down in training. Gone with 4 recognised Centre Halves, got cover for each full back, would actually start with Barry at LB, Neville at RB. 4 recognised CMs, 2 RMs (Lennon/Walcott), 2 LMs (Milner/Young), knowing Cole and Walcott could quite easily fill in up front or behind Rooney if required. The usual 4 up front, Rooney picks himself, and plays well with Heskey, then Defoe and Crouch as a pairing god forbid anything happens to Rooney.

    Lastly, I left out Frank Lampard. I'd rather see Gerard played in his natural position than being forced out of position to get Lampard in the team. For me, its all about balance. When Lampard and Gerard play together, it just doesnt work full stop.
  • I thought i heard Ashley Cole would be back before end of the season for Chelski.
  • Hart, James, Robinson

    G. Johnson, G. Neville, Terry, Ferdinand, Lescott, Jagielka, Baines, A. Cole

    Walcott, Milner, Lennon, Barry, Lampard, Carrick, Gerrard, Downing

    Rooney, Crouch, Defoe, Bent.

    The caveats...

    Robinson needs to get back to fitness and play for Blackburn without side-effect by the end of the season or Robert Green will replace him

    If A.Cole doesn't get back to fitness then Warnock is my replacement

    If Lescott doesn't make it then I'd like Dawson to go

    In the likelihood that Lennon isn't fit then I'm really clutching at straws... I'd take Ashley Young but Capello would go for SWP

    Any niggles up front and Agbonlahor is my reserve "little man" and Heskey my reserve "big man" up front
  • [cite]Posted By: roseandcrown[/cite]which 23 would you chose today if you had to name the squad!

    Mine is:

    1) R Greene
    2) G Johnson
    3) L Bianes
    4) S Gerrard
    5) R Ferdiand
    6) J Terry
    7) T Walcott
    8) F Lampard
    9) W Rooney
    10) J Defoe
    11) G Barry
    12) G Nevile
    13) D James
    14) S Warnock
    15) M Dawson
    16) M Upson
    17) A Young
    18) J Milner
    19) J Hart
    20) S Downing
    21) M Carrick
    22) P Crouch
    23) D Bent

    I have gone on the basis that W Brown, A lennon, A Cole and J Lescott are all not fit. Forgot about Barry playing LB as well so would take out Warnock and replace with Heskey for anotehr big man.
  • ................Hart....................
    Milner...Terry...Ferdinand....A Cole
    .....Lampard...Barry...Gerrard......
    Lennon......Defoe......Rooney......

    GK - James, Robinson (3 total)
    Def - G Johnson, Baines, Jagielka, R Johnson (7 total)
    Mid - Walcott, A Young, Parker or Hargreaves (8 total)
    Att - Bent, Crouch, Heskey (5 total)
  • dont know how anyone can say take Hargreaves, he has not played for donkeys!
  • [cite]Posted By: Sparrows Lane Lion[/cite]................Hart....................
    Milner...Terry...Ferdinand....A Cole
    .....Lampard...Barry...Gerrard......
    Lennon......Defoe......Rooney......

    GK - James, Robinson (3 total)
    Def - G Johnson, Baines, Jagielka, R Johnson (7 total)
    Mid - Walcott, A Young, Parker or Hargreaves (8 total)
    Att - Bent, Crouch, Heskey (5 total)

    Good system, wrong players. Milner would be wasted at right back, especially when you've got a decent attacking full back in Johnson. Defoe would not be able to play in the middle of 3 forwards either. England aren't Barcelona.

    I would stick with Capello's (successful) system, but if I were to play 4-3-3 It would be with Heskey/Crouch/Rooney in the middle with Lennon and A.Johnson either side.
  • Huddlestone & Jenas are laughable.
    Carrick is extremely overrated.
    Barton is no longer viable.
    Nor is Nolan sadly.
    Bowyer could be a surprise pick.
    Gardener not really proven yet.
    Cattermole not had a consistent run I don't think.
    Rodwell is a quality player, feel he is a bit too inexperienced and young though.

    In fact, scrub that, drop Parker out of my squad and stick Rodwell in.
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  • I will trust Fergies judgement on Carrick! best passer of the ball we have got.
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: The Red Robin[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: Sparrows Lane Lion[/cite]................Hart....................
    Milner...Terry...Ferdinand....A Cole
    .....Lampard...Barry...Gerrard......
    Lennon......Defoe......Rooney......

    GK - James, Robinson (3 total)
    Def - G Johnson, Baines, Jagielka, R Johnson (7 total)
    Mid - Walcott, A Young, Parker or Hargreaves (8 total)
    Att - Bent, Crouch, Heskey (5 total)[/quote]

    Good system, wrong players. Milner would be wasted at right back, especially when you've got a decent attacking full back in Johnson. Defoe would not be able to play in the middle of 3 forwards either. England aren't Barcelona.

    I would stick with Capello's (successful) system, but if I were to play 4-3-3 It would be with Heskey/Crouch/Rooney in the middle with Lennon and A.Johnson either side.[/quote]

    I'd expect Rooney & Defoe to be interchanging a lot.

    Milner is far more intelligent than Johnson and I reckon could play that role better. I'd be looking for him & Cole to almost play as wing backs, with Barry dropping deeper if he has to.

    Although ideally I liked the way Baines & Milner played together, albeit for 20 minutes or so, against Egypt the other week.

    If Cole was injured, I'd have Baines & Milner down the left, a very solid and workmanlike partnership who also get forward and can create.

    Would be concerned with Lennon & Johnson on the right being exposed though.
  • [quote][cite]Posted By: roseandcrown[/cite]I will trust Fergies judgement on Carrick! best passer of the ball we have got.[/quote]

    Quite. Apart from his misplaced pass that set Liverpool on their way to score and another few errors Tuesday that allowed Munich to threaten.

    When he has time, (eg v Egypt) he can pick a pass well. But when the play is a little more congested and tight, he seems to rush a little, his control gets heavy and then his passing is snatched and becomes a little more wayward.

    In my opinion Gerrard is a far better passer than Carrick. As is Scholes. & Milner.
  • Carrick does seem to split opinons! Talk Sport had a debate about Carrick a few weeks back and it was split 50/50
  • Indeed. Even United fans are split on him. A lot of tottenham I knew were very happy with what they got for him (Palacios looks a better player!), but then a few others really rated him.

    I just don't really think he is as talented as the media make out and that's without adding in his west ham connections!

    Huddlestone is another. He should be a superb player, he looks to possess the size to dominate and outmuscle the midfield, but he rarely does. He shows glimpses of graceful and incisive passing, then reverts back to giving it away. He will hit a thunderous shot, but hit many wayward ones. He just looks a yard off the pace in all areas, needs to lose some timber & sharpen his brain!
  • [cite]Posted By: roseandcrown[/cite]dont know how anyone can say take Hargreaves, he has not played for donkeys!

    He won't play professional football again.
    [cite]Posted By: JohnBoyUK[/cite]Lastly, I left out Frank Lampard. I'd rather see Gerard played in his natural position than being forced out of position to get Lampard in the team. For me, its all about balance. When Lampard and Gerard play together, it just doesnt work full stop.

    Since when has Gerrard been a central midfielder? He rarely (if ever) plays there for Liverpool. We would get ripped to pieces if he played centre midfield. Interesting to see a majority leave Robert Green out - I too am surprised Fabio rates him above James, Hart and Robbo.
  • 1- Robinson
    2- Glen Johnson
    3- A Cole
    4- Gerrard
    5- Ferdinand
    6- Terry
    7- Lennon
    8- Lampard
    9- Heskey
    10- Rooney
    11- Barry

    12- Wes Brown if fit as we need versatlity. There will be inevitable injuries especially with Ferdinand and his dodgy back.
    13- Rob Green
    14- Lescott
    15- Upson (would rather Dawson or Cahill but Upson is a cert imho)
    16- Carrick
    17- Walcott
    18- Milner
    19- A Johnson (dark horse, if not would not be shocked to see J Cole or Downing on the plane)
    20- Crouch
    21- Bent
    22- Defoe
    23- Hart
  • [cite]Posted By: JohnBoyUK[/cite]Just checking, before I do mine, is there any FIFA rules to follow, ie is picking 3 keepers a necessity?
    Yes 3 keepers is a rule.
  • [cite]Posted By: roseandcrown[/cite]I will trust Fergies judgement on Carrick! best passer of the ball we have got.

    He's pants IMHO. Owen the Canadian/German Englishman all day every day.
  • Why is everyone not considering Joe Cole?
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