Why did Depp bother, if he is guilty of the papers claim?
Depending on where the abuse took place, could both him and his Mrs now face criminal prosecution, even if neither want to press charges
he probably bothered because any 'suspicion' of wife beating could make him unemployable and a hate figure .. he almost certainly needs the adoration and fame despite all the millions he has made from (e.g.) Pirates of the Caribbean
I could understand that logic if he was innocent, but he weren't. So, purely talking about his reputation here, surely he'd have been better to just let the reports go?
It’s a good point, I wasn’t really aware of the allegations before the case - I’m guessing many were similar to me in that respect. If he had just left it then, if anyone brought it up in the future, he could just say it was a load of bollocks but he’s forced the issue here and it’s gone against him.
I can only imagine that being a superstar for a long time can wreck your brain and you make decisions that normal folk wouldn’t.
Well, the libel suit was brought against the Sun who published an article attacking JK Rowling for letting him be cast in Fabulous Beasts. The article said that she and Warner Bros weer being challenged vociferously by the Me Too movement for casting Depp.
So, I don't think he started this with the idea of clearing his name with Joe public but becasue he was at risk of not getting roles in the future. Obviously that's all back fired on him.
Let's be honest, the allegations came from the Sun newspaper. He could have said, he won't sue them because their credibility for honest reporting is so low it is pointless. It looks like he is probably a wife beater and she is possibly a husband beater. Both careers are damaged and we are reminded that money and success is not the secret to happiness.
But that's no fun.
My lesson is if you think she's crazy hot and you're crazy about her... You're both likely fricken crazy!
You should both get out whilst you still can.
The balance of probability. A much easier bar in civil cases. Hence why it seems in the US so many civil cases get overturned if you can afford an appeal: I know it's a UK libel case and these aren't often appealed due to cost.
Frankly if the best evidence was the video of him having an utterly pathetic tantrum, then I do wonder how the majority of assaults were proven past the balance of probability. On the other side if it is appealed, the ability of Depp to throw money at this libel case makes me question any 'new' evidence he provides. Agree with Chris. Dan Wootton and The Sun claiming any moral victory whilst the Murdoch empire loves to employ toxic morally repugnant people is true slime. Roger Ailes for supper and sexual harrasment Mr Murdoch.
I listened to a senior media lawyer on Radio London discussing the case and the Judge's decision was pretty damning against Depp. There seemed to be a considerable amount of evidence according to the judgement - we should be concentrating on the issue of domestic abuse not on our dislike of the Sun.
To call him a domestic abuser (something that this case has not done) is a pretty big accusation. It's clear both of them were physical in both loving ways and violent ways. Something that went on for quite some time. She even cut his finger tip off!
Depp however is painted worse than Heard by the media because he's the male.
That's equality of sexes right there...
I listened to Mark Stephens who is a senior media lawyer talking about the case this morning and he said the judge was damning of Depp in his judgement - it was his libel case not Heard's. I haven't read through the legal judgement but I'm happy to listen to the views of Stephens.
The evidence was pretty conclusive by all accounts. Domestic abuse needs to be condemned whoever perpetrates it.
If the verdict is unfair then I imagine Drop will win on appeal but I won't hold my breath.
I'm not saying the verdict is unfair, I am saying the media portrayal ignoring Heards abuse of Depp is unfair.
Neither sound like the kind of people you'd want a relative dating.
To be fair, there's been pretty extensive media criticism of Heard's conduct recently. It's been an interesting case in the way it's swung. Initially Depp was given hell when Heard accused him, then once he started releasing some evidence of his own public opinion swung really badly against her and there was talk of her being fired from the Aquaman films. Following the libel case outcome though British media has turned back to where it was before. It's typical of the media's desire to always pick a side so they can be seen as championing the right cause. I reckon a lot of the media outlets giving Depp grief now wrote plenty of articles criticisng her. In fact, I just had a quick look on the Daily Mail and from February to July it was all critical articles about Amber Heard and the things she'd said and done. Today's article is about 'emotional Amber Heard' hugging her family. They just pick the side they think will get them the most clicks at the time
The balance of probability. A much easier bar in civil cases. Hence why it seems in the US so many civil cases get overturned if you can afford an appeal: I know it's a UK libel case and these aren't often appealed due to cost.
Frankly if the best evidence was the video of him having an utterly pathetic tantrum, then I do wonder how the majority of assaults were proven past the balance of probability. On the other side if it is appealed, the ability of Depp to throw money at this libel case makes me question any 'new' evidence he provides. Agree with Chris. Dan Wootton and The Sun claiming any moral victory whilst the Murdoch empire loves to employ toxic morally repugnant people is true slime. Roger Ailes for supper and sexual harrasment Mr Murdoch.
I listened to a senior media lawyer on Radio London discussing the case and the Judge's decision was pretty damning against Depp. There seemed to be a considerable amount of evidence according to the judgement - we should be concentrating on the issue of domestic abuse not on our dislike of the Sun.
To call him a domestic abuser (something that this case has not done) is a pretty big accusation. It's clear both of them were physical in both loving ways and violent ways. Something that went on for quite some time. She even cut his finger tip off!
Depp however is painted worse than Heard by the media because he's the male.
That's equality of sexes right there...
I listened to Mark Stephens who is a senior media lawyer talking about the case this morning and he said the judge was damning of Depp in his judgement - it was his libel case not Heard's. I haven't read through the legal judgement but I'm happy to listen to the views of Stephens.
The evidence was pretty conclusive by all accounts. Domestic abuse needs to be condemned whoever perpetrates it.
If the verdict is unfair then I imagine Drop will win on appeal but I won't hold my breath.
I'm not saying the verdict is unfair, I am saying the media portrayal ignoring Heards abuse of Depp is unfair.
Neither sound like the kind of people you'd want a relative dating.
To be fair, there's been pretty extensive media criticism of Heard's conduct recently. It's been an interesting case in the way it's swung. Initially Depp was given hell when Heard accused him, then once he started releasing some evidence of his own public opinion swung really badly against her and there was talk of her being fired from the Aquaman films. Following the libel case outcome though British media has turned back to where it was before. It's typical of the media's desire to always pick a side so they can be seen as championing the right cause. I reckon a lot of the media outlets giving Depp grief now wrote plenty of articles criticisng her. In fact, I just had a quick look on the Daily Mail and from February to July it was all critical articles about Amber Heard and the things she'd said and done. Today's article is about 'emotional Amber Heard' hugging her family. They just pick the side they think will get them the most clicks at the time
Exactly this, and pretty much said the same thing (just not as well) about Dan Wootton who wrote the original story. Didn't hear a peep from him during the trial when public opinion was all for Depp, he didn't want to know, didn't even attend a single day of the trial.
Now he won't shut up. At least 7 posts about it in the past 24 hours including one that said "Thank you Amber for your bravery".
Having a pissed dust up with your bird is a bit different from Spacey's misdemeanours tbf! Not that anyone's behaviour in all of this is cool obviously.
I've been watching a lot of this courtroom stuff today. It's more like watching Inside The Actors' Studio than a court case! Right now I am listening to him talk about watching cartoons and wanting to be in Pirates of the Caribbean. It's brilliant to watch but no idea why the judge isn't saying "get to the point!".
Also, I believe every word he says and think she's an absolute lunatic.
I suspect most people made their minds up about this one a long time ago.
Whatever the outcome I hope that these "landmines" that men and sometimes women stand on ("domestics") are explained to young people long before they find themselves in these desperate situations. . So they are fully aware what to expect. It is built into most men (clearly not "Jonny Deep" it would seem) to defend women at all times and in all situations. So far so good. When a very manipulative woman however, behaves disgracefully and knows (for a time) she will have virtually all men, all women, The State. The Law etc on her side this becomes a very serious situation that a lot of men have no idea awaits thrm. Who may in fact be completely innocent of what this particular woman is saying. To tell young people this stuff is going on everywhere and prepare for it seems wise and fair.
I hear of many situations ~ very serious situations ~ that have arisen in relationships where these " landmines" have never been considered. And all hell is breaking loose in that home either instigated by one partner or the other or both.
Surprised that so many people have such strong views on this, taken one side, and getting into inflamed arguments. I know it's the way of the world online but it's strange. Nobody knows these two people, nobody knows the truth of the matter. I understand it's "news" as they are famous, but some of the vitriol is just odd.
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So, I don't think he started this with the idea of clearing his name with Joe public but becasue he was at risk of not getting roles in the future. Obviously that's all back fired on him.
Took me a while to 'get it' but that's very good.
Now he won't shut up. At least 7 posts about it in the past 24 hours including one that said "Thank you Amber for your bravery".
Also, I believe every word he says and think she's an absolute lunatic.
Whatever the outcome I hope that these "landmines" that men and sometimes women stand on ("domestics") are explained to young people long before they find themselves in these desperate situations. . So they are fully aware what to expect. It is built into most men (clearly not "Jonny Deep" it would seem) to defend women at all times and in all situations. So far so good. When a very manipulative woman however, behaves disgracefully and knows (for a time) she will have virtually all men, all women, The State. The Law etc on her side this becomes a very serious situation that a lot of men have no idea awaits thrm. Who may in fact be completely innocent of what this particular woman is saying. To tell young people this stuff is going on everywhere and prepare for it seems wise and fair.
I hear of many situations ~ very serious situations ~ that have arisen in relationships where these " landmines" have never been considered. And all hell is breaking loose in that home either instigated by one partner or the other or both.