The bored users of Charlton Life were watching IN ANTICIPATION surely showing that this was one of the few things in the close season that was not boring?
But Manic_Mania and lordromford both chose to take it as an attack.
I considered giving you a pity lol, but I think i'll just hold off and wait for someone who wants to actually talk about the thread topic instead of slagging the participants.
Now that it’s over I will admit, working a week of nights on then two weeks off, the last two weeks until jury went to deliberation I was off and I watched every hour of the livestream religiously. Couldn’t get enough of it. Having never seen any court proceedings and not being required at the time for jury service it was fascinating to me to watch how each individual withstood testimony, cross examinations, rebuttals etc.
No doubt in my mind that Heard fabricated a huge amount of her claims.
It was stunning viewing. Stunning how badly heards legal team were prepared.
Johnny Depp though had a fantastic legal team.
I think as others have said, the case to the public was about finding the truth of what went on. The fact Heard kept trying to play victim after all the abuse she gave Depp was infuriating.
As a child I watched my Mum be a victim of domestic abuse to two separate partners. Heard showed not one sign of a domestic abuse victim.
Depp was not innocent in all of this. He said some dark stuff to her too. I think any abuse from him appeared to have been more psychological and maybe that's why Heard came across like she did. Maybe she really was hurt by it.
Either way the abuse appears two way and yet it was only Depp that was affected by Heard's article and the case in the UK. His career was cut to shit, whilst hers thrived.
it wasn't the Heard trial in the UK - she was a witness - it was against Dan Wooton who edited the Sun newspaper at the time, and lots of evidence was withheld
the majority of (in my opinion) the reason why JD won is because of Ambers testimony - she let in the TMZ guy and Kate Moss which is what I think swung it
I was running my son's under-8 football team at the time and one of the Mum's, Kylie, was an absolute gold star MILF and a right flirt to boot.
Kylie texted me before training and said her boy wouldn't be there as they were going to see Johnny Depp who was filming right in the harbour and was going to come ashore to do a meet and greet with the locals.
She then texts me a picture of her and her son, the boy was dressed up in his pirate gear and she was in an all-black two-piece ensemble that was allegedly gym wear but could have easily be classed as a bikini.
"Do you reckon Johnny will have a nice little chat with me?" she texted, making it quite obvious what she meant.
Quite frankly I would have instantly dumped my wife and kids for just a 30 second fumble with her but I wasn't sure Johnny didn't have rather higher standards than a fat, bald bloke in his late 40's.
Anyway, she turns up down there, looking absolutely ravishing and collars Johnny as he is wrapping up doing a long meet and greet with the locals.
"Hey Johnny," she says, no doubt in her extraordinarily coquettish fashion, "How are you enjoying Cleveland?"
"Not very much really sweetheart," he replied, smiling sweetly but walking straight past her on his way to his waiting car!
Johnny Depp can now return to doing what he does best ~ acting in crap films.And Amber Heard can return to what she is best atv~ lying, abusing her partners and claiming victimhood
Depp is 58 and not a single one of his many famous ex's have ever mentioned that he abused them in any way. Heard is 36 and already has previous for domestic violence.
The legal question that's being addressed is whether or not Amber Heard's OpEd is true and whether it's defamatory. The fact that they've both come out of this in a much worse state than they entered is mere fluff. The legal case rests on whether what she wrote about him was true and, if not, did it damage him, materially.
So far, legally, it seems both parties are on for a big loss.
I read that Elon Musk is paying Amber’s legal bills. He also made a £400,000 contribution to the donations she was supposed to be making out of the divorce settlement.
He had better NOT be paying her legal bills as Heard said on oath that the reason she hasn’t given the 2 charities her $7m divorce monies was due to Depp suing her - insinuating it was needed to pay their $6m fees. More lies, Miss Heard?
It was stunning viewing. Stunning how badly heards legal team were prepared.
Johnny Depp though had a fantastic legal team.
I think as others have said, the case to the public was about finding the truth of what went on. The fact Heard kept trying to play victim after all the abuse she gave Depp was infuriating.
As a child I watched my Mum be a victim of domestic abuse to two separate partners. Heard showed not one sign of a domestic abuse victim.
Depp was not innocent in all of this. He said some dark stuff to her too. I think any abuse from him appeared to have been more psychological and maybe that's why Heard came across like she did. Maybe she really was hurt by it.
Either way the abuse appears two way and yet it was only Depp that was affected by Heard's article and the case in the UK. His career was cut to shit, whilst hers thrived.
The result appears fair.
….Amber will be very cross with Dazzler as she insists that she has never seen or called herself a ‘victim’! Tutt.
Oh the irony... She recorded everything so the world could see and hear the troubles Depp went through and how he abused her - Instead one of those recordings was probably what helped her lose the case.
She certainly needs help, there was that psychologist who evaluated Heard and said she had a personality disorder.
Yep. The other one, for me, was the fact that snap-happy, evidence-addict Amber alleged rape with a bottle (during which she alleged bleeding) and yet not only didn’t record any injury, she didn’t even bother seeing her private doctor. Ditto when he allegedly punched her in the face countless times with a fist full of large rings that she felt meant her nose was broken. For me, that’s when the tide turned and the jury were left doubting anything that came out of her mouth.
I’m no Johnny fan as you certainly wouldn’t want your sister or daughter going out with him but, jeeze, she came across as one particularly nasty, malicious, vindictive, abusing, unreliable woman and witness. Left you wanting her to lose, frankly.
Yep. The other one, for me, was the fact that snap-happy, evidence-addict Amber alleged rape with a bottle (during which she alleged bleeding) and yet not only didn’t record any injury, she didn’t even bother seeing her private doctor. Ditto when he allegedly punched her in the face countless times with a fist full of large rings that she felt meant her nose was broken. For me, that’s when the tide turned and the jury were left doubting anything that came out of her mouth.
I’m no Johnny fan as you certainly wouldn’t want your sister or daughter going out with him but, jeeze, she came across as one particularly nasty, malicious, vindictive, abusing, unreliable woman and witness. Left you wanting her to lose, frankly.
Possibly but he was with Jennifer Grey, Winona Ryder, Kate Moss and then Vanessa Paradis for over 10 years and as far as i'm aware not one of them ever said anything about any violence towards them.
Yet suddenly he's supposed to have turned into this monster. It's obviously possible but i find it hard to believe much of what she said.
True story….my wife before we met, worked in a radio station in Hartford, CT in the late 80s and Johnny Depp before he was super famous was on a promo tour for 21 Jump Street and did an interview. On the way out he started flirting with her and asked her out to lunch. She politely turned him down. I said to her yesterday that ‘you dodged a bullet there’…..lol
There is a rumour concerning Amber Heard's hiring of "expert witness" Dr David Spiegel. He's the bizarre, bumbling, odd character called on to give his opinion on Jonny Depp's mental health.
Dr David Spiegel, centre
His testimony was so amateurish and unconvincing that some people have suggested Miss Heard's team hired the wrong person.
There are suggestions that this person is the psychiatrist they intended to hire. He is Willson Professor and Associate Chair of Psychiatry & Behavioral Sciences, Director of the Center on Stress and Health, and Medical Director of the Center for Integrative Medicine at Stanford University School of Medicine, where he has been a member of the academic faculty since 1975, and was Chair of the Stanford University Faculty Senate from 2010-2011. Dr. Spiegel has more than 40 years of clinical and research experience studying psycho-oncology, stress and health, pain control, psychoneuroendocrinology, sleep, hypnosis, and conducting randomized clinical trials involving psychotherapy for cancer patients. He has published thirteen books, 404 scientific journal articles, and 170 book chapters on hypnosis, psychosocial oncology, stress physiology, trauma, and psychotherapy.
Unfortunately he's also called Dr David Spiegel. And it looks like they inadvertently hired the wrong Dr David Spiegel.
Call our the internet all you want. A jury of their peers found it overwhelmingly in his favour.
He might have a history of drug abuse. He might be a rock star. Whatever.
For Heard to have won that trial she needed to present one piece of evidence beyond reasonable doubt. She couldn't and therefore she didn't.
If even one person of that jury thought she was telling the truth about absolutely anything there would be a mistrial. There isn't. But you know the internet is misogynistic. Give over.
She dared him to tell the world. She dared him to say "I Johnny Depp am a victim of domestic violence". He did. And again, a jury of their peers found in his favour.
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The bored users of Charlton Life were watching IN ANTICIPATION surely showing that this was one of the few things in the close season that was not boring?
But Manic_Mania and lordromford both chose to take it as an attack.
Dazzler made note to do better in future.
No doubt in my mind that Heard fabricated a huge amount of her claims.
Johnny Depp though had a fantastic legal team.
I think as others have said, the case to the public was about finding the truth of what went on. The fact Heard kept trying to play victim after all the abuse she gave Depp was infuriating.
As a child I watched my Mum be a victim of domestic abuse to two separate partners. Heard showed not one sign of a domestic abuse victim.
Depp was not innocent in all of this. He said some dark stuff to her too. I think any abuse from him appeared to have been more psychological and maybe that's why Heard came across like she did. Maybe she really was hurt by it.
Either way the abuse appears two way and yet it was only Depp that was affected by Heard's article and the case in the UK. His career was cut to shit, whilst hers thrived.
The result appears fair.
why are we putting more weight on this trial than the other trial ?
Back in 2015 Depp came to our suburb to film Pirates of the Caribbean or one of the sequels, it was literally being filmed at the end of our street.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/johnny-depp-wows-crowd-at-raby-bay-20150602-gherhk.html
I was running my son's under-8 football team at the time and one of the Mum's, Kylie, was an absolute gold star MILF and a right flirt to boot.
Kylie texted me before training and said her boy wouldn't be there as they were going to see Johnny Depp who was filming right in the harbour and was going to come ashore to do a meet and greet with the locals.
She then texts me a picture of her and her son, the boy was dressed up in his pirate gear and she was in an all-black two-piece ensemble that was allegedly gym wear but could have easily be classed as a bikini.
"Do you reckon Johnny will have a nice little chat with me?" she texted, making it quite obvious what she meant.
Quite frankly I would have instantly dumped my wife and kids for just a 30 second fumble with her but I wasn't sure Johnny didn't have rather higher standards than a fat, bald bloke in his late 40's.
Anyway, she turns up down there, looking absolutely ravishing and collars Johnny as he is wrapping up doing a long meet and greet with the locals.
"Hey Johnny," she says, no doubt in her extraordinarily coquettish fashion, "How are you enjoying Cleveland?"
"Not very much really sweetheart," he replied, smiling sweetly but walking straight past her on his way to his waiting car!
Life is all about levels really, isn't it?
"Tell the world, Johnny, tell them, 'Johnny Depp, I, a man, I'm a victim too of domestic violence'. And see how many people believe or side with you"
The moment that swung it for me
She certainly needs help, there was that psychologist who evaluated Heard and said she had a personality disorder.
I’m no Johnny fan as you certainly wouldn’t want your sister or daughter going out with him but, jeeze, she came across as one particularly nasty, malicious, vindictive, abusing, unreliable woman and witness. Left you wanting her to lose, frankly.
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Yet suddenly he's supposed to have turned into this monster. It's obviously possible but i find it hard to believe much of what she said.
Dr David Spiegel, centre
His testimony was so amateurish and unconvincing that some people have suggested Miss Heard's team hired the wrong person.
There are suggestions that this person is the psychiatrist they intended to hire. He is Willson Professor and Associate Chair of Psychiatry & Behavioral Sciences, Director of the Center on Stress and Health, and Medical Director of the Center for Integrative Medicine at Stanford University School of Medicine, where he has been a member of the academic faculty since 1975, and was Chair of the Stanford University Faculty Senate from 2010-2011. Dr. Spiegel has more than 40 years of clinical and research experience studying psycho-oncology, stress and health, pain control, psychoneuroendocrinology, sleep, hypnosis, and conducting randomized clinical trials involving psychotherapy for cancer patients. He has published thirteen books, 404 scientific journal articles, and 170 book chapters on hypnosis, psychosocial oncology, stress physiology, trauma, and psychotherapy.
Unfortunately he's also called Dr David Spiegel. And it looks like they inadvertently hired the wrong Dr David Spiegel.
https://www.readthepresentage.com/p/johnny-depp-amber-heard?s=r
He might have a history of drug abuse. He might be a rock star. Whatever.
For Heard to have won that trial she needed to present one piece of evidence beyond reasonable doubt. She couldn't and therefore she didn't.
If even one person of that jury thought she was telling the truth about absolutely anything there would be a mistrial. There isn't. But you know the internet is misogynistic. Give over.
She dared him to tell the world. She dared him to say "I Johnny Depp am a victim of domestic violence". He did. And again, a jury of their peers found in his favour.
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