[cite]Posted By: Chris_from_Sidcup[/cite]Gary - i must admit Andy does generally talk some crap on here but i've got to defend him here, are you honestly seriously trying to say that Chamakh is better than Rooney?
at the moment mate, 100%. Chamakh is a player still finding his feet in the premiership. he's got 3 goals and 3 assists already in the league and has scored in the last 6 champions league games. He's improving and Rooney is getting worse. Whats to say wayne is going to find this return of form?
[cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]Culturally I think Rooney would struggle at Arsenal, so I'm convinced he'll be City's last great big spend before the UEFA fair finance rules kick in
The most likely outcome, if they ship out some backups e.g. Adebayor, Bellamy, they will probably "save" enough to be able to offer Rooney the massive wages he would demand from City and they will still have a similar wage bill to what they have at the moment.
City have been saying they have a way round the UEFA finance rules such as getting middle eastern companies to offer multi million sponsorships but UEFA have said these will be forbidden under the new rules so it will be interesting to see what they come up with.
The other likely destination is Real, Rooney is a big name, will sell shirts, tax is lower for foreign footballers in Spain so they won't have to offer as much as CIty and they could possibly offer Benzema in a part swap deal.
Rooney's biggest problem is finding some form, until he does that the people will be VERY nervous about giving him a 200K four-year deal, which is what he is really after (or his "advisers" are).
He does not seem to be mentally or physically up to the challenge at the moment and you'd have to say that putting his future up for grabs is not going to help him re-capture that form one little bit.
Fergie, being the hard bastard that he is, will probably find Wayne a nice little spot on the bench so he can have a good, long think about it.
What's the betting that United sell Rooney and end up getting Torres? Not a bad deal in my book.
He's a great player but will need a strong Ferguson type manager, I can see his career heading on a downward spiral if he leaves Man Utd. The guy's an utter dick, look at the way he celebrates scoring at Goodison Park, kissing the badge in front of the Everton fans and going ott, there's no need for it, calm down, calm down!
Rooney will never play in Spain - Guardiola wouldn't have him and neither would Mourinho. If Real had a different manager he might have ended up there, but even then it would be a stretch to suggest they would want him (he doesn't exactly give off the vibe that he would pick up the language that easily).
Italian clubs don't have the money to pay for him, so they're out
At his age, there's no way he would want to go to the MLS (unless it really is all about the cash with him and nothing else matters)
Realistically, the only teams he could go to are Chelski and Man Shitty. Personally, I think he's crocked. His ankle is hosed, and Ferguson has concocted a story about him wanting to leave to try and generate a bidding war between the two of them in the transfer window. That way he can keep Shrek on the bench with the occasional start, and blame his poor form on the fact he's unsettled. Rooney himself won't give a shit as he stands to make an absolute fortune from a front-loaded new contract, and probably wants out of Old Trafford anyway - since the club is f***ed and going the way of the mickeys in a couple of years.
Leroy, you are assuming Mourinho has a say in all of Real's transfers. A player like Rooney would be a political move more than anything, Perez was responsible for signing Beckham, Owen and Woodgate so clearly likes/sees the marketing prospect of signing English players.
[cite]Posted By: colthe3rd[/cite]Leroy, you are assuming Mourinho has a say in all of Real's transfers. A player like Rooney would be a political move more than anything, Perez was responsible for signing Beckham, Owen and Woodgate so clearly likes/sees the marketing prospect of signing English players.
got a feeling he could do. Mourinho is an unltimatum type manager and would walk out at any time if it isnt done his way, especially on signings.
Sorry but there is no way Wenger would bring him to Arsenal, if he wants to spunk money up the wall on an out of form striker who would have astronomical wages, then he would plump for Torres over Rooney.
Also, I think Rooney's carrer is a car crash waiting to happen, if he doesn't regain form I can see him being dropped by England, and then slowly slipping out of the picture and his career dive bombing from there, possibly even retiring by 30.
Then again he could start again (Man City I think, 99% of players don't give a flying f*ck about club loyalty, look at Gallas!) and push on in new surroundings and stick it to Fergie. I mean where better than City to do that? Frozen out of United, joins City and helps cement there place above United in the pecking order!
Berbatov has looked good this season already, but for the long term, Benzema, Pato, Llorente, Dzeko? All good players, but need to prove they are great before United look at them. The real question is can Owen, Macheda, Hernandez all step up and fill his boots?
This is all about money. Has his agent been spoken to by Man City saying they would pay doulble Utds offer ? Ferguson will be gone in two years and City will no doubt battle it out with Chelsea as the dominant force in English football. Perhaps a combination of the above is behind all this. As for him going to Spain. Can you honestly see the moron settling in London never mind Madrid or Barcelona.
Three options in theory and one in reality. I am not counting Chelsea as even though Abramovich has the money, it is not by a long shot in keeping with his revised plan for breaking-even and stabilising spending. They have not signed a player above £20M since Shevchenko in 2006, and look how that turned out! Since then the likes of Di Maria, Benzema, Mascherano, Eto'o, Ibrahimovic, Villa, Silva, Kaka and of course Ronaldo have all moved in excess of this sum and Chelsea have barely been on the radar.
He will be worse than Karl Pilkington trying to settle in Madrid or Barcelona and as I intimated in a previous thread in my humble opinion I don't think he fits what they want unless he is prepared to be a squad player (yeah right) and in any event both want a 'different option' up front, which at the moment looks like a shoot-out for Fernando Llorente. Moreover, how many cards do you think he'd pick up in Spain?! Even Becks had about 10 Y 1 R on average per season, Rooney would be up there with 20-odd as the worst disciplined player in Liga BBVA.
[cite]Posted By: WestStandCookie[/cite]Just seen Rooney at Sparrows Lane, shaking hands with Murray then heard a whisper that a swap deal with Benson has been agreed*
[cite]Posted By: Elthamaddick[/cite]listening to Jamie Redknapp and Merson on Sky last night they are of the opinion that wherever he's going it's done, dusted and agreed already...
Man City IMO
Can't see his missus wanting to move away from her family and ill sister
i think it's his Mrs who is driving this and i'm sure the club will already be lined up. man city would be so funny. hope it is. see redknapp is going to try and destabilise spurs finances by asking the chairman. the injury suite at spurs should suit Rooney and his dodgy feet / ankles.
Man Yoo can't afford Torres unless they get big money for Rooney (£30m plus) and then all of that money is used for Torres. Part of, if not all the money for Rooney will be used to service the debt, they got away with it when they sold Ronaldo because they got a huge amount, this time will be different.
Unless they clear their debt, Man Yoo spending more than £5 million on a player will be a thing of the past.
One place he would never go is Italy though, the way they really get into the personal lives of the players, and how professional they expect the players to be in their lifestyle etc. wouldn't suit him at all. I think Man City is the only viable option moneywise, plus if I was a manager I wouldn't want him now, as he seems to think he is bigger than the teams he is put in.
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at the moment mate, 100%. Chamakh is a player still finding his feet in the premiership. he's got 3 goals and 3 assists already in the league and has scored in the last 6 champions league games. He's improving and Rooney is getting worse. Whats to say wayne is going to find this return of form?
City have been saying they have a way round the UEFA finance rules such as getting middle eastern companies to offer multi million sponsorships but UEFA have said these will be forbidden under the new rules so it will be interesting to see what they come up with.
The other likely destination is Real, Rooney is a big name, will sell shirts, tax is lower for foreign footballers in Spain so they won't have to offer as much as CIty and they could possibly offer Benzema in a part swap deal.
He does not seem to be mentally or physically up to the challenge at the moment and you'd have to say that putting his future up for grabs is not going to help him re-capture that form one little bit.
Fergie, being the hard bastard that he is, will probably find Wayne a nice little spot on the bench so he can have a good, long think about it.
What's the betting that United sell Rooney and end up getting Torres? Not a bad deal in my book.
Italian clubs don't have the money to pay for him, so they're out
At his age, there's no way he would want to go to the MLS (unless it really is all about the cash with him and nothing else matters)
Realistically, the only teams he could go to are Chelski and Man Shitty. Personally, I think he's crocked. His ankle is hosed, and Ferguson has concocted a story about him wanting to leave to try and generate a bidding war between the two of them in the transfer window. That way he can keep Shrek on the bench with the occasional start, and blame his poor form on the fact he's unsettled. Rooney himself won't give a shit as he stands to make an absolute fortune from a front-loaded new contract, and probably wants out of Old Trafford anyway - since the club is f***ed and going the way of the mickeys in a couple of years.
I would have thought his biggest problem was his alleged habit of paying for sex.
got a feeling he could do. Mourinho is an unltimatum type manager and would walk out at any time if it isnt done his way, especially on signings.
Also, I think Rooney's carrer is a car crash waiting to happen, if he doesn't regain form I can see him being dropped by England, and then slowly slipping out of the picture and his career dive bombing from there, possibly even retiring by 30.
Then again he could start again (Man City I think, 99% of players don't give a flying f*ck about club loyalty, look at Gallas!) and push on in new surroundings and stick it to Fergie. I mean where better than City to do that? Frozen out of United, joins City and helps cement there place above United in the pecking order!
Luke Varney
Man City IMO
Can't see his missus wanting to move away from her family and ill sister
He will be worse than Karl Pilkington trying to settle in Madrid or Barcelona and as I intimated in a previous thread in my humble opinion I don't think he fits what they want unless he is prepared to be a squad player (yeah right) and in any event both want a 'different option' up front, which at the moment looks like a shoot-out for Fernando Llorente. Moreover, how many cards do you think he'd pick up in Spain?! Even Becks had about 10 Y 1 R on average per season, Rooney would be up there with 20-odd as the worst disciplined player in Liga BBVA.
IF he leaves, it will only be for Man City
*Alledgedly for the CL lawyers
Another injured player! Why do we do it?
i think it's his Mrs who is driving this and i'm sure the club will already be lined up. man city would be so funny. hope it is. see redknapp is going to try and destabilise spurs finances by asking the chairman. the injury suite at spurs should suit Rooney and his dodgy feet / ankles.
She won't have to if she divorces him. Maybe that's why he wants a bumper new pay deal so he can afford to pay her.
It's all been sewn up long ago and it's just a case of the various parties trying to spin it their way between now and Jan.
Unless they clear their debt, Man Yoo spending more than £5 million on a player will be a thing of the past.
Although Ajax or Sparta Prague might be worth a shout.
Hamburg would be a solid option as well
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That made me laugh out loud!