Can't see Palace building on that sight without an Athletics track somewhere in the mix. Would imagine financial implications may mean they want to sell Selhurst to property developers or one of the big supermarket chains and take the profits with them to the Athletics stadium as it is. Never really seen the need for having so many stadiums (apart from the Valley) in such proximity of each other so it's wouldn't be a bad move.
I did wonder whether the Nigels might move to the Athletics Stadium as part of the Spurs bid as another sweetener for their scheme as opposed to West Ham's
Many Crystal Palace supporters have for years talked of a revamped ground at the Athletics stadium. The park is a complicated issue, I believe it is owned by Bromley council, but that may not be the case, and ownership/planning may be complicated, especially as croydon council have behaved in a sympathetic manner before with regard to crystal Palace at Selhurst.
There is also the complicated matter of who actually owns Selhurst, and this issue may well be behind the current thinking. There is hardly a case for saying that Selhurst park as it is has even a medium term future, and changes are needed...BUT, changes cost a lot of money (look at Falmer), and take a lot of time...have Palace got the time and the money?
If Crystal Palace move nearer to central london as suggested, then it may impact on the future support of Millwall, and us.
[cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]National Sport centre at CP park, puts a big problem in the way of Spurs moving to Startford
Is that what is being suggested.
Out of Croydon then to a stadium owned by Bromley. It may be is a response to the Spuds wanting to take over the Olympic Stadium and revamp the NSC. Interesting.
The park is indeed owned by Bromley Council, and some of the ruins/gardens are listed. That might have an effect on what building/development can be done on the site. The access road for example isn't good enough, and the bridge which runs from the sports centre to the lower park is listed. The stadium at the moment holds 16000, but only has 3 sides, there would need to come to an arrangement with the company which runs the site which at the moment is Greenwich Leisure, as they would lose an astroturf pitch, and all the offices housed in the grandstand at least.
Very active local residents have blocked any attempt to re-develop the site of the old Crystal Palace at the top of the park so would be major opposition to football there.
Seems odd as they have finally got ownership of SP back with the club and with the housing market depressed its not worth much.
Not really much closer to central london but very good transport links via train, very poor by road.
Interesting. The sports centre's owned by the London Development Agency - so it's in the gift of the mayoralty. Which will also have a big say in who gets the Olympic Stadium and will do most of the post-2012 decision-making.
I'm sure I remember hearing somewhere that Bromley Council wasn't keen on gaining a football ground on its territory. As Henry says, I don't think the locals around that way will be too keen.
And as Seth says, any move closer to central London will be bad for us (and Millwall).
The issue with the ownership of SP was resolved when CPFC 2010 took over.
Another factor that maybe worth considering, is that the orange twat that used go round pissing off everyone that we actually needed to work with is now no longer involved with CPFC....that will help any negotiations.
The board that makes up CPFC 2010, has someone within it someone who has very positive relationship with Bromley Council. This may of course be irrelevant.
wouldn't be the first club to use a track and field stadium. poor old rotherham are using don valley stadium, due to being locked out of millmoor. their ground might have been a dump, but it was their dump. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/3052037855_f84c5cf511.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/manc72/3052037855/&usg=__MCNbim21-Eudj9us5koTnXqf97Y=&h=375&w=500&sz=136&hl=en&start=5&zoom=1&tbnid=iJtAcLbsxwy4CM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=130&ei=EKM0Td_TGsKL4QbPzKGcCg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drotherham%2Bunited%2Bdon%2Bvalley%2Bstadium%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dvss%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1
the ground as it was when they left! http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.freewebs.com/tims92/Rotherham/Millmoor%252011.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.freewebs.com/tims92/og074rotherhamunitedmillmoor.htm&usg=__ajCm6QO12yIA_Z3qrC6vaa2CYd4=&h=512&w=640&sz=71&hl=en&start=8&zoom=1&tbnid=yEU3Q77CkC_Q6M:&tbnh=110&tbnw=137&ei=3KM0TYTKKobNhAfWgqyUCw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drotherham%2Bunited%2Btivoli%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dvss%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1
think Son of selhurst needs to change name to Save our selhurst! i have no love for palace but respect their fans wanting to remain at their 'proper' ground.
[cite]Posted By: son of selhurst[/cite]The issue with the ownership of SP was resolved when CPFC 2010 took over.
Another factor that maybe worth considering, is that the orange twat that used go round pissing off everyone that we actually needed to work with is now no longer involved with CPFC....that will help any negotiations.
The board that makes up CPFC 2010, has someone within it someone who has very positive relationship with Bromley Council. This may of course be irrelevant.
SOS is Selhurst Park in a poor state of repair as was often mentioned during the Admin saga? There has been talk of a drainage problem under The Holmesdale Stand and also a fire safety issue in the main stand.
You say the issue of ownership of SP was resolved when CPFC 2010 took over. Who owns the lease now then?
Correct me if I'm wrong, the lease was held by Rock Investments, which was Paul Kemsley's company which went up bust didnt it? Paul Kemsley used to be on the Spurs board and is best buddies with Daniel Levy.
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There is also the complicated matter of who actually owns Selhurst, and this issue may well be behind the current thinking. There is hardly a case for saying that Selhurst park as it is has even a medium term future, and changes are needed...BUT, changes cost a lot of money (look at Falmer), and take a lot of time...have Palace got the time and the money?
If Crystal Palace move nearer to central london as suggested, then it may impact on the future support of Millwall, and us.
You're doing yourself down mate.
Is that what is being suggested.
Out of Croydon then to a stadium owned by Bromley. It may be is a response to the Spuds wanting to take over the Olympic Stadium and revamp the NSC. Interesting.
Seems odd as they have finally got ownership of SP back with the club and with the housing market depressed its not worth much.
Not really much closer to central london but very good transport links via train, very poor by road.
I'm sure I remember hearing somewhere that Bromley Council wasn't keen on gaining a football ground on its territory. As Henry says, I don't think the locals around that way will be too keen.
And as Seth says, any move closer to central London will be bad for us (and Millwall).
Another factor that maybe worth considering, is that the orange twat that used go round pissing off everyone that we actually needed to work with is now no longer involved with CPFC....that will help any negotiations.
The board that makes up CPFC 2010, has someone within it someone who has very positive relationship with Bromley Council. This may of course be irrelevant.
Just like Crystal Palace.
Just like Crystal Palace.[/quote]
Clearly not to you though ;-)
Cut it out. SOS is just trying to give us some info.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/3052037855_f84c5cf511.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.flickr.com/photos/manc72/3052037855/&usg=__MCNbim21-Eudj9us5koTnXqf97Y=&h=375&w=500&sz=136&hl=en&start=5&zoom=1&tbnid=iJtAcLbsxwy4CM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=130&ei=EKM0Td_TGsKL4QbPzKGcCg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drotherham%2Bunited%2Bdon%2Bvalley%2Bstadium%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dvss%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.freewebs.com/tims92/Rotherham/Millmoor%252011.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.freewebs.com/tims92/og074rotherhamunitedmillmoor.htm&usg=__ajCm6QO12yIA_Z3qrC6vaa2CYd4=&h=512&w=640&sz=71&hl=en&start=8&zoom=1&tbnid=yEU3Q77CkC_Q6M:&tbnh=110&tbnw=137&ei=3KM0TYTKKobNhAfWgqyUCw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drotherham%2Bunited%2Btivoli%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dvss%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1
think Son of selhurst needs to change name to Save our selhurst! i have no love for palace but respect their fans wanting to remain at their 'proper' ground.
SOS is Selhurst Park in a poor state of repair as was often mentioned during the Admin saga? There has been talk of a drainage problem under The Holmesdale Stand and also a fire safety issue in the main stand.
You say the issue of ownership of SP was resolved when CPFC 2010 took over. Who owns the lease now then?
Correct me if I'm wrong, the lease was held by Rock Investments, which was Paul Kemsley's company which went up bust didnt it? Paul Kemsley used to be on the Spurs board and is best buddies with Daniel Levy.