Can't believe no one spotted the handball for the Spanish goal I was screaming at the tv, thought Spain were very goonershite like nice to watch very little end product, we got lucky with the goal looked offside to me, we need to play at a higher tempo but we did well enough not to lose . Fair result imo,
Agree with manciene I thought he was awful throughout, and stirring seemed one lazy so and so I thought he looked ordinary tonight yet every other time I have seen him he seemed top draw
Can't believe no one spotted the handball for the Spanish goal I was screaming at the tv, thought Spain were very goonershite like nice to watch very little end product, we got lucky with the goal looked offside to me, we need to play at a higher tempo but we did well enough not to lose . Fair result imo,
Agree with manciene I thought he was awful throughout, and sturridge seemed one lazy so and so I thought he looked ordinary tonight yet every other time I have seen him he seemed top draw
We were lucky ............. and did you see when we scored Pearce just sat there- not the same Pearce of old -reckon that period with Mclaren and now with Capellllloooo has dampened his enthuasism.
We were totally outclassed by a quality Spanish outfit............probably around a decade behind them in terms of ability to play in tight situations.
We wasn't outclassed , Spain had plenty possession and it was pleasing on the eye but it was to be expected as they do that at all levels, this meant England had to sit back close space and be patient in our play, we don't as a nation use the ball as well . To me that would be a fair point to make, but smalling was imense at the back and made 2 good tackles in the box in the last 20 but the Spanish were not peppering our goal with shots in fact quite the opposite.
It's all well and good this 10yd passing in triangles but you need a finished product at the end, both goals should've been disallowed and a draw was a fair result.
Spain were excellent in possession but didn't transform their possession into clear cut chances. I thought the pace we had up front always gave us a chance as their defence was never comfortable. Walker looked very impressive and with Wilshire I think we would have won as the midfield we had didn't have the creativity to utilise our strengths. Having said that - yes their first was a hand ball and not a good example for under 21s to be doing that sort of thing. Why is it acceptable for players to cheat so visbly and get away with it when FIFA porports to promote fair play? I think the spaniard should be sent home in disgrace but instead he will be patted on the back and congratulated- very sad.
I take your point re posession and penetration. Smalling also had a terrific season at United when given the chance. I'd still say that Spain looked a much, much better outfit, especially in terms of looking at this as a 'development' tournament
We wasn't outclassed , Spain had plenty possession and it was pleasing on the eye but it was to be expected as they do that at all levels, this meant England had to sit back close space and be patient in our play, we don't as a nation use the ball as well . To me that would be a fair point to make, but smalling was imense at the back and made 2 good tackles in the box in the last 20 but the Spanish were not peppering our goal with shots in fact quite the opposite. It's all well and good this 10yd passing in triangles but you need a finished product at the end, both goals should've been disallowed and a draw was a fair result.
This.
I'd also add Rodwell should start ahead of Mancienne. walker played very well as did Jones and Smalling. Wellbeck's first touch was poor throughiout but he did enought to get a goal. Promising start. Fed up with this media love in for Spain at the moment regardless of how well their teams play.
They definitely have weaknesses at under 21 level - we cant play the way they do but we were a creative player short of really using our pace to hurt them. Agree Mancienne wasn't the right player for that match - Shelvey not being inthe team surprised me a bit too I must admit.
well ive watched over 100 mins of henderson now and its making his price tag look embarrasing. keeps trying that killer cross field ball and not once has it been succesful.
same problem running through the whole of the english game and has never been much different but is certainly as bad as ever - no quality ball players in midfield - how we started the tournament with mancienne, who i thought was a defender, in midfield, just about sums it up. 2 centre halfs look decent as does Sturridge. The rest - the usual collection of athletes i guess.
same problem running through the whole of the english game and has never been much different but is certainly as bad as ever - no quality ball players in midfield - how we started the tournament with mancienne, who i thought was a defender, in midfield, just about sums it up. 2 centre halfs look decent as does Sturridge. The rest - the usual collection of athletes i guess.
I wonder if better coaching might help? Must be worth a try surely?
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Walker looked good, was our main threat going forward.
Enjoyed the game.
Scott Sinclair came on as well-come a long way since being a "Charltonised loan".
Agree with manciene I thought he was awful throughout, and stirring seemed one lazy so and so I thought he looked ordinary tonight yet every other time I have seen him he seemed top draw
We were lucky ............. and did you see when we scored Pearce just sat there- not the same Pearce of old -reckon that period with Mclaren and now with Capellllloooo has dampened his enthuasism.
We can not play worse ?????
It's all well and good this 10yd passing in triangles but you need a finished product at the end, both goals should've been disallowed and a draw was a fair result.
Spain are definitely easier on the eye - I wont argue that.
This.
I'd also add Rodwell should start ahead of Mancienne. walker played very well as did Jones and Smalling. Wellbeck's first touch was poor throughiout but he did enought to get a goal. Promising start. Fed up with this media love in for Spain at the moment regardless of how well their teams play.
I thought their defence was very poor.
we look poor tonight so far.
Yawn!
Our midfielders have an uncanny ability to NOT find space.
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Must be worth a try surely?
bad at the top and it goes all the way thru ...Brooking -Cappello -Pearce -Rather have Curbishley and Hoddle and Taylor