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Greenwich asks for congestion charge

AFKABartram
AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
edited February 2007 in Other Football and Sports
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6337499.stm
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  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    Traffic is a "nightmare" around the centre of Greenwich - and Blackheath.
    As a local resident I would be all in favour of a local congestion charge if that cut down on the traffic.
  • pete_tong1
    pete_tong1 Posts: 2,653
    I want everyone on 1 day to abandon the car or van and use public transport and see how the country gets on. Only the rich will be able to drive in the future which is wrong.
  • SE10Addick
    SE10Addick Posts: 2,964
    build a great big tunnel from New Cross/Deptford to the Blackwall tunnel and the A102, problem sorted!!
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    All for it
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    course you are, you can't drive !! :-)
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    [cite]Posted By: pete_tong1[/cite]I want everyone on 1 day to abandon the car or van and use public transport and see how the country gets on. Only the rich will be able to drive in the future which is wrong.

    I'm not sure.

    i pay £180 a month for my train ticket from dartford and past the initial outlay of buying a car (which i don't currently own) i think i would prefer to own a car.

    now if only i could find that dream job near to me...
  • Red Ken's transport policy and fare increases are surely responsible for the continued congestion. Apparently, we have the most expensive public transport system in the world - this would seem to be sending the wrong signal to the proleteriat. Seems to me that if you have to pay a congestion charge, it may well make public transport cheaper, but then TFL can hike the fares up some more...so everyone ends up paying more and more and more for the same or worse level of service.

    Worst thing is that the transport system falls apart after 11pm, with the exception of a few night buses...
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    I cycle, and Greenwich is a nightmare, it's a world heritage area and it's treated like a by pass, 2 or 3 quid nowt for most people, but hopefully it'll put people off.

    Congestion charge, and make the centre of Greenwich a shared space area, and it'll be so much better
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    [cite]Posted By: orpingtonaddick[/cite]Red Ken's transport policy and fare increases are surely responsible for the continued congestion. Apparently, we have the most expensive public transport system in the world - this would seem to be sending the wrong signal to the proleteriat. Seems to me that if you have to pay a congestion charge, it may well make public transport cheaper, but then TFL can hike the fares up some more...so everyone ends up paying more and more and more for the same or worse level of service.

    Worst thing is that the transport system falls apart after 11pm, with the exception of a few night buses...

    Fares are still cheap, just get an Oyster card
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    edited February 2007
    easy to say that but what about people in travel in from Dartford, Gravesend etc. There are plenty of those guys
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  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    my train season ticket went up 11% this year.

    Its wrong
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    Well those areas are controlled by the Mayor, so not his fault
  • Got one thanks
  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    [cite]Posted By: AFKA Bartram[/cite]my train season ticket went up 11% this year.

    Its wrong
    But the journey takes 11% longer so you still get value for money!
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    [cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]Well those areas are controlled by the Mayor, so not his fault

    ok, hear this. i went to lee station last week to renew my travelcard(with the 8.5% fare increase) it was 12.30pm on a sunday afternoon and the station was shut. so i had to meet my friend on the dlr at elverson road. so i got on a bus to lewisham. this cost me £2 cash. lewisham station was in fact closed although the ticket office open. i bought my monthly travel card, and carried on my journey.

    can i get a refund for the £2 cash fair that i unneccessarily had to pay because the office was shut and the "brand new spanking wipe your arse" machines that they've installed in the stations don't do montly travelcards.

    £2 for a cash fare is ridiculous on a bus.

    only the rich people will be able to use public transport or use a car soon.
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    and i can't use an oyster card, despite living in zone 3.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    [cite]Posted By: suzisausage[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]Well those areas are controlled by the Mayor, so not his fault

    ok, hear this. i went to lee station last week to renew my travelcard(with the 8.5% fare increase) it was 12.30pm on a sunday afternoon and the station was shut. so i had to meet my friend on the dlr at elverson road. so i got on a bus to lewisham. this cost me £2 cash. lewisham station was in fact closed although the ticket office open. i bought my monthly travel card, and carried on my journey.

    can i get a refund for the £2 cash fair that i unneccessarily had to pay because the office was shut and the "brand new spanking wipe your arse" machines that they've installed in the stations don't do montly travelcards.

    £2 for a cash fare is ridiculous on a bus.

    only the rich people will be able to use public transport or use a car soon.

    Ask Southeastern why they are rubbish, and see if they'll refund you?

    As for cash on the buses, it's getting less and less, the reason why it's half price with Oyster is to get buses cashless, £1 on the plastic ain't too bad.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    and you can have a travelcard on Oyster which you can use at overground stations, used to go through the barriers at New Eltham with one all the time.
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    it is when if i'd have bought my travelcard it would have essentially been free.

    i have written to them, will let you know how i get on.

    also these big bendy buses, reckon he knows that they're widely known as the "free buses" in london?

    i'm yet to see an inspector on one and people get on the back and travel for free. thats the reasons for the fare's going up. i'd be interested to find out how many people get on and how many people beep in.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    Fare on the Underground on Oyster are the same as they were 7 years ago, not sure about the buses, cause it went to one zone for the whole of London, and it balanced it out in the same time.

    Pay cash and you get hit
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  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    [cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]and you can have a travelcard on Oyster which you can use at overground stations, used to go through the barriers at New Eltham with one all the time.

    not from lee. it says you can't use oyster, and there is no yellow swipey thing.
  • Ledge
    Ledge Posts: 7,179
    inspectors on the bendy buses - you will NEVER see one in rush hour.

    Seen loads of times after 10am.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    Hmmm, all the stations say no pre pay, but if you've got a travelcard, you've got a travelcard, either on Oyster or paper.
  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    buy Oyster say you HAVE TO swipe your card at the start and end of each journey - if you cannot do that then it is daft having an Oyster card
  • Doesn't do much for the tourist (who is economically very important for this country) - they have little choice in the matter - CASH (no address, no Oyster Card). A lot of overseas people I meet through business think the system is a rip-off, pure and simple.

    Anyway, let's wait for the snow to test the efficiency and usefulness of our public transport system...
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    [cite]Posted By: Salad Spinner[/cite]buy Oyster say you HAVE TO swipe your card at the start and end of each journey - if you cannot do that then it is daft having an Oyster card

    on the tube and DLR only
  • F-Blocker
    F-Blocker Posts: 3,409
    [cite]Posted By: Salad Spinner[/cite]buy Oyster say you HAVE TO swipe your card at the start and end of each journey - if you cannot do that then it is daft having an Oyster card

    That's only when using pre-pay on the Tube/DLR so it knows how much to subtract from your card.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    [cite]Posted By: orpingtonaddick[/cite]Doesn't do much for the tourist (who is economically very important for this country) - they have little choice in the matter - CASH (no address, no Oyster Card). A lot of overseas people I meet through business think the system is a rip-off, pure and simple.

    Anyway, let's wait for the snow to test the efficiency and usefulness of our public transport system...

    You don't have to give an address anymore to get a Oyster card, you can get fron vending machines at Victoria now
  • F-Blocker
    F-Blocker Posts: 3,409
    [cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: orpingtonaddick[/cite]Doesn't do much for the tourist (who is economically very important for this country) - they have little choice in the matter - CASH (no address, no Oyster Card). A lot of overseas people I meet through business think the system is a rip-off, pure and simple.

    Anyway, let's wait for the snow to test the efficiency and usefulness of our public transport system...

    You don't have to give an address anymore to get a Oyster card, you can get fron vending machines at Victoria now

    You can also get Oyster IN ADVANCE of your trip to London via the Visit Britain/Visit London websites.
  • Ketman
    Ketman Posts: 6,796
    [cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]All for it


    I take it you do not own a car then ? :-)