Only read/quote half my posts if you want so it looks like it was meant in a different way.
I know what I meant and stand by the view if that you can't fault someone for having views aslong as they're not acted on in a waylike he did. Thats just sick and Can be faulted!
So basically you are saying you can't fault someone for having a view. Everyone has a view so does that mean no one can be faulted?
Since his views include the belief that it is OK to plant bombs in city centres and gun down innocent unarmed adults and kids then yes you can very much fault him on his views.
Can't fault someone for their views on immigration etc HOWEVER you CAN fault him for the way he acted on them. You know what I meant hence only quoting half the sentence.
thats how the republican party works here!! an example " oooh i could kill for an icecream" reported as, florida addick said "he could kill" when asked why he would kill he replied "i was taken out of context" but you said you would kill, actually no, i said i "could" kill, so you could kill then? for an ice cream yes!! ladies and gentleman Florida Addick would KILL you for an ice cream, do NOT vote for him.
How can he possibly be sane? It is just sad he is getting attention -I'm sure the pathetic **** is enjoying that. He just needs to be looked up for life in an empty cell. Maybe one day he we gain some insight as to what he has done.
Before he done all this, He knew that he would either be killed or spend the rest of his life behind bars but sacrificed that for what he believes to be the 'good of his country's future'. IMHO You can't fault him for his views,
"You can't fault him for his views"
He's entitled to an opinion - but when that opinion is expressed in the murder of 77 mostly young kids (and all of them were unarmed) then it crosses a line. Cowardice is the least of his sins unless attacking unarmed young adults is ok?
Ffs, That is exactly what I've just tried to say!!! Everyone's got opinions and views which you can't fault but acting on them in that manner is just sick!!!
What you can't grasp is that you said "you can't fault him for his views" which just happen to include mass murder, there is nothing ok in that.
Still I'm sure Timothy McVeigh was also just exercising a right to free speech as well.
I'm led to believe that he had regular contact with the EDL as well...
He should lose all liberty and not have his day in court ...can not imagine the agony the parents are going through while this **** tells all he was justified....
there is probably a good deal of evidence that the guy is paranoid/ dullisional (e.g. doesn't he claim some wild and wonderful stuff about his network, etc) and in which case sectionable I would suggest
I disagree with the Muslims Against Crusades people who demonstrate on Remembrance day etc. I find their views disgusting and I criticise them.
Now, if people are saying you cannot do anything about thinking something so you cannot do anything about it then that's your viewpoint but I disagree.
I'd want to listen to what the professional shrinks say plenty of people have "bad" views but still retain the abililty to understand what they are doing and to account for their actions - the truly "mad" don't have that control. I'd want to know how Brevik behaved in the rest of his life before forming the view that he is mad.
I watched the documentary the other night about him - proper scary stuff. He's bonkers. He planned this all too well to be insane - that's just a part of the whole show.
I don't think they have Corporate Punishment over there but there is surely a case for it in this instance - why should the people of Norway pay for this guy to live a pretty comfortable life for the next 50 or 60 years when he is absolutely 100% nailed on to be guilty
Having said that apparently 25% of the population in eastern Oslo is immigrants so it's no wonder there is a simmering tension.
Totally nuts and a danger to society. Norwegians by large are some of the most passive people I have met, which makes this all the more shocking. He has stated that he doesn't want to serve his time in a mental institute. maybe that should be his punishment?
Gutting opened this thread thinking it might be about a new player we might be signing.
i don't watch the news and shamefully i thought that as well (although you may be joking)
norway does so much peacekeeping work around the world and they clearly aren't an insular society, who feel they have the right to keep themselves to themselves, just cos they were fortunate to have been born in a well to do country
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He agrees with a mass murderer. Not his actions though just his views so that's OK.
If what you are trying to say is you cannot do anything about thinking something, but can on their actions or intentions, then I agree.
You can though fault their thought process if you believe their thought process is wrong.
My views are with Gonnerhater, the scum should be fairly trialled but not given an ounce of publicity / platform.
whilst it could have been worded better thats not how i read his post.
thats how the republican party works here!! an example " oooh i could kill for an icecream" reported as, florida addick said "he could kill" when asked why he would kill he replied "i was taken out of context" but you said you would kill, actually no, i said i "could" kill, so you could kill then? for an ice cream yes!! ladies and gentleman Florida Addick would KILL you for an ice cream, do NOT vote for him.
anyway, Better get me coat.
What you can't grasp is that you said "you can't fault him for his views" which just happen to include mass murder, there is nothing ok in that.
Still I'm sure Timothy McVeigh was also just exercising a right to free speech as well.
I'm led to believe that he had regular contact with the EDL as well...
This should be total Media black out -he is Vile
None of this trial should have been given any air time.
I think you can fault people for their views.
I disagree with the Muslims Against Crusades people who demonstrate on Remembrance day etc. I find their views disgusting and I criticise them.
Now, if people are saying you cannot do anything about thinking something so you cannot do anything about it then that's your viewpoint but I disagree.
I don't think they have Corporate Punishment over there but there is surely a case for it in this instance - why should the people of Norway pay for this guy to live a pretty comfortable life for the next 50 or 60 years when he is absolutely 100% nailed on to be guilty
Having said that apparently 25% of the population in eastern Oslo is immigrants so it's no wonder there is a simmering tension.
Maybe it is insane to get jurors to swear on a book referring to unproven Gods.
norway does so much peacekeeping work around the world and they clearly aren't an insular society, who feel they have the right to keep themselves to themselves, just cos they were fortunate to have been born in a well to do country