UPDATE - Czech republic have been able to bring at least two trumpets and a drummer in. yet we because we are English cant. is it because we will show them up with our superior music skills or is it because they feel we might use a trombone to protect ourselves from the hordes of angry right wing racist Ukrainians who are well up for a scrap, to the point that they have been training for months to get at our beer belly, bacon butty English warrior like fans. I think its just cos they dont like us.
I like hearing bands at games - adds to the atmosphere.
Many Charlton fans might agree, but to other clubs the thought of having a 'band' at football matches to improve the atmosphere is so cringing, and just adds to the happy clappy, modern-day fan image.
It ruins the natural atmosphere of a football match, and how anyone can enjoy spending money and travelling long distances with a massive drum or trumpet, only to repeat the same songs they've played at every game over the past years, is in my opinion unbelievable. They need their nut tested.
I like hearing bands at games - adds to the atmosphere.
Many Charlton fans might agree, but to other clubs the thought of having a 'band' at football matches to improve the atmosphere is so cringing, and just adds to the happy clappy, modern-day fan image.
It ruins the natural atmosphere of a football match, and how anyone can enjoy spending money and travelling long distances with a massive drum or trumpet, only to repeat the same songs they've played at every game over the past years, is in my opinion unbelievable. They need their nut tested.
They might, but I seem to be in the minority on this forum.
I like hearing bands at games - adds to the atmosphere.
Many Charlton fans might agree, but to other clubs the thought of having a 'band' at football matches to improve the atmosphere is so cringing, and just adds to the happy clappy, modern-day fan image.
It ruins the natural atmosphere of a football match, and how anyone can enjoy spending money and travelling long distances with a massive drum or trumpet, only to repeat the same songs they've played at every game over the past years, is in my opinion unbelievable. They need their nut tested.
They might, but I seem to be in the minority on this forum.
weren't they a copy (poor copy at that) of the "jazz" band of the mid '90s? That bloody great escape tune and then God save the Queen played 6 times per half every game for the last15 years. I didnt miss them at the France game, nice to have a bit of quiet time.
weren't they a copy (poor copy at that) of the Dutch "jazz" band of the mid '90s? That bloody great escape tune and then God save the Queen played 6 times per half every game for the last15 years. I didnt miss them at the France game, nice to have a bit of quiet time.
The day me and my mates can have a game of keepy uppy during a performance of the Royal Philharmonic is the day I will welcome the Pukka Pies England Fans Band to an england football match.
They just came up with an idea that would guarantee them tickets to the games.
So many of you are saying that 'you shouldn't need a drummer' etc. Truth is, at some grounds like The Valley, you do!
Like it or not, they get the noise going, which creates a bigger atmosphere, which is surely a good thing.
At the end of the day, the England band are a tradition that has been going for a matter of decades now and they are as pure fans of their country as anyone. It gives our support a good identity against opponents I'm sure.
I remember the Wednesday band at The Valley back in the Premiership and thought they were great personally.
Disagree Tom. Your definition of fun and mine are probably different as I dont enjoy it...but i am a miserable git generally so that could be why ;-)
The atmosphere at the Valley was arguably better before the drummer.
Not a personal dig at the Charlton or England bands but just in general I think an authentic atmosphere that derives of itself is preferrable than the "Drum Drum CAFC CAFC" stuff which is often a bit awkward and forced.
Works really well abroad with the Ultras with their megaphones etc but just a bit weird when us Anglos adopt it.
I disagree too. If the drummer was not there, I think the atmosphere would improve rather than everyone waiting to be led into a song they would just get on with it.
So many of you are saying that 'you shouldn't need a drummer' etc. Truth is, at some grounds like The Valley, you do!
Like it or not, they get the noise going, which creates a bigger atmosphere, which is surely a good thing.
At the end of the day, the England band are a tradition that has been going for a matter of decades now and they are as pure fans of their country as anyone. It gives our support a good identity against opponents I'm sure.
I remember the Wednesday band at The Valley back in the Premiership and thought they were great personally.
It's called "having fun".
Just out of interest Tom. When was your first visit to a football ground?
I used to hate it, really really hate it, in the mid nineties at the Valley when we'd be losing at home and that annoying band would pipe up with the Muppet Show theme tune. Don't know why but that used to really wind me up. When we were winning it was still annoying too...
So I agree... ban the bands!
(although I don't mind the drummer - no different to people hitting their seats or the back of the stand for rhythm but with less damage to property... brass instruments can go where the sun don't shine though!)
So many of you are saying that 'you shouldn't need a drummer' etc. Truth is, at some grounds like The Valley, you do!
Like it or not, they get the noise going, which creates a bigger atmosphere, which is surely a good thing.
At the end of the day, the England band are a tradition that has been going for a matter of decades now and they are as pure fans of their country as anyone. It gives our support a good identity against opponents I'm sure.
I remember the Wednesday band at The Valley back in the Premiership and thought they were great personally.
It's called "having fun".
Just out of interest Tom. When was your first visit to a football ground?
a. Pre 1980's b. Pre 1990's c. Pre 2000's
1992 when we returned to The Valley.
So people are saying that the atmosphere would be better without the drummer? Why - because people will sing more? Sorry, but I don't understand how that works.
Because there is a drummer in the stands, should that stop people from singing? No, not at all.
If we didn't have a drummer, we would sing less (therefore create less atmosphere) than we do currently.
Anyone who went to some of the away games this year where we had 'Chrissie Powell's red army" going on for about ten minutes at a time will know how great that is! It's not forced. If it was, people wouldn't sing along to it!
We definately need a thread for The Miserables but I got in trouble last time I started one.
Anyone else fancy setting one up - how about a Miserable sets it up. That way all The Positives don't have to wonder how miserable The Miserables' lives really are.
I think that there's a difference between club football and international football. Part of the enjoyment of these tournaments is seeing the supporters wearing outlandish outfits and playing different music whether that be the Brazilian samba music or the Dutch / English brass bands.
In club football I'd rather go without. I think the drummer at Charlton can be good but all too often 'we make it all so rubbishy.'
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That goes for Charlton as well.
really enjoy listening to that. him and the whistle from the Ireland game could really get the crowd going.
Czech republic have been able to bring at least two trumpets and a drummer in. yet we because we are English cant.
is it because we will show them up with our superior music skills or is it because they feel we might use a trombone to protect ourselves from the hordes of angry right wing racist Ukrainians who are well up for a scrap, to the point that they have been training for months to get at our beer belly, bacon butty English warrior like fans. I think its just cos they dont like us.
It ruins the natural atmosphere of a football match, and how anyone can enjoy spending money and travelling long distances with a massive drum or trumpet, only to repeat the same songs they've played at every game over the past years, is in my opinion unbelievable.
They need their nut tested.
All covers, no original material
That bloody great escape tune and then God save the Queen played 6 times per half every game for the last15 years.
I didnt miss them at the France game, nice to have a bit of quiet time.
They just came up with an idea that would guarantee them tickets to the games.
Like it or not, they get the noise going, which creates a bigger atmosphere, which is surely a good thing.
At the end of the day, the England band are a tradition that has been going for a matter of decades now and they are as pure fans of their country as anyone. It gives our support a good identity against opponents I'm sure.
I remember the Wednesday band at The Valley back in the Premiership and thought they were great personally.
It's called "having fun".
The atmosphere at the Valley was arguably better before the drummer.
Not a personal dig at the Charlton or England bands but just in general I think an authentic atmosphere that derives of itself is preferrable than the "Drum Drum CAFC CAFC" stuff which is often a bit awkward and forced.
Works really well abroad with the Ultras with their megaphones etc but just a bit weird when us Anglos adopt it.
If the drummer was not there, I think the atmosphere would improve rather than everyone waiting to be led into a song they would just get on with it.
a. Pre 1980's
b. Pre 1990's
c. Pre 2000's
So I agree... ban the bands!
(although I don't mind the drummer - no different to people hitting their seats or the back of the stand for rhythm but with less damage to property... brass instruments can go where the sun don't shine though!)
So people are saying that the atmosphere would be better without the drummer? Why - because people will sing more? Sorry, but I don't understand how that works.
Because there is a drummer in the stands, should that stop people from singing? No, not at all.
If we didn't have a drummer, we would sing less (therefore create less atmosphere) than we do currently.
Anyone who went to some of the away games this year where we had 'Chrissie Powell's red army" going on for about ten minutes at a time will know how great that is! It's not forced. If it was, people wouldn't sing along to it!
Anyone else fancy setting one up - how about a Miserable sets it up. That way all The Positives don't have to wonder how miserable The Miserables' lives really are.
In club football I'd rather go without. I think the drummer at Charlton can be good but all too often 'we make it all so rubbishy.'