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Tracey Emin's exhibition at Turner Contemporary Margate

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    Oggy Red said:

    BDL said:

    Let's face it all art is bollocks really ;-)

    Phillistine !!

    You'll be saying next all music and all literature is bollocks too!

    ;o)

    95% of everything is rubbish.

    It's the other 5% that make it worthwhile
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    Hex said:

    barstool said:

    Hex said:

    barstool said:

    sports fans generally do not make good art critics so I can understand some of the interesting opinions and comments. Some people have a greater passion for art others prefer the passion of watching sport, both can be emotional but for different reasons. I am sure an artist could say that why do you routinely watch the same thing at the same stadia, same songs etc. The beauty that's watched at The Valley at times has definitely been in the eyes of the beholder so as humans naturally opinion will always be divided. That's what a sports fan an artist will secretly always want.

    I'm in the 'eye of the beholder' camp which To me means that trying to explain art is pretentious. So, with that in mind and with the Olympics and Paralympics in progress and the success of the Lottery funding, is now a good time to make the percentage that goes to sport or the arts (currently 20% each) a decision you can make when you hand over your £1 ? ie this week I'd like my 40p to support sport. BTW I'm not saying its practical to do it this way!
    The Tate which has become the most visited Museum in the world and one of the biggest tourist attractions in London needs the Arts Council funding via the Lottery to survive and remain a free entry space. If you give people a choice then it may impact on these type of sites and we will lose these valuable culture establishments that attract tourists to the UK.
    Possibly, but then by inference, are you saying that it wouldn't be a big attraction if there was an entrance fee ? Having been there a few years back I found that there were a few exhibits that I liked (see above) but most of the time (as with most people there ?) I just shook my head in disbelief.
    It would deter many locals, children and tourists. It would also spoil a cultural free space of London. The buildings around the Tate have improved and the whole area has regenerated so thats good for London and the taxpayer
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    Meanwhile, back in Tracey land we visited the exhibition today. Contrary to all my pre-conceptions, I found the exhibition to be profoundly moving and thought provoking. I opted for the audio guide (£2) and found that this is probably an essential bit of kit. No one piece can be taken out and examined on its own. The whole exhibition is a mix of words, drawing, painting, tapestry, embroidery, sculptures and neon writing which together explore the main themes. As her father was dying, Tracey felt she was being surrounded and weighed down, rather as if she were lying in the sea. She explores themes such as sensuality and eroticism, contrasting her own views on what is eroticism and what is pornography juxtaposing her works with some sketches of Turner and Rodin (also included in the exhibition).
    She is a childless woman and had obviously faced some troubled times. As she observed the changes to her body caused by ageing, she wanted to explore how the process of ageing had changed her understanding of the word love, and what do we understand by the word 'love' anyway? It is an intensely personal exhibition but it does ask universal questions.
    I did need the audio guide to help me understand what was going on but it added a whole new dimension to what I was looking at.
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    Oggy Red said:

    BDL said:

    Let's face it all art is bollocks really ;-)

    You'll be saying next all music and all literature is bollocks too!

    ;o)

    95% of everything is rubbish.

    It's the other 5% that make it worthwhile
    If you apply the Pareto principle, only 80% of everything is rubbish!
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    Thoughtfully put, StillAddickted. Enjoyed reading that.


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    You are a fool stilladdickted, ask Muttley... ;-)
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    You are a fool stilladdickted, ask Muttley... ;-)

    Oh goody so am I now an official Motley, sorry, Muttley fool, cos in the past people used to accuse me of being nobody's fool? ;-)
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    Perhaps that's what they meant, you're nobody's fool ?

    ;o)
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    Looks like a house that's been out on the piss.
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    Where is that, Stig?
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    Somewhere in Margate; I don't know where. It's not my picture, I got it from here:

    http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2013/10/building-alex-chinneck/
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    Godwin Road in the Cliftonville area
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    Thanks, chaps. Extraordinary. Do you remember the shark bursting through a terraced-house roof in Oxford?
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    That's what my front door feels like when I've been out on the lash
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