This current run shows us for what we are. A mid table Championship side. Of course it's easy, after going on an unbeaten run, to get carried away and looking at making the play offs. It's just as tempting to get downhearted when we suffer a couple of disappointing results. But, that will be the nature of our season due to the quality we have in the squad. We have no players who are capable of running a game on their own. We do not have a 20 goal a season striker. Our loan players are all considered to be below Premiership standard by their clubs, ergo they could be considered decent Championship players. We have a good manager, but he is inexperienced and will make decisions that some fans do not understand. And he will get some things wrong. However, in my opinion he has, in his 99 games proved his worth. So, lets accept that we will lose games. We will get annoyed and frustrated. But we will also experience periods of jubilation, relief and pride. We have defeated a couple of quality teams...and we have lost to some poor ones. Therein lies our season, and it will remain so for the next 5 months; it is the nature of this league.
Just got in from the game. 2-0 flattered them, but other than the offside goal, we never looked like scoring. Looked like we should have had a penalty, but not 100% on that. So many of our players went unnoticed. Passes were all over the place. Wednesday were dreadful, and a team we should definitely be beating.
Oh well. It's a weird league this year and these kind of results will happen. I do like Danny Haynes, but when people started saying that keeping him fit was the key to our season I kept quiet. He has his moments but he's not a player who takes most, or even all that many, of his chances. He's certainly not the striker who will fire us up to the Prem. Not digging him out, I just think people got a bit too excited after his three goals and he may suffer on these boards when he doesn't keep up his tally. We'll have to keep our chins up and get the points from the next festive fixtures. Certainly not the end of the world
We had a good run of results, but were slightly flattered by that run as the luck went our way for a bit (e.g. sendings off for the opposition), we're probably not playing that much worse now, but aren't getting the points.
Waiting for the train home. For now, if you don't trouble the keeper, you don't deserve anything. Bollocks I say! Bit worried about a slump to be honest. But I am a bit pissed! Oh well.
Half way through the season and I think it is clear who the players are that cannot hack it in this league. Jackson and Kerkar not up to standard. Kermogant struggling to make an impact (as he did with Leicester in this league) and Pritchard still developing. We need a pacy left winger, centre midfielder and goal scorer all with Championship experience at least. Problem is that we probably don't have the funds for that at present.
Observations from a long distance traveller during the last 8 days:
1 Powell's Kermorgant obsession is laughable. Was it Gus Poyet who said the biggest challenge as a manager after coming up from league one is to curb your loyalty? The decision to leave Hulse on the bench this week and last was DIABOLICAL and only bettered by whatever formation we thought we were playing from 70 or so onwards today. Taking Haynes off and losing his pace was laughable, their defence swallowed our long ball game all day.
2 How did we not get at least one penalty today? Literally unbelievable. We could have had three without any exaggeration. We just don't seem to be getting any decisions.
3 Seaborne is nowhere near as good as his initial forays suggested.
4 Frimpong is ok when you are on top of a game but when you are either trying to make an impact or chasing it he is a spare part. He makes Razak look like Yaya Toure.
5 If Danny Haynes was the answer to all our problems up front we would have at least 4 more points tonight than we do. Air kicked two sitters today and fluffed a couple last week.
6 Stephens runs our midfield. Without him we are devoid of any zip, creativity or ability to pick a pass.
7 Assuming we have resources we need to invest in January. We need to renew Hulse and add a left back a central midfielder and a forward bare minimum.
Kermorgant was non existent to my mind. BUT he wasn't the only one. Feel we have to be bolder if we're to remain mid table. Think I might be a bit of a jonah, draw at Leeds and two successive defeats. For the good of the club, thank fxxk I won't be getting to another game til Hull in February. Sorry all (
Disappointing. Kermorgant out, Hulse in please. Lets forget today and move in till after Boxing Day.
Powell needs to learn that losing it with referee's isn't the way forward as they're always going to win. No matter how much of a cock up they've made.
In my opinion Powell tinkers with the team to much. He has dropped Rob Hulse when the team were on an unbeaten run and Hulse was playing well. He has now been replaced with Kermorgant. As much as I like Kermorgant, the team plays far better with Hulse leading the line.
Also Chris Powell's use of substitutes baffles me. He rarely makes a substitution before 70 mins. Last weeks game at Bolton was a good example Powell was trying to see the game out and gain a draw, when after 55 minutes a win was achievable.
Finally our home form is dire. We have not won a game at the Valley on a Saturday this season. If things don't improve we could easily find ourselves getting sucked in the relegation places.
What about the results leading up to last week and this
No one is above criticism within the make up of the team and all areas of the club
Football you win some you lose some
If he had more posters and more interst in his site then it would prove people give a shit with what is said on there but every time i have looked it's a handful of the same people
This place is the same but with more posters more diverse and normally well reasoned discussion
Move on to the next game happy Xmas and don't let it consume you
It was going to be a tough season as it is proving with a team from lge 1 and hardly anyone that was on the shopping list
Reasons to be cheerful: last 10 matches: Won 4. Drew 3. Lost 3. Averages to 1.5 points per game, which would put us around 8th in the table at seasons end.
Still - Charlton, you know - win a few, don't lose for 6, suddenly I'm lying awake thinking about the playoffs.
Hah, hello mate. Now you know that isn't true - there's been at least one team been consistently the worst side at Hillsborough this season, and you know who that is!
Good luck with the rest of the season. See you at the Valley.
Our problem is in midfield, Frimpong hasn't impressed me much. JJ isn't as effective in this league, Kerkar is our only option on the left and Stephens is inconsistent. We're a mid table side and have done well to be there with the limited funds in the summer. Hopefully we have some money in January to improve the squad
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The cushion we built up between us and the bottom 3 is getting smaller.
We need to beat Ipswich to stop the gap closing even more.
But, that will be the nature of our season due to the quality we have in the squad. We have no players who are capable of running a game on their own. We do not have a 20 goal a season striker. Our loan players are all considered to be below Premiership standard by their clubs, ergo they could be considered decent Championship players.
We have a good manager, but he is inexperienced and will make decisions that some fans do not understand. And he will get some things wrong. However, in my opinion he has, in his 99 games proved his worth.
So, lets accept that we will lose games. We will get annoyed and frustrated. But we will also experience periods of jubilation, relief and pride.
We have defeated a couple of quality teams...and we have lost to some poor ones. Therein lies our season, and it will remain so for the next 5 months; it is the nature of this league.
http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/186431-can-we-make-the-playoffs/
We need a pacy left winger, centre midfielder and goal scorer all with Championship experience at least. Problem is that we probably don't have the funds for that at present.
1 Powell's Kermorgant obsession is laughable. Was it Gus Poyet who said the biggest challenge as a manager after coming up from league one is to curb your loyalty? The decision to leave Hulse on the bench this week and last was DIABOLICAL and only bettered by whatever formation we thought we were playing from 70 or so onwards today. Taking Haynes off and losing his pace was laughable, their defence swallowed our long ball game all day.
2 How did we not get at least one penalty today? Literally unbelievable. We could have had three without any exaggeration. We just don't seem to be getting any decisions.
3 Seaborne is nowhere near as good as his initial forays suggested.
4 Frimpong is ok when you are on top of a game but when you are either trying to make an impact or chasing it he is a spare part. He makes Razak look like Yaya Toure.
5 If Danny Haynes was the answer to all our problems up front we would have at least 4 more points tonight than we do. Air kicked two sitters today and fluffed a couple last week.
6 Stephens runs our midfield. Without him we are devoid of any zip, creativity or ability to pick a pass.
7 Assuming we have resources we need to invest in January. We need to renew Hulse and add a left back a central midfielder and a forward bare minimum.
Sorry all
Please somone tell me I need to know why?
Kermorgant out, Hulse in please.
Lets forget today and move in till after Boxing Day.
Powell needs to learn that losing it with referee's isn't the way forward as they're always going to win. No matter how much of a cock up they've made.
Also Chris Powell's use of substitutes baffles me. He rarely makes a substitution before 70 mins. Last weeks game at Bolton was a good example Powell was trying to see the game out and gain a draw, when after 55 minutes a win was achievable.
Finally our home form is dire. We have not won a game at the Valley on a Saturday this season. If things don't improve we could easily find ourselves getting sucked in the relegation places.
Did he say that when we went up as champions
What about the results leading up to last week and this
No one is above criticism within the make up of the team and all areas of the club
Football you win some you lose some
If he had more posters and more interst in his site then it would prove people give a shit with what is said on there but every time i have looked it's a handful of the same people
This place is the same but with more posters more diverse and normally well reasoned discussion
Move on to the next game happy Xmas and don't let it consume you
It was going to be a tough season as it is proving with a team from lge 1 and hardly anyone that was on the shopping list
We stay up its been a success
Reasons to be cheerful: last 10 matches: Won 4. Drew 3. Lost 3. Averages to 1.5 points per game, which would put us around 8th in the table at seasons end.
Still - Charlton, you know - win a few, don't lose for 6, suddenly I'm lying awake thinking about the playoffs.
So, disappointed. Ho hum. Next.
Good luck with the rest of the season. See you at the Valley.
First goal was a worldy. Amazing strike that hamer could do nothing about.
Two quick wingers in january please