Although Jerusalem is considered England's unofficial national anthem, the lyrics refer to religion quite a lot, and it is not reflective of today's society. We'd need to keep religion/ politics out of any national anthem.
People's problem is that the National Anthem is too British - why replace it with another non-English song ?
My problem with it is that it isn't British at all - it celebrates/promotes one individual at the expense of the essence of everything that is British and even Britishness itself. Even worse it invokes god as her protector.
People's problem is that the National Anthem is too British - why replace it with another non-English song ?
My problem with it is that it isn't British at all - it celebrates/promotes one individual at the expense of the essence of everything that is British and even Britishness itself. Even worse it invokes god as her protector.
It was British. Back in the days "for King and country". That's not the case anymore.
My History isn't the greatest but that all changed with Immigration post WW2. The first major Influx of Immigration was from Poland after the war, in 1948 over 150,000 were allowed to settle in the UK. The government then offered the West Indians to settle on mass, with promises of employment.
Patriotism is a completely different concept nowadays.
People's problem is that the National Anthem is too British - why replace it with another non-English song ?
My problem with it is that it isn't British at all - it celebrates/promotes one individual at the expense of the essence of everything that is British and even Britishness itself. Even worse it invokes god as her protector.
It was British. Back in the days "for King and country". That's not the case anymore.
My History isn't the greatest but that all changed with Immigration post WW2. The first major Influx of Immigration was from Poland after the war, in 1948 over 150,000 were allowed to settle in the UK. The government then offered the West Indians to settle on mass, with promises of employment.
Patriotism is a completely different concept nowadays.
Your history isn't great I agree : - )
Waves and waves and waves of immigration before WWII, WWI, the Boer War, the Crimean War..........the Battle of Agincourt, the battle of Hastings, the Roman invasion.
I have to say I think the anthem is absolutely terrible, and it's not even English. I'm from New Zealand originally and "God Save The Queen" was our anthem when I was growing up. Nowadays they've got an equally terrible anthem which is at least specific to New Zealand, and sounds slightly less awful when sung in Maori.
I dread the times in England games when the supporters roll out that awful dirge and I temporarily lose the will to live.
It's probably why I fanatically avoid the pre-game rituals whenever I watch England or New Zealand play any sport. I don't mind missing the first couple of minutes, just to be on the safe side...
People's problem is that the National Anthem is too British - why replace it with another non-English song ?
My problem with it is that it isn't British at all - it celebrates/promotes one individual at the expense of the essence of everything that is British and even Britishness itself. Even worse it invokes god as her protector.
It was British. Back in the days "for King and country". That's not the case anymore.
My History isn't the greatest but that all changed with Immigration post WW2. The first major Influx of Immigration was from Poland after the war, in 1948 over 150,000 were allowed to settle in the UK. The government then offered the West Indians to settle on mass, with promises of employment.
Patriotism is a completely different concept nowadays.
Your history isn't great I agree : - )
Waves and waves and waves of immigration before WWII, WWI, the Boer War, the Crimean War..........the Battle of Agincourt, the battle of Hastings, the Roman invasion.
People's problem is that the National Anthem is too British - why replace it with another non-English song ?
My problem with it is that it isn't British at all - it celebrates/promotes one individual at the expense of the essence of everything that is British and even Britishness itself. Even worse it invokes god as her protector.
It was British. Back in the days "for King and country". That's not the case anymore.
My History isn't the greatest but that all changed with Immigration post WW2. The first major Influx of Immigration was from Poland after the war, in 1948 over 150,000 were allowed to settle in the UK. The government then offered the West Indians to settle on mass, with promises of employment.
Patriotism is a completely different concept nowadays.
Your history isn't great I agree : - )
Waves and waves and waves of immigration before WWII, WWI, the Boer War, the Crimean War..........the Battle of Agincourt, the battle of Hastings, the Roman invasion.
Bump. Personally dont see why we should sing about one of the descendants of the biggest thugs of 400 years ago. Should have an anthem based on The People and/or The Land - like France and virtually every other country.
I don't mind GSTQ at all but I wish we'd do all five verses at sporting events - if only to see Rooney struggling to remember the words and to wind up some of the other nations that have over-long anthems. I like it that as a country we are so self-assured that we don't have an official national anthem nor bother to put the name of our country on our postage stamps. It, too, amuses me that the Yanks just borrowed the tune and added their own lyrics for their national anthem My Country, 'Tis Of Thee which was only replaced by The Star-Spangled Banner in 1931. It probably goes without saying that that tune, too, was borrowed from elsewhere and was written by a Brit.
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The trouble I see with changing the National Anthem is getting the diversity of people in England to agree to the one Anthem.
Could could go for the last two verses if you wanted a short version
How about some stirring music like the themes from films like;
The Battle of Britain
A Bridge too Far
The Dambusters
Notice there is a "theme" happening here.
Never been a fan of Jerusalem.
Personally i would much prefer Land of Hope and Glory, and very surprised no one else has mentioned this yet.
Jesus I'm really home sick now!!
Altogether now.... ( to the theme of the Archers )
Rum tee tum tee rum tee tum rum tee tum tee tum tumm.....
My History isn't the greatest but that all changed with Immigration post WW2. The first major Influx of Immigration was from Poland after the war, in 1948 over 150,000 were allowed to settle in the UK. The government then offered the West Indians to settle on mass, with promises of employment.
Patriotism is a completely different concept nowadays.
Waves and waves and waves of immigration before WWII, WWI, the Boer War, the Crimean War..........the Battle of Agincourt, the battle of Hastings, the Roman invasion.
I dread the times in England games when the supporters roll out that awful dirge and I temporarily lose the will to live.
It's probably why I fanatically avoid the pre-game rituals whenever I watch England or New Zealand play any sport. I don't mind missing the first couple of minutes, just to be on the safe side...
Personally dont see why we should sing about one of the descendants of the biggest thugs of 400 years ago.
Should have an anthem based on The People and/or The Land - like France and virtually every other country.
I like it that as a country we are so self-assured that we don't have an official national anthem nor bother to put the name of our country on our postage stamps.
It, too, amuses me that the Yanks just borrowed the tune and added their own lyrics for their national anthem My Country, 'Tis Of Thee which was only replaced by The Star-Spangled Banner in 1931. It probably goes without saying that that tune, too, was borrowed from elsewhere and was written by a Brit.