Upper west, send em there then we can have own fans in jimmy seed
Really? Sorry but you've not really thought that one through.
Can you imagine the secregation issues getting fans in and out let alone during the game when you have 3000k Leeds/Millwall/whoever fans sitting behind the press box and above Charlton fans?
All to free up a stand I doubt many fans want to sit in anyway.
You can put the away fans in an upper stand if you volunteer to sit beneath them...
Agree but that's what always happen. It's always someone else who has to give their seats up or be inconvenienced, never those proposing the shift. NIMBY attitude.
I didn't mean as in I don't want to give up my seat (which is obviously a valid point), I mean as in if away fans are above home fans then it is guaranteed that said home supporters will be pissed on / spat on / targeted by missiles and would he like to volunteer to sit through that shower?
Well the best plan seems to be wait for promotion to the prem, stay there, then finish off the Valley upgrade sometime over the next few years, and finally stick the away fans in one of the South Quadrants.
Done. Awesome. Thread closed.
I thought we couldn't actually do this now either, because of selling the land that would have been used?
Well the best plan seems to be wait for promotion to the prem, stay there, then finish off the Valley upgrade sometime over the next few years, and finally stick the away fans in one of the South Quadrants.
Done. Awesome. Thread closed.
I thought we couldn't actually do this now either, because of selling the land that would have been used?
Yeah and this was part of the issue with the flats that were going to be built as part of the project. Presumably if we stayed top 10 in the Prem to this day, we would have fought to get this upgrade done, but its a hard sell when the Valley only gets 2/3rds full in the 2nd tier of English footy....
The artist impression of a completed Valley looked amazing though....
Pardew tried getting the away fans relocated whilst with us but as people have said on here, policing becomes more complicated. Imagine Scumwall fans in the same stand?
The "evidence" of away fans being behind the goal improving the performance of away sides is flimsy at best. Correlation (if there even is one!) does not imply causation.
Does it matter? Most popular is most popular. Am sure it was more than 3 and less than 27000
How odd. Of course it matters.
If it was just three people then you wouldn't take it seriously. If it was 1000 then you might if it represented a major groundswell of opinion. I thought that's what the FF was for?
I like the idea but my worry is that if it didnt get that many fans in then it will look a bit stupid compared to at the moment if a stand doesnt fill it isnt as bad because the stand is longer and doesnt look as bad
Wouldnt matter if they built a 10000 seater for away fans in the Jimmy Seed stand, theres still far more home fans in the home areas. The thing is to wake uo the living dead in the other 3 stands
A study was conducted several years ago into the silent occupents of The West stand and it was concluded that they are in fact 'The Dead Living.' Confusion is often made between this sub-species and the 'Deceased Alive.' The 'Deceased Alive' show all normal respiratory and psysiological function although they appear to be dead. It was at first thought that members of The West Stand fell into this category. Upon further study it was concluded that their respiration was too slow to be categorised as such and as a result they were classed as 'Dead Living.' Debate on the matter is still ongoing due to small volumes of excitement being detected at the end of last season.
The Sam Bartram statue is going to be used in the 2013/14 season as a control. Please do not be disturbed when you first see it connected to pulse oximeters.
I like the sound of a pulse oximeter. If it were connected to a person of low intelligence, would he be classed as an oxymoron?
Mate of mine came to the Wolves game and was somewhat bemused as to why so many people were congregated in the corner outside the Jimmy Seed. Told her it was so they could get a beer. Suitably Irish reposte. West upper ain't great, but there are better away ends in League 2 than ours. As for tradition - and Pardew
Wouldnt matter if they built a 10000 seater for away fans in the Jimmy Seed stand, theres still far more home fans in the home areas. The thing is to wake uo the living dead in the other 3 stands
A study was conducted several years ago into the silent occupents of The West stand and it was concluded that they are in fact 'The Dead Living.' Confusion is often made between this sub-species and the 'Deceased Alive.' The 'Deceased Alive' show all normal respiratory and psysiological function although they appear to be dead. It was at first thought that members of The West Stand fell into this category. Upon further study it was concluded that their respiration was too slow to be categorised as such and as a result they were classed as 'Dead Living.' Debate on the matter is still ongoing due to small volumes of excitement being detected at the end of last season.
The Sam Bartram statue is going to be used in the 2013/14 season as a control. Please do not be disturbed when you first see it connected to pulse oximeters.
I like the sound of a pulse oximeter. If it were connected to a person of low intelligence, would he be classed as an oxymoron?
Evolution has indeed played some cruel tricks. I can confirm that in the Upper West where I sit, amongst my fellow "Dead Living", yet another sub-species is fairly common. This is the "Brain Dead". However, my guess is that this species is often also found in other parts of the Ground!!
Keep the away fans where they are now, it makes sense. The biggest issue I have is all the empty seats in the north lower. Always looks odd when upstairs is full. When you see the players score at that end they hardly get mobbed do they. I know the pricing policy doesn't help but it seems such a shame that the area closest to the action has more than their fair share of empty seats.
Upper west, send em there then we can have own fans in jimmy seed
Really? Sorry but you've not really thought that one through.
Can you imagine the secregation issues getting fans in and out let alone during the game when you have 3000k Leeds/Millwall/whoever fans sitting behind the press box and above Charlton fans?
All to free up a stand I doubt many fans want to sit in anyway.
Keep the away fans where they are now, it makes sense. The biggest issue I have is all the empty seats in the north lower. Always looks odd when upstairs is full. When you see the players score at that end they hardly get mobbed do they. I know the pricing policy doesn't help but it seems such a shame that the area closest to the action has more than their fair share of empty seats.
It looks odd on the telly when we have 20,000+ crowd sometimes only for it to look empty due to the sparsely populated north lower.
The issue isn't just segregation, it's also access to toilets for both sexes and adequate refreshment facilities, but if you put away fans in the lower west you would also be putting hospitality boxes in the away end. In reality we have a stand that currently works very well for managing away supporters on most counts and which few home supporters would prefer to use. It would make no sense whatsoever to change that for a situation where there would be numerous practical issues, displaced and disaffected season-ticket holders, increased policing and stewarding charges, and significant capital cost - even if the police would agree it.
The issue isn't just segregation, it's also access to toilets for both sexes and adequate refreshment facilities, but if you put away fans in the lower west you would also be putting hospitality boxes in the away end. In reality we have a stand that currently works very well for managing away supporters on most counts and which few home supporters would prefer to use. It would make no sense whatsoever to change that for a situation where there would be numerous practical issues, displaced and disaffected season-ticket holders, increased policing and stewarding charges, and significant capital cost - even if the police would agree it.
Assuming there are no plans for us to move away from the Valley, are there plans to rebuild the Jimmy Seed? Obviously finances would need to change.
The issue isn't just segregation, it's also access to toilets for both sexes and adequate refreshment facilities, but if you put away fans in the lower west you would also be putting hospitality boxes in the away end. In reality we have a stand that currently works very well for managing away supporters on most counts and which few home supporters would prefer to use. It would make no sense whatsoever to change that for a situation where there would be numerous practical issues, displaced and disaffected season-ticket holders, increased policing and stewarding charges, and significant capital cost - even if the police would agree it.
Assuming there are no plans for us to move away from the Valley, are there plans to rebuild the Jimmy Seed? Obviously finances would need to change.
There was a scheme, but it will be compromised by the Lansdowne Mews issues. I think it's academic for the foreseeable future though.
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The artist impression of a completed Valley looked amazing though....
If it was just three people then you wouldn't take it seriously. If it was 1000 then you might if it represented a major groundswell of opinion. I thought that's what the FF was for?
. I don't have that info, so was just asking.