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    Dazzler21 said:

    they do generate about 500 million a year in tourism ( the royal family ) congrats to them i think that will be it now for kids.

    This is a nonsense. The Royal Family doesn't generate any tourism money. Tourists don't meet the bloody Queen. Its the Royal buildings that attract the tourists, and generate money. You can keep the buildings, and dispense of the vastly expensive Royal Family. Versailles is evidence of this.

    https://www.republic.org.uk/what-we-want/monarchy-myth-buster
    This. I am not overly keen on the royals. I think they should earn their keep.

    I do respect the William and Harry generation for having served and wanting to carry on. I was disappointed in the way that Harry wasn't allowed to stay in the army.
    The Queen worked hard for her money yesterday, pushing the start button to get the London Marathon under way. It could not have been easy getting to Greenwich at that time of the morning to join the masses in her capital city.

    Oh hold on a minute, they rigged up a button on the lawn at Windsor Castle......lol.
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    Greenie said:

    they do generate about 500 million a year in tourism ( the royal family ) congrats to them i think that will be it now for kids.

    This is a nonsense. The Royal Family doesn't generate any tourism money. Tourists don't meet the bloody Queen. Its the Royal buildings that attract the tourists, and generate money. You can keep the buildings, and dispense of the vastly expensive Royal Family. Versailles is evidence of this.

    https://www.republic.org.uk/what-we-want/monarchy-myth-buster
    its not really a nonesene is it take the queen out of buckingham palace and whats the usp this is where the royal family used to live?. yanks love the queen and getting photos and buying all the tat from the souvenir shops.
    Its not nonsense though is it, In 2006, 13,650,000 people visited Notre Dame, imagine their disappointment when Quasimodo wasn't in..... also figures just released stated that Wills wedding cost us £6million in security alone, and now we have another wedding coming up, they have stated that they are paying for the wedding themselves, they're not paying for security, because the Police and security money etc. will come from the public purse. The Royal Family are a drain on our country, Prince Charles owns most of bloody Cornwall, how can that be right, and in these times of austerity we dont need them?
    And can anyone really explain why we have to bow or curtsy to them?
    Take a bow Greenie, when I read that line above I genuinely had a laugh out loud moment. I went to the Notre Dame Cathedral a couple of years ago and climbed all the way to the top and you are right...................Quasi wasn't home.
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    http://brandfinance.com/news/press-releases/valued-at-67-billion-the-monarchy-is-britains-greatest-treasure/

    'As the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh celebrate their Platinum Wedding Anniversary, leading brand and business valuation consultancy Brand Finance has estimated the total worth of the UK Monarchy. Growing every year since the inception of the study in 2012'

    Seems a damn sight more reputable than republic.org, whom by the way, source some of their statistics from the daily mail..
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    The Sovereign Grant is around £40m a year that comes straight from the treasury - profit from the Crown Estates is around £300m a year that goes straight to the treasury. The Royal family do not cost the taxpayer a penny - in fact we make a profit!!

    I'm not against them for the cost - I'm against them for the fact that the highest position in the land, the Head of State, is there by birth (privilege) and not by merit or election.
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    edited April 2018
    so they don't cost us (the taxpayer) anything, which is what most people have a gripe with them about.

    please @TalBHAndreBA how was i talking nonesense?
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    bobmunro said:

    I'm not against them for the cost - I'm against them for the fact that the highest position in the land, the Head of State, is there by birth (privilege) and not by merit or election.

    This (not that you could really say any of our elected officials are there on merit).

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    so they don't cost us (the taxpayer) anything, which is what most people have a gripe with them about.

    please @TalBHAndreBA how was i talking nonesense?

    Depending what sources you wish to believe, however if they weren't here then we would make money because the tourists would come anyway.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/the-biggest-myth-about-the-queen-her-contribution-to-the-british-economy-10491277.html
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    bobmunro said:

    PaddyP17 said:
    No, just no - almost a flag there.

    The Nigels never, ever deserve credit for anything they do.
    And it wasn’t funny.

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    Riviera said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    they do generate about 500 million a year in tourism ( the royal family ) congrats to them i think that will be it now for kids.

    This is a nonsense. The Royal Family doesn't generate any tourism money. Tourists don't meet the bloody Queen. Its the Royal buildings that attract the tourists, and generate money. You can keep the buildings, and dispense of the vastly expensive Royal Family. Versailles is evidence of this.

    https://www.republic.org.uk/what-we-want/monarchy-myth-buster
    This. I am not overly keen on the royals. I think they should earn their keep.

    I do respect the William and Harry generation for having served and wanting to carry on. I was disappointed in the way that Harry wasn't allowed to stay in the army.
    The Queen worked hard for her money yesterday, pushing the start button to get the London Marathon under way. It could not have been easy getting to Greenwich at that time of the morning to join the masses in her capital city.

    Oh hold on a minute, they rigged up a button on the lawn at Windsor Castle......lol.
    She really does deserve respect for sitting through that shit on Saturday night!
    ??? What shit?
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    they do generate about 500 million a year in tourism ( the royal family ) congrats to them i think that will be it now for kids.

    This is a nonsense. The Royal Family doesn't generate any tourism money. Tourists don't meet the bloody Queen. Its the Royal buildings that attract the tourists, and generate money. You can keep the buildings, and dispense of the vastly expensive Royal Family. Versailles is evidence of this.

    https://www.republic.org.uk/what-we-want/monarchy-myth-buster
    I guess then, that Sandringham and Balmoral (which HMQE2 owns personally) would be off limits, and what would be the attraction of Buck House to a tourist if no royals actually lived there ?

    They would just become like the MOD building in Whitehall etc - great buildings but totally functional.

    Would you be happy for the taxpayer to fund their personal security - like we do for Tony Blair etc ?

    If so, we would then be paying the security bill without any of the personal appearance benefits/income.
    If not, should we rescind taxpayer funded protection for everyone ?

    It's a much bigger question than some anti-royalty folk think, it has all kinds of consequences.
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    Love the Royals and think they are excellent value for money, if you consider that they could pull away from their official duty and still live a quiet, very privileged life without the commitment and grief that goes with Royal life.

    Yes they're brilliant at their job - I'm just hoping
    Meghan Markle fits into the family as well as Kate has done.

    Funny how all the other families on benefits don't get as much attention as they do.

    William managed 171 royal engagements last year and Kate 105. I don't know how they find the time.

    We're very lucky that they carry out any official duties and as a country we should be grateful to them for doing so.

    They give far more than they take. I personally believe they need more money from the State.
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    Congratulations William and Kate.

    I wonder why people who say they have no interest in this news, bother to look at this thread!
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    Congratulations William and Kate.

    I wonder why people who say they have no interest in this news, bother to look at this thread!

    Difficult to moan about Charlton this week :wink:
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    All people are born equal.

    Unless your last name is Windsor.
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    PaddyP17 said:
    Even their attempt at humour make them look like pricks. Stupid stripey bellends
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    Congratulations William and Kate.

    I wonder why people who say they have no interest in this news, bother to look at this thread!

    I wonder why people take the Royal family seriously? We all wonder something as far as I can see?
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    All people are born equal.

    Unless your last name is Windsor.

    From birth, would you be happy for your life to be laid bare by the media. Be told who you can and can't sicialise with. Be on duty virtually every day of your adult life and be ridiculed and accountable for everything you said and done. Turn out for public engagements, on demand, with a smile to meet and greet strangers, all while heading up various chatities, all for say, £10 million?
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    edited April 2018
    I love them god save the queen.

    with the exception of St Pauls cathedral and what the building means to me personally Buckingham palace is my second fav building in London

    I don’t care what they cost I don’t care if it’s a birth right I don’t give two fucks about any of it

    Long may they reign long may they live and god bless every single one of them
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    I love them god save the queen.

    with the exception of St Pauls cathedral and what the building means to me personally Buckingham palace is my second fav building in London

    I don’t care what they cost I don’t care if it’s a birth right I don’t give two fucks about any of it

    Long may they reign long may they live and god bless every single one of them

    Well thought out and cogent defence of the indefensible.

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    edited April 2018
    It's a blinkin' boy. Don't you follow the news!? [He said replying to posts from 2013].

    James, obviously.
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    All people are born equal.

    Unless your last name is Windsor.

    From birth, would you be happy for your life to be laid bare by the media. Be told who you can and can't sicialise with. Be on duty virtually every day of your adult life and be ridiculed and accountable for everything you said and done. Turn out for public engagements, on demand, with a smile to meet and greet strangers, all while heading up various chatities, all for say, £10 million?
    None of that particularly matters.

    The idea that someone is born 'above' anyone else is wrong and shouldn't be in a modern society.

    The fact the child has to live a life provided for them with little choice doesn't help your case.
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