Jordan Ibe
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FishCostaFortune said:ricky_otto said:clive said:
Jordon Ibe has revealed he is in rehabilitation to improve his mental health and become a better person after 'making poor judgements.'
Bournemouth winger Ibe has apologised and sought help after being stopped by police while driving without a licence.
The geezer was pissed up and driving without a licence and lucky was lucky he didn’t kill anybody. I don’t know If he has mental health issues - but if he does, then it shouldn’t take driving in to a cafe window to make him do something about it. If he had killed somebody - would it have been alright to say “oh well never mind he’s got mental health issues”?3 -
ricky_otto said:FishCostaFortune said:ricky_otto said:clive said:
Jordon Ibe has revealed he is in rehabilitation to improve his mental health and become a better person after 'making poor judgements.'
Bournemouth winger Ibe has apologised and sought help after being stopped by police while driving without a licence.
The geezer was pissed up and driving without a licence and lucky was lucky he didn’t kill anybody. I don’t know If he has mental health issues - but if he does, then it shouldn’t take driving in to a cafe window to make him do something about it.
At the end of the day, do you think anyone really cares about Jordan Ibe at the moment. He could have quiet easily said nothing at all and no one would have even remembered what is going on, I certainly didn't before I read the article. But maybe in a time where mental health issues are particular in the spotlight because of our ongoing lockdown he wanted to mention something about it so other people would seek help if they needed it?
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ricky_otto said:FishCostaFortune said:ricky_otto said:clive said:
Jordon Ibe has revealed he is in rehabilitation to improve his mental health and become a better person after 'making poor judgements.'
Bournemouth winger Ibe has apologised and sought help after being stopped by police while driving without a licence.
The geezer was pissed up and driving without a licence and lucky was lucky he didn’t kill anybody. I don’t know If he has mental health issues - but if he does, then it shouldn’t take driving in to a cafe window to make him do something about it. If he had killed somebody - would it have been alright to say “oh well never mind he’s got mental health issues”?
The point I am making here is that you originally said that Jordan Ibe claiming he has mental health issues 'is insulting to people who suffer from it' based of literally no understanding about the person himself. I can only assume because he is a young rich professional footballer that has been in trouble before, that you believe he cannot have mental health problems?
However I can tell you there are plenty of people of all ages and socio economic backgrounds who have drinks, drug, and other addiction issues that have only started to seek professional help after getting in serious trouble.2 -
re comments people were making earlier in the year, do you really think driving without a license and thinking you can get away with it is the behaviour of a mentally well person? Sounds like some one in the mania stage of bi polar would do.9
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Football must be a really horrible arena to deal with mental health issues in. If you have mental health issues at your regular place of employment it will likely affect your work, and that might lead to some conversations in people's offices and hopefully some space for you to get better. When your work is football then on top of whatever you're dealing with you have to deal with various onlookers telling you you're 'shit' and you were never that good to begin with and the last people made a mistake when they hired you. On top of that you've got the knowledge that people will likely also laugh and ask what you've got to be depressed about with all your money if you decide to speak out about it. It must cause such a miserable additional strain to have a bunch of strangers turn on you and feed into the negative thoughts already swirling round in your head. I hope Derby support him well and he gets some distance until he's feeling better
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addick1956 said:kentaddick said:re comments people were making earlier in the year, do you really think driving without a license and thinking you can get away with it is the behaviour of a mentally well person? Sounds like some one in the mania stage of bi polar would do.
In a bad place....plenty others in a worse place at this time. Needs a kick in the balls.
His mental health is a reason, not an excuse for his bad behaviour.21 -
kentaddick said:re comments people were making earlier in the year, do you really think driving without a license and thinking you can get away with it is the behaviour of a mentally well person? Sounds like some one in the mania stage of bi polar would do.
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SuedeAdidas said:kentaddick said:re comments people were making earlier in the year, do you really think driving without a license and thinking you can get away with it is the behaviour of a mentally well person? Sounds like some one in the mania stage of bi polar would do.1
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A bit of sympathy for the guy is perhaps most appropriate at present rather than comment on past behaviour. Nobody knows where he is at and it sounds like he is struggling.
Far too easy to judge sometimes.5 - Sponsored links:
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addick1956 said:kentaddick said:re comments people were making earlier in the year, do you really think driving without a license and thinking you can get away with it is the behaviour of a mentally well person? Sounds like some one in the mania stage of bi polar would do.
In a bad place....plenty others in a worse place at this time. Needs a kick in the balls.
Someone admits publicly to suffering from depression - kick him in the balls as others are worse off. Jeez.12 -
How is it reasonable people can come across as proper plonkers on here sometimes?
The car incident happened last year, leave it in 2020 unless he does similar in 21.
The guy is clearly struggling with his mental health now. He needs support from those that know him, his club and a trained professional.
This is as equally clear a call for help as I've ever seen from a depressed person.
How could anyone know if others are in a worse place right now? He might be minutes from taking his own life, or minutes from finding something that helps him get it back on track.
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People very sympathetic about players will mental problems.
How did they get this way though? Maybe continuous abuse by fans doesn't help, eg Simon Francis, Morgan Fox, Omar Bogle where they get crucified over every error they make.9 -
kentaddick said:SuedeAdidas said:kentaddick said:re comments people were making earlier in the year, do you really think driving without a license and thinking you can get away with it is the behaviour of a mentally well person? Sounds like some one in the mania stage of bi polar would do.
As far as I was aware, he crashed a car and scarpered?
Is that now benchmark activity for a mentally unhealthy state?
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hoof_it_up_to_benty said:A bit of sympathy for the guy is perhaps most appropriate at present rather than comment on past behaviour. Nobody knows where he is at and it sounds like he is struggling.
Far too easy to judge sometimes.
If it's not their own experience perhaps some just don't understand?
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I feel for him, but at the same time, I don’t think it was unreasonable to criticise him at the time of the driving incident. This new information gives context to his mindset and possibly explains some of his behaviour, but you can’t expect people not to criticise bad behaviour on the off chance there might be extenuating circumstances.As an aside, I think it’s important to be balanced here. Ibe’s mental state may explain some of his actions, but it doesn’t excuse them. There’s an important difference. I have sympathy for him and hope he’s getting appropriate help, but he should own his mistakes regardless.And to be fair, I suspect he is doing so.7
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SuedeAdidas said:kentaddick said:re comments people were making earlier in the year, do you really think driving without a license and thinking you can get away with it is the behaviour of a mentally well person? Sounds like some one in the mania stage of bi polar would do.0
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Mental health disorders affect people in many different ways regardless of social and economic factors. Help can be offered and provided in many forms but it can take years until it is successful in even a small way.
The best approach to take when discussing the mental health of others is be kind and don’t judge, speculate or condemn.1 -
Dazzler21 said:How is it reasonable people can come across as proper plonkers on here sometimes?
The car incident happened last year, leave it in 2020 unless he does similar in 21.
The guy is clearly struggling with his mental health now. He needs support from those that know him, his club and a trained professional.
This is as equally clear a call for help as I've ever seen from a depressed person.
How could anyone know if others are in a worse place right now? He might be minutes from taking his own life, or minutes from finding something that helps him get it back on track.2 -
addick1956 said:This man's actions are despicable. He worked a coffee shop by reckless driving ..he was banned. He then drove again whilst disqualified. Suppose he he had killed someone in either incident. Would you then be so magnanimous about 'his' feelings. I doubt it.
This guy is one step below being another Lee Hughes who I remember was roundly jeered for the entire match when he turned up at the Valley for Notts County 8-10 years ago.
People who disagree with your views are not dickheads or old fashioned in their views.
As I said he is in a far better position than a lot of people far more deserving of sympathy and help than this bloke.0 - Sponsored links:
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addick1956 said:This man's actions are despicable. He worked a coffee shop by reckless driving ..he was banned. He then drove again whilst disqualified. Suppose he he had killed someone in either incident. Would you then be so magnanimous about 'his' feelings. I doubt it.
This guy is one step below being another Lee Hughes who I remember was roundly jeered for the entire match when he turned up at the Valley for Notts County 8-10 years ago.
People who disagree with your views are not dickheads or old fashioned in their views.
As I said he is in a far better position than a lot of people far more deserving of sympathy and help than this bloke.5 -
addick1956 said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:addick1956 said:This man's actions are despicable. He worked a coffee shop by reckless driving ..he was banned. He then drove again whilst disqualified. Suppose he he had killed someone in either incident. Would you then be so magnanimous about 'his' feelings. I doubt it.
This guy is one step below being another Lee Hughes who I remember was roundly jeered for the entire match when he turned up at the Valley for Notts County 8-10 years ago.
People who disagree with your views are not dickheads or old fashioned in their views.
As I said he is in a far better position than a lot of people far more deserving of sympathy and help than this bloke.
As I said Lee Hughes received dogs abuse after his act of cowardice .
It is not about empathy but moral compass. I can see you are unaware of that but there are people far worse off than this person. Far worse off.
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I was in a very dark place early this year. I had a troubled childhood with a very troubled teenage years and felt i was slipping in too a place no one would want to be. I am well off , debt free,own my own house, YET something inside my head was wrong. No rhyme, no reason and i just wanted to run away, hide. Some times i felt overwhelmed, yet i am a senior civil servant with loads of responsibility. I had to deal with this on my own again as i had as a teenager. I didn't want sympathy i wanted space and time.
Quiet and on my own at my own pace. I did not get it but was able to keep putting one foot in front of the other, and made it. Will it come back? i hope not! Sometimes people just need space and time.
I am sure had i had a problem, people would have said "what the f@*k was he thinking" the thing is you are not thinking straight, not because of drink, drugs, just because you are screwed up, and you have to deal with it on your own.10 -
addick1956 said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:addick1956 said:This man's actions are despicable. He worked a coffee shop by reckless driving ..he was banned. He then drove again whilst disqualified. Suppose he he had killed someone in either incident. Would you then be so magnanimous about 'his' feelings. I doubt it.
This guy is one step below being another Lee Hughes who I remember was roundly jeered for the entire match when he turned up at the Valley for Notts County 8-10 years ago.
People who disagree with your views are not dickheads or old fashioned in their views.
As I said he is in a far better position than a lot of people far more deserving of sympathy and help than this bloke.
As I said Lee Hughes received dogs abuse after his act of cowardice .
It is not about empathy but moral compass. I can see you are unaware of that but there are people far worse off than this person. Far worse off.
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I’m actually ashamed and embarrassed to read some of the comments on here.
This is one of the main reasons why people don’t come out about their mental health struggles.
The attitude you often find is unless it impacts you, you don’t care what others feel or if they’re in a more privileged position than the majority of us, you don’t care. That’s so wrong and makes me so angry and disappointed.
You can have all the money in the world but you still are human, you have feelings and events impact you.
You can have access to all the help available within the industry you find yourself in or have a good supporting network, but if you have any kind of understanding of depression, you would know it takes an incredible effort to be open and understand how you feel. Let alone seek help.
His mental health does not excuse his actions of the past but it allows an understanding of the place he was in to behave the way he did at the time.
I don’t wish depression on anyone. And I hope he gets the help he needs and is back to some form of himself in the near future.
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addick1956 said:thenewbie said:addick1956 said:hoof_it_up_to_benty said:addick1956 said:This man's actions are despicable. He worked a coffee shop by reckless driving ..he was banned. He then drove again whilst disqualified. Suppose he he had killed someone in either incident. Would you then be so magnanimous about 'his' feelings. I doubt it.
This guy is one step below being another Lee Hughes who I remember was roundly jeered for the entire match when he turned up at the Valley for Notts County 8-10 years ago.
People who disagree with your views are not dickheads or old fashioned in their views.
As I said he is in a far better position than a lot of people far more deserving of sympathy and help than this bloke.
As I said Lee Hughes received dogs abuse after his act of cowardice .
It is not about empathy but moral compass. I can see you are unaware of that but there are people far worse off than this person. Far worse off.
I am not sympathetic to people who do as he did, that is true.
I can't understand why you can find so much empathy for a person who runs away from his own actions, gets caught anyway , does a
similar thing knowing he is banned and then seeks sympathy.
However there are people in a far worse position than this guy who has support and is not alone .
The ones who deserve help are those with no recourse to such help and guidance and without the wherewithal to do so.
Why are you so obsessed with celebrities who screw up and seek more attention?
Depression can affect absolutely anyone, regardless of wealth. Ask anyone who has suffered from it or has family or friends with the condition. Money and success are no comfort at all.
It's not for you or I to say who deserves help and support or not.3 -
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Spooky.I just watched a “where are they now” video on Youtube about Klopp’s squad in his first match at LFC in which Ibe featured.Local cafe owners beware!0
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Macdonalds Drive Ins should be ok though.0
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Welcome to the second best club in the world.0