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World Cup soon to include Lesotho, Cape Verde Islands and the Isle Of Wight...

Leroy Ambrose
Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,438
edited October 2013 in Other Football and Sports
Well, not exactly - but as if 32 wasn't expanding it too much, that twonk Platini wants 40 teams from 2018...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24701131
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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,990
    32 teams is absolutely perfect imo.

    A months worth of games and a fair balance of sides.

    Platini really is a knob.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,656
    Isle of Wight sounds like a great idea Leroy , any others?
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,073
    Cornwall
  • Shag
    Shag Posts: 4,555
    Scotland
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,438
    edited October 2013
    Greenland?

    Actually, no - on second thoughts. They'll probably be the host nation in 2026
  • Hampshire_Addick
    Hampshire_Addick Posts: 93
    ValleyGary said:

    32 teams is absolutely perfect imo.

    A months worth of games and a fair balance of sides.

    Platini really is a knob.

    For once Platini isn't being a knob. Blatter wants less European countries and more African and Asian. Platini's suggestion is to make sure Europe do not loose any places in the World Cup. For once its for the best interests of UEFA/Europe.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,876
    Will lead to too many dead rubbers in my opinion.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,765
    Shag said:

    Scotland

    Now your being ridiculous
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,373
    Don't see too much wrong with it really. Not fussed if they keep it at 32 or open it to 40.

    I also thought the idea of a European wide Euro 2020 was pretty decent, though I know I'm in a minority there.
  • Super_horns
    Super_horns Posts: 1,299
    Anything for a bit more money...

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  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,786
    My money's on the Isle of Man to win the WC by 2030...............
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,061
    Hampshire_Addick said:

    ValleyGary said:

    32 teams is absolutely perfect imo.

    A months worth of games and a fair balance of sides.

    Platini really is a knob.

    For once Platini isn't being a knob. Blatter wants less European countries and more African and Asian. Platini's suggestion is to make sure Europe do not loose any places in the World Cup. For once its for the best interests of UEFA/Europe.

    Apparently Europe has 54 countries and 13 WC spots. Africa has 53 countries and 5 WC spots. Blatter wants a more even distribution.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,052
    They should reduce the number of European teams imho. Only about 5 teams are capable of winning it anyway, so what does it matter if a few European teams who aren't going to win aren't included?
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    McBobbin said:

    They should reduce the number of European teams imho. Only about 5 teams are capable of winning it anyway, so what does it matter if a few European teams who aren't going to win aren't included?

    Does that include England then?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,255
    edited October 2013
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Hampshire_Addick said:

    ValleyGary said:

    32 teams is absolutely perfect imo.

    A months worth of games and a fair balance of sides.

    Platini really is a knob.

    For once Platini isn't being a knob. Blatter wants less European countries and more African and Asian. Platini's suggestion is to make sure Europe do not loose any places in the World Cup. For once its for the best interests of UEFA/Europe.

    Apparently Europe has 54 countries and 13 WC spots. Africa has 53 countries and 5 WC spots. Blatter wants a more even distribution more votes.
    I've just corrected that for you. : - )

    32 is too big already. The bigger it gets the harder it is to find countries willing to stage it that haven't done so already fairly recently so you end up giving it to the same old places or places like Qatar with more money than sense.

    32 does, like 16, have the advantage of making the maths work with two qualifiers from 8 groups going to the knock out. Much better than the groups of three players we had when it was 24. Of course the Euros are now 24 teams.

  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,438
    Agree - All Blatter gives a shit about is getting more votes from tinpot countries who have fuck all chance of winning it. TBH, I think the world cup in its current format has had its day. The last three tournaments have been pretty dire, entertainment-wise - and it's an absolute joke that a team ranked 200 odd in the world has an equal say in who gets to host the tournament. The sooner the big countries get together and fuck FIFA off the better.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,255
    Leroy Ambrose said:

    Agree - All Blatter gives a shit about is getting more votes from tinpot countries who have fuck all chance of winning it. TBH, I think the world cup in its current format has had its day. The last three tournaments have been pretty dire, entertainment-wise - and it's an absolute joke that a team ranked 200 odd in the world has an equal say in who gets to host the tournament. The sooner the big countries get together and fuck FIFA off the better.

    I think the problem is that the country ranked 200 doesn't get a direct say.

    Previous voting was by around 12 delegates. This made it much easier to bribe influence these people. As the Olympics found out by extending voting it becomes a better, if not perfect system. There would still be block voting and corruption but enough national FA may vote for a decent country to host rather than a delegate picking the best rolex.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,368
    edited October 2013
    Bedsaddick said:

    Shag said:

    Scotland

    Now your being ridiculous
    I know, the Isle of Wight would rinse them inside and out in the play off game!
  • redcarter
    redcarter Posts: 1,011
    European Championships going up to 32 is worse.
  • redcarter
    redcarter Posts: 1,011
    Going up to 24, my bad.

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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,990
    edited October 2013
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Hampshire_Addick said:

    ValleyGary said:

    32 teams is absolutely perfect imo.

    A months worth of games and a fair balance of sides.

    Platini really is a knob.

    For once Platini isn't being a knob. Blatter wants less European countries and more African and Asian. Platini's suggestion is to make sure Europe do not loose any places in the World Cup. For once its for the best interests of UEFA/Europe.

    Apparently Europe has 54 countries and 13 WC spots. Africa has 53 countries and 5 WC spots. Blatter wants a more even distribution.
    The thing is that Europe has about 15 decent sides and Africa has about 5.

    More even distribution will lead to even worse tournaments. Bigger tournaments will just make it boring.
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,968
    ValleyGary said:

    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Hampshire_Addick said:

    ValleyGary said:

    32 teams is absolutely perfect imo.

    A months worth of games and a fair balance of sides.

    Platini really is a knob.

    For once Platini isn't being a knob. Blatter wants less European countries and more African and Asian. Platini's suggestion is to make sure Europe do not loose any places in the World Cup. For once its for the best interests of UEFA/Europe.

    Apparently Europe has 54 countries and 13 WC spots. Africa has 53 countries and 5 WC spots. Blatter wants a more even distribution.
    The thing is that Europe has about 15 decent sides and Africa has about 5.

    More even distribution will lead to even worse tournaments. Bigger tournaments will just make it boring.
    this 100%

    how many top sides are their in Africa and Asia compared to europe?

  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,052
    eaststandmike said:

    McBobbin said:

    They should reduce the number of European teams imho. Only about 5 teams are capable of winning it anyway, so what does it matter if a few European teams who aren't going to win aren't included?

    Does that include England then?
    Alas, no. And I'm an England supporter.
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    enfield island village are looking to enter i am in
  • rananegra
    rananegra Posts: 3,694
    If Islands get to have a go the Isle of Dogs is going to enter, but first they have to get their local team back the wrong side of the river.
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    Why not go to 50 to celebrate the heat of the final in Qatar.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,200
    I have a theory as to why this might work. At present, with the top two qualifying for the knock-out stages from the group matches, you can get the situation where teams are too cautious or the top-rated teams in the group play out bore draws in the knowledge that all they have to do is beat the lesser teams to get through to the next phase. Also the last games in the group stage can be very dull if there's nothing much to play for.
    However, if there were 10 groups of four with the top ten teams plus only the six best second-placed teams qualifying for the knock-out stages, we might get better games as teams could not be so sure that they would get through until after the final group matches had been played.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,743
    edited October 2013
    A good idea until you look into the details. In the conventional format it would mean 10 games in a group, rather than 6. But also would mean it is impossible to play final group games at the same time so a team could know what they need to do. Best second places is messy as it doesn't take into account that there will be strong/weak groups!

    Also, that is another 32 games that have to be slotted in.

    But Platini is right in that the number of teams from Europe can't fall. It is true that the standards across the globe have increased significantly over recent years, but of the current top 20 international sides - 14 are European. The depth of quality should be the driver for the number of particiapnts, so if the ratio changes, then other continents should then get a greater share.
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,655
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    Hampshire_Addick said:

    ValleyGary said:

    32 teams is absolutely perfect imo.

    A months worth of games and a fair balance of sides.

    Platini really is a knob.

    For once Platini isn't being a knob. Blatter wants less European countries and more African and Asian. Platini's suggestion is to make sure Europe do not loose any places in the World Cup. For once its for the best interests of UEFA/Europe.

    Apparently Europe has 54 countries and 13 WC spots. Africa has 53 countries and 5 WC spots. Blatter wants a more even distribution.

    Cue The Society of Black Lawyers.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,743
    Blatter is a fool though - If you did it on merit- you would take spots from Africa. If you look at FIFA's own rankings as of the position today (October 2013) - Europe has 20 teams in the top 32 -Africa has 3!

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