Nobody is being forced to wear the poppy! The question is, why would anyone resident in the UK not want to wear one?
Freedom of thought and expression. Which doesn't necessarily imply any disrespect to the servicemen but a rejection of the groupthink that demands certain behaviour.
Oh so its down to the principle then that anyone dare assume that they would want to wear a poppy.
Of course there are many that want to wear a poppy, but that doesn't mean everyone has to. That's all.
I personally support the poppy appeal because I think nomatter what some say it represents to me a sign of respect and gratitude to those that have fallen and as a help to those that are now suffering because they chose to fight for their country. I do not support all the conflicts we are currently involved in but I don't see that one affects the other. I also support the notion of the White poppy for peace and would be happy to wear one alongside my red poppy if I could find somewhere to buy one. If someone chooses not to support either of the above I am happy that they have the right not to do so which as others have said is a freedom that many have fought and died to preserve.
How about if a club arranged to wear "kick it out" shirts but a couple of players won't ?
Or if they were all going to the local mosque's youth football team to encourage integration but half the team would not do it ?
What if there was a planned club trip to the blood donor office to encourage people to attend but the 3 star players' religious beliefs would not allow the idea of blood transfution so they refused ?
A club wants players to wear gay-rainbow colours on the back of their shorts because a local (gay) business man has sponsored them - 1 refuses though ?
A team plans to warm up in T-shirts that offer memory to a club disaster in which spectators died but the goalie refuses ?
If people don't want to wear one that's fine by me. They're free to choose want they want to do and need to stand by their conscience.
That's the whole point for me.
I don't want some prick wearing one to "look cool" or make some sort of statement as, to me, that devalues the whole thing.
I agree. I give thanks for the freedom that those brave men and women who have fought and died to maintain. The minute you start forcing people to do things surely you undermine that very freedom that we this weekend of all should be thankful for. I wear a poppy today because I choose to, because I have that freedom to decide I want to.
..... Just to note that Ross County up in Scotland decided not to have a minutes silence or indeed wear poppies for yesterday's game, no prizes for guessing who the visiting side were.......
How about if a club arranged to wear "kick it out" shirts but a couple of players won't ?
Or if they were all going to the local mosque's youth football team to encourage integration but half the team would not do it ?
What if there was a planned club trip to the blood donor office to encourage people to attend but the 3 star players' religious beliefs would not allow the idea of blood transfution so they refused ?
A club wants players to wear gay-rainbow colours on the back of their shorts because a local (gay) business man has sponsored them - 1 refuses though ?
A team plans to warm up in T-shirts that offer memory to a club disaster in which spectators died but the goalie refuses ?
In each of those situations it would be the individuals choice and even though I disagree with them I thank God I live in a country where they have the right to choose.
What's the alternative ? Forcing them to give blood or they can't play ? What if they wanted to vote for a political party you disagreed with ? Where does the restriction of what somebody else should believe end ?
How about if a club arranged to wear "kick it out" shirts but a couple of players won't ?
Or if they were all going to the local mosque's youth football team to encourage integration but half the team would not do it ?
What if there was a planned club trip to the blood donor office to encourage people to attend but the 3 star players' religious beliefs would not allow the idea of blood transfution so they refused ?
A club wants players to wear gay-rainbow colours on the back of their shorts because a local (gay) business man has sponsored them - 1 refuses though ?
A team plans to warm up in T-shirts that offer memory to a club disaster in which spectators died but the goalie refuses ?
In each of those situations it would be the individuals choice and even though I disagree with them I thank God I live in a country where they have the right to choose.
What's the alternative ? Forcing them to give blood or they can't play ? What if they wanted to vote for a political party you disagreed with ? Where does the restriction of what somebody else should believe end ?
So you'd have no problem what so ever with a Charlton player voting for the BNP then?
How about if a club arranged to wear "kick it out" shirts but a couple of players won't ?
Or if they were all going to the local mosque's youth football team to encourage integration but half the team would not do it ?
What if there was a planned club trip to the blood donor office to encourage people to attend but the 3 star players' religious beliefs would not allow the idea of blood transfution so they refused ?
A club wants players to wear gay-rainbow colours on the back of their shorts because a local (gay) business man has sponsored them - 1 refuses though ?
A team plans to warm up in T-shirts that offer memory to a club disaster in which spectators died but the goalie refuses ?
In each of those situations it would be the individuals choice and even though I disagree with them I thank God I live in a country where they have the right to choose.
What's the alternative ? Forcing them to give blood or they can't play ? What if they wanted to vote for a political party you disagreed with ? Where does the restriction of what somebody else should believe end ?
So you'd have no problem what so ever with a Charlton player voting for the BNP then?
I would certainly think less of them for supporting such a racist right wing party but as far as I'm aware he has every right to do so and I wouldn't wish for that right to stop. Would I cheer when he scored a goal ? Yes.
How about if a club arranged to wear "kick it out" shirts but a couple of players won't ?
Or if they were all going to the local mosque's youth football team to encourage integration but half the team would not do it ?
What if there was a planned club trip to the blood donor office to encourage people to attend but the 3 star players' religious beliefs would not allow the idea of blood transfution so they refused ?
A club wants players to wear gay-rainbow colours on the back of their shorts because a local (gay) business man has sponsored them - 1 refuses though ?
A team plans to warm up in T-shirts that offer memory to a club disaster in which spectators died but the goalie refuses ?
In each of those situations it would be the individuals choice and even though I disagree with them I thank God I live in a country where they have the right to choose.
What's the alternative ? Forcing them to give blood or they can't play ? What if they wanted to vote for a political party you disagreed with ? Where does the restriction of what somebody else should believe end ?
So you'd have no problem what so ever with a Charlton player voting for the BNP then?
But that's not the question is it ? The question is not whether I have a "problem" with it, that's my prerogative, my choice, my freedom. But my "problem" shouldn't infringe upon his freedom.
This hypothetical chap is at liberty to vote however he wants, wear a poppy if he likes, give blood when he chooses and wear a kick racism out t-shirt if he fancies. And hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of British men and women gave their lives so he can do all of those things, whether he acknowledges it or not.
How about if a club arranged to wear "kick it out" shirts but a couple of players won't ?
Or if they were all going to the local mosque's youth football team to encourage integration but half the team would not do it ?
What if there was a planned club trip to the blood donor office to encourage people to attend but the 3 star players' religious beliefs would not allow the idea of blood transfution so they refused ?
A club wants players to wear gay-rainbow colours on the back of their shorts because a local (gay) business man has sponsored them - 1 refuses though ?
A team plans to warm up in T-shirts that offer memory to a club disaster in which spectators died but the goalie refuses ?
In each of those situations it would be the individuals choice and even though I disagree with them I thank God I live in a country where they have the right to choose.
What's the alternative ? Forcing them to give blood or they can't play ? What if they wanted to vote for a political party you disagreed with ? Where does the restriction of what somebody else should believe end ?
So you'd have no problem what so ever with a Charlton player voting for the BNP then?
I thought Di Canio was great for us despite his penchant for Mussolini and Italian Fascism. It didn't sit easily though.
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Or if they were all going to the local mosque's youth football team to encourage integration but half the team would not do it ?
What if there was a planned club trip to the blood donor office to encourage people to attend but the 3 star players' religious beliefs would not allow the idea of blood transfution so they refused ?
A club wants players to wear gay-rainbow colours on the back of their shorts because a local (gay) business man has sponsored them - 1 refuses though ?
A team plans to warm up in T-shirts that offer memory to a club disaster in which spectators died but the goalie refuses ?
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Can u imagine the uproar if someone did not support kick it out
What's the alternative ? Forcing them to give blood or they can't play ? What if they wanted to vote for a political party you disagreed with ? Where does the restriction of what somebody else should believe end ?
This hypothetical chap is at liberty to vote however he wants, wear a poppy if he likes, give blood when he chooses and wear a kick racism out t-shirt if he fancies. And hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of British men and women gave their lives so he can do all of those things, whether he acknowledges it or not.