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    2 hours in to the first matcg and the 3rd frame has just been completed, definatly a match for true fans, if you are only a fan of big breaks and get bored of saftey play this match is not for you.

    Question is there is still another match to be played before the semi starts at 7 tonight and if this match goes 3-3 it could still have a couple of hours left
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    Just as i put that 4th frame over in 10 minutes
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    An early surprise in the first round
    Anthony Hamilton 4-2 Ding Junhui
    Hamilton will be in tonights group final for a place in the semi finals
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    The 2nd match also didnt go as expected
    Ryan Day 4-2 Barry Hawkins

    So the group final is
    Ryan Day v Anthony Hamilton
    Winner goes into the semi final
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    Final score

    Anthony Hamilton 6-4 Ryan Day

    Anthony Hamilton is the first person in the semi finals
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    Tuesday matches

    Marco Fu v Michael White
    Shaun Murphy v Mark King

    Would expect to see White v Murphy in final but after today who knows
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    Murphy should really get through to Semi's, next couple of days are the tough ones to call. Watched alot of Ding vs Hamilton yesterday was very poor, Hawkins vs Day the opposite starting with 3 tons and good standard. Well done Hamilton.

    Ronnie has a tough draw, Robertson and then winner of Higgins / Mcgill

    Selby's is tougher, Lliang Wembo and then winner of Trump/Brecel.

    Recorded the rest of the week but might just skip if i know results or looks dull.
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    Murphy should really get through to Semi's, next couple of days are the tough ones to call. Watched alot of Ding vs Hamilton yesterday was very poor, Hawkins vs Day the opposite starting with 3 tons and good standard. Well done Hamilton.

    Ronnie has a tough draw, Robertson and then winner of Higgins / Mcgill

    Selby's is tougher, Lliang Wembo and then winner of Trump/Brecel.

    Recorded the rest of the week but might just skip if i know results or looks dull.

    Murphy should win i agree but his last couple of months have been not his greatest a few shock defeats losing to players like
    Slessor in indian open
    Wells in first round of world open
    Yuan Sijun in Shanghai Masters qualifier
    Ursenbacher in english open

    Then was very dissapointig in losing 6-2 to carter last week.

    His game isnt were he wants it at the moment and think King actually has a chance

    Personally i think White will.be the player who gets through today
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    I think it could be anyone really , but i'd say personally Murphy is on the best form of any of them. Even with losing some he shouldn't, Fu if he is on form will be tough to beat, likewise Michael White.

    I think Murphy has a very good chance today, others similar its short format best of 7 for first match so more chance there of Murphy getting beaten.
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    Michael White 4-3 Marco Fu

    A very topsy turvy first match of the day goes the way of White

    4th match of the tournement and all 4 have been won by the lower ranked player

    Can King keep it up or can Murphy finally end the bad run for higher ranked players
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    Shaun murphh 4-2 Mark King

    As predicted last night tonights group final is

    White v Murphy
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    Shaun Murphy 6-4 Michael White

    Murphy into saturdays semi final against tge winner of tomorrow's group
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    Mark Selby 4-3 Liang Wenbo

    Luca Brecel 4-0 Judd Trump
    Poor performance from Trump there

    Mark Selby v Luca Brecel in group final

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    Luca Brecel 6-4 Mark Selby

    Shaun Murphy v Luca Brecel in saturdays semi final
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    Not updated this as i kept forgetting so quick round up

    Ronnie O'Sulivan beat Neil Robertson
    John Higgins beat Anthony McGill

    Ronnie O'Sullivan beat John Higgins and faced Anthony Hamilton in fridays Semi

    Ronnie O'Sullivan 6-2 Anthony Hamilton(Hamilton was 2-0 ahead)

    So Ronnie is in tomorrows final against the winner of Murphy or Brecel
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    Shaun Murphy 6-4 Luca Brecel
    Just like the other semi this had a good comeback Murphy was 3-1 and 4-2 behind

    Todays final
    Shaun Murphy v Ronnie O'Sullivan
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    Ronnies head has gone 7-4 down with his head gone its murphys to lose now
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    edited November 2017
    SHAUN MURPHY IS CHAMPION OF CHAMPIONS CHAMPION


    Shaun Murphy 10-8 Ronnie O'Sullivan

    Good comeback from Ronnie from 9-5 down but a couple of frames early in the evening session Ronnie lost his head a bit and those probably cost him
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    As is the schedule of World Snooker now
    1 tournament finished last night
    The next has just begun

    The Shanghai Masters is now underway
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    As seems to be the way now a number of qualifiers held over to main event

    Shanghai Masters Qualification Semi Finals:
    Billy Joe Castle 5-2 Zhang Jiankang
    Soheil Vahedi 5-2 Ma Chunmao
    Chen Feilong 5-3 Li Zhen

    Shanghai Masters Qualification Final:
    John Higgins 5-2 Alexander Ursenbacher
    Liang Wenbo 5-2 Rod Lawler
    Rory McLeod 5-4 Bill Joe Castle
    Soheil Vahedi 5-4 Sam Baird
    Stuart Carrington 5-3 Chen Feilong
    Mark Selby 5-2 Ian Burns

    Shanghai Masters Round 1
    Yu Delu 5-4 Ryan Day
    Jimmy Robertson 5-4 Tom Ford
    Jack Lisowski 5-1 Chris Totten
    Kurt Maflin 5-4 Lee Walker
    Mark Allen 5-1 Yan Bingtao
    Ben Woollaston 5-3 Michael Georgiou
    Dave Gilbert 5-0 Mark Joyce
    Fergal O'Brien 5-4 Mitchell Mann
    Mark Williams 5-1 Wang Yuchen
    Zhou Yuelong 5-4 Sanderson Lam
    Jamie Jones 5-2 Mark King
    Graeme Dott 5-3 Xiao Guodong
    Robert Milkins 5-4 Lyu Haotian
    Michael White 5-4 Mark Davies
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    Due to early matches i keep watching then forgetting to update this(not that anyone reads it anyway)

    Not to many shocks so far so will just go over the last 16

    Mark Allen v Jack Lisowski
    Graeme Dott v Luca Brecel
    Martin Gould v Marco Fu
    Barry Hawkins v Ronnie O'Sullivan
    John Higgins v Liang Wenbo
    Stephen Maguire v Judd Trump
    Mark Williams v Mark Selby
    Mei Xiwen v Kurt Mafflin

    Ronnie has high break with 144 so far

    Higgins close to 147 today but had an in off on the brown.

    As I have stated before Jack Lisowski starting to get to later stages of tournaments, wont be long till he wins won(maybe even this season)

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    Kurt Maflin 5-2 Mei Xiwen
    Jack Lisowski 5-4 Mark Allen
    Luca Brecel 5-4 Graeme Dott
    Judd Trump 5-0 Stephen Maguire
    John Higgins 5-2 Liang Wenbo
    Martin Gould 5-2 Marco Fu
    Ronnie O'Sullivan 5-0 Barry Hawkins
    Mark Williams 5-3 Mark Selby

    Selby out, while O'Sullivan and Trump bag whitewashes.
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    edited November 2017
    Just about to update this and seen its already been done lol

    Judd Trump has not dropped a frame this week he is playing Brecel who has only dropped 4 all of them against Dott

    Martin Gould has only dropped 2 frames
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    Quarter final is in 15 minutes

    Luca Brecel v Judd Trump
    John Higgins v Martin Gould
    Kurt Mafflin v Jack Lisowski
    Ronnie O'Sullivan v Mark Williams
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    Judd Trump 5-0 Luca Brecel

    Trump is the first man in the Semi Final and has won all 4 matches 5-0
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    Here's a genuine question or two for all you snooker (and betting) experts.

    As far as I can tell since the World Champs have been held at the Crucible (40 years this year I believe) it has been won as follows:

    Hendry 7
    Davis 6
    O'Sullivan 5
    Higgins J 4
    Selby 3
    Williams M 2

    In addition14 players have won it once.

    The correlation between the number of times won and the value of the balls is apparent and if 2018 throws up a first time winner, say Judd Trump they will match exactly and total 42.

    So my questions are; is it possible to place a bet now on a first time winner in 2018 which encompasses the pattern above, what do people think the odds would be and most importantly, am I correct?
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    JWADDICK said:

    Here's a genuine question or two for all you snooker (and betting) experts.

    As far as I can tell since the World Champs have been held at the Crucible (40 years this year I believe) it has been won as follows:

    Hendry 7
    Davis 6
    O'Sullivan 5
    Higgins J 4
    Selby 3
    Williams M 2

    In addition14 players have won it once.

    The correlation between the number of times won and the value of the balls is apparent and if 2018 throws up a first time winner, say Judd Trump they will match exactly and total 42.

    So my questions are; is it possible to place a bet now on a first time winner in 2018 which encompasses the pattern above, what do people think the odds would be and most importantly, am I correct?

    Firstly if the bet u want is any first time winner then most places would do it bit u would probably need to go into a shop or enquire online.

    On bet365 Trump is 3rd favourite ding is 4th both never won before so price you are probably looking at 7/1 maybe 8/1.

    Will it happen is a tougher question. Former chanpions O'Sullivan(although i think format is to long for him) Higgins and Williams all looking good atm.

    You can never discount Murphy, Robertson or Bingham on the big stage.
    And selby will be looking to retain for a 3rd year and his 4th in 5 years.

    Trump is playing fantastic atm on his day Ding can be unstoppable.

    So I wouldnt rule it out wouldnt be surprised to see a Trump Selby final
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    Quarter final results in full

    Judd Trump 5-0 Luca Brecel
    Jack Lisowski 5-3 Kurt Mafflin
    Ronnie O'Sullivan 5-1 Mark Williams
    John Higgins 5-1 Martin Gould

    Semi final lineup

    Judd Trump v Jack Lisowski
    Ronnie O'Sullivan v John Higgins
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    Quarter final results in full

    Judd Trump 5-0 Luca Brecel
    Jack Lisowski 5-3 Kurt Mafflin
    Ronnie O'Sullivan 5-1 Mark Williams
    John Higgins 5-1 Martin Gould

    Semi final lineup

    Judd Trump v Jack Lisowski
    Ronnie O'Sullivan v John Higgins

    When are these played Paulie?
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    edited November 2017
    Trump v Lisowski -6.00 am tomorrow
    O'Sullivan v Higgins 11.30 am tomorrow
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